. All right it looks like the interface, let's see there we go. We've got some unusual things happening here on my screen. Let's try Julie. Julie, will our technology work? Julie can you hear me? Do you have a question? Go ahead.

I was wondering what your take is. The universities opening in the fall. You were pretty early on saying watch what the other universities are doing and when they closed early you said the other universities would and they did. So I have two 20 year olds who are eager to leave my house and get back to their lives at school. Where are their schools? They are 20 years old or almost 20 and they go to the University of Connecticut.

I think there'll be probably a pretty big difference in terms of when things open based on the school and what resources they have and all that. But I do think that whatever is going to be the same thing. If some of them reopen most of them will. And I don't know if they're going to wait to see if the experience is bad at the other ones. I doubt it. I think they're just going to have to. And a pure desperation and self-defense I think they're going to have to open. Because the biggest risk to colleges is that people find out they can do without them for a year.

One of the things that Naval said recently is if we go a year, let's say this next coming year becomes more remote learning. Let's say the students don't go to school, they stay home but they do a year of school with remote learning. And what are they going to pay for that? Are they going to pay the same as they would if they were there in person? Not counting the room and board part. And what happens at the end if they get just as good at education but they did it remotely? How is the college going to justify charging the same amount next year?

Exactly. Because especially with engineering you really need the lab work. You need to be on it. You can't just learn through the computer very well. Although I think that's just because we're not good at it yet. I would argue that we will reach a point where learning it on the computer will be so much better. I mean you'll be able to have a 3D view and you'll be on your computer and when you're doing engineering you'll actually be able to reach out and touch objects that don't exist and put them together. So once you're actually manipulating a virtual space with virtual objects then the online stuff will be way better than in person. But not yet.

All right thanks. Thank you.

College is going to be just a mess. I'm so glad I'm not having to deal with that.

Joe it looks like you came back. Joe. Hey Joe. Jim do you have a question for me?

Joe. Scott. Yes do you have a question? Yes. I really enjoy your show. I really value what you do but I have to know with this ongoing coup is someone gonna get perma-banned? I gotta see somebody high level punished.

Well the problem is that the people at the high level are smart enough to not leave any bloody gloves at the scene. So what I would expect is that it's going to come down to something like well I knew the president wanted me to do this but he didn't say it. Or he didn't say it but it was obvious that this would be a good thing and he'd like it. Or Clapper didn't directly tell us to do this