e can tell his story at trial. Did you know that's all he's asking for? Snowden would come back and go to trial. He's not saying I need a pardon to return. He's not even asking for that, apparently. Not once. He's asked for a fair trial in which he gets to tell his story. And apparently that's not guaranteed.

Now I don't know what it means to guarantee it. I suppose you could put that in writing. I don't know what kind of guarantees the Justice Department can make that are legal. But isn't that not asking for much?

So here's my take on it. If it's true that the U.S. will not guarantee him a fair trial, meaning he's not even asking for a fair trial, he's only asking to be able to tell his story, if we can't guarantee that he has to be pardoned. He has to be. Because let me put it into a visual argument.

Let's say you are very opposed to the Snowden pardon and let's say you took all of your concerns and you translated them into a physical weight and let's say it weighed a ton. That's a lot, all right? That's how much you don't want Snowden to be pardoned. One ton.

Now let's do the same measurement on this question of how do you deal with somebody who can't get a fair trial. Well, if I were to take the fact that this person, a whistleblower, can't get a guarantee even to tell his story in public at a trial, what weight would you put on that compared to the ton of weight you put on Snowden did something bad in your opinion and should not be pardoned? That's a ton. What weight would you put on protecting the core system in the United States, that most minimal guarantee that you can get a fair trial? Well, if don't pardon him weighs a ton, my personal subjective thing is that the other thing weighs a hundred tons. Because whatever happens to one individual pales in comparison to the integrity of the system.

And if we can't guarantee an American citizen, a whistleblower specifically, a fair trial, and not even a fair trial, he's not even asking for a fair trial, he's