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rever it needs to be. You can do the greatest job in the world and still not get close to where you need it to be. And I think that describes our situation. I do think the government probably did a great job of increasing testing. It's just hard and it takes a long time. So what would be the standard to say that they had done it well or not done it well? It's purely subjective. Should it have bee…
← Previous segment →So I would say that he is probably taking a chance. Not probably. I mean if he's not wearing a mask, it's riskier than if he were. So let's agree that that's just statistically a truth. But how much of a risk is it for any one person who is otherwise healthy? It's not the biggest risk in the world. You don't want your president to take risks, but that's not the biggest risk in the world if everybody else is being tested and he's not shaking hands anymore, that sort of stuff.
So you can see why Trump would take the chance. But you can also see why a reasonable person would say maybe you shouldn't or be a better role model or whatever. Anyway, you can see the argument.
The part I loved is that the reporters didn't have an option. The reporters, there is. So here's the visual for me. That the Trump wants the press to shut up and they get up and they've got masks literally covering their mouths. And they're mumbling. Remember, refer for. Over. I have a question. I have a question. That you have barely. Here's what my mask. But the president doesn't have a mask.
So the fact that the press was literally muzzled, and we watched it. They stood up and they were muzzled. And then the president wasn't muzzled. I just loved the visual. It was just this wonderful moment of where the president was giving a perfect visual persuasion.
Now, you know, you could argue that he ruined it by getting snippy at the end and walking off. But even at the end, by my impression during the entire press conference is that he was boring, but it's a good way. You know, every now and then you want Trump to be boring, right? Because you don't want big news on some topics. And every time he talks about the science or anything about coronavirus, in my head I'm saying no, don't do it, don't do it. Just talk about the political stuff. No, talk about the science. No, no, don't go there. Then he goes there.
But the thing I always say about Trump is that he doesn't know how to be uninteresting. I do. It's the most consistent thing you've ever seen. He can't be uninteresting. So he gives the press conference totally straightforward, didn't get too political, stuck to the facts, seemed just professional and competent. And I thought to myself, yeah, that's good. It's professional, competent, looks like he's on the ball. I'm a little bit bored. I think I'm watching an Obama press conference.
And then at the end he gets all snippy with the press. You don't need to know the details, but he, you know, made the end of it memorable, not in a good way, because he just walked away after a while. Thank you very much. He was out of there. And I thought to myself, oh, there it is. He cannot make an appearance boring. He doesn't know how to be boring. So at the end, he had been boring the entire time. He's like, well, put a little dessert on there. And now it's national news.
Let's see, let's see. We've got other stuff here. One of the most interesting elements of the fake news, and let's call this a battle between the left and the right news, is this frame: was Trump a big success or a big failure? And was Andrew Cuomo a big success or a big failure?
Well, it seems to me that both Cuomo and Trump largely followed the advice of experts for pretty much everything. Wouldn't you say? As far as we know, right? I don't think either Trump or Cuomo departed from experts. But there might be one exception for both.
So one exception, I believe at least the way it's being reported, is that Trump departed from experts when he decided to close travel from China except for U.S. citizens. And that was right. So now we agree that Trump defied what he called, he did what the experts were not telling him to do. And now we all agree that that was the right decision.
But otherwise I think he just did what the experts told him to do. Now the states are not doing what the experts told the states to do, but that's sort of on the states. So Trump was compatible with the experts except for one big call, a very big call, which he got right. Was that a fair, defied, thank you, I couldn't come up with the word, defied the experts. Is that a fair summary? Could you, do you think that even the other side would say yes, right or wrong, Trump followed the recommendation of the experts with just that one exception, closing the travel, and he got it right?
Cuomo, as far as I know, I could use a fact check on this, but I think Cuomo probably followed the experts to. The one question I have is returning people to the nursing homes, which turned out to maybe kill 5,000 people. Now, do we know? Here's the, there's a hole in the reporting. I don't know if you've noticed this, but this is very missing. Why did Cuomo, or did he even know about it? You know, did the governor himself know that patients were being returned to nursing homes? I mean, did he sign an order like that? Did he talk to somebody? Did an expert say it would be okay?
So when you're evaluating Cuomo, the part of the news that we don't have, because we don't have good reporting or I haven't seen it, maybe somebody has reported it, is was Cuomo simply following the best expert advice? What did we do with these people if that conversation even happened? Or was that a case where he violated or defied, defined, did he defy their advice? Somebody's saying yes he did, but also he signed the order to do it. People are saying in the comments.
So let's say that that's true. There's enough of you saying he signed the order. So he was aware of it. But being aware of it doesn't mean it was necessarily a mistake unless we also know that the experts told him not to do it. Someone has the order from Cuomo on his Twitter, but that wouldn't tell us if the experts had recommended it, right?
Okay, so forget about the question of whether he signed it. Let's say he did. Let's only focus on was he advised? Because it is looking like Trump got everything right, at least in terms of being compatible with the experts, whether it turns out right or not. And the one thing he wasn't, he got right: closing tra
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vel. So is Cuomo the same? I don't know. I will say this again and again and again. When we're looking back in the past in this fog of war, once we have our perfect vision of the future, you know, we'll be so smart in the future and we'll look back and say well we should have done this, we should have done that. And I'm not going to stand for any of it. Whether it's Trump's mistakes or Cuomo's mi…
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