hing up. Right? We are way beyond the point where questioning whether coronavirus deaths are real is a rational opinion. It used to be. It used to be a rational opinion which I think time has shown us did not hold up. But you are not being rational today if you think that the issue is miscounting. We're not even close to that being a reasonable hypothesis. But it was. It was at one point. So I think you need to update your thinking on that.

Here's another one. So Ivor Cummins, who you probably see on the internet, tweets a lot about the coronavirus, tweeted a graph today that shows that Sweden's excess deaths are among the lowest in Europe. And the claim is that they did not do as aggressive a lockdown in social distancing and therefore proof positive that lockdowns and social distancing don't work according to Ivor or Evor, I don't know how to pronounce his first name, Cummins.

So I just tweeted this right before I came on live here and I asked the fact checkers to check that. Let me ask you, do you think that that's true? Do you think that when the other people comment on his tweet do you think they're going to say, "Oh yeah we checked the numbers and these look like the accurate numbers"? I would bet against that. Yeah, I'm seeing in the comments there's some disagreement about whether it's true or not.

This is the kind of statistic that is just a little suspiciously too on the nose, isn't it? I just don't believe those numbers. Now by the end of this live stream I could be changing my mind. In other words if the people I consider good at fact-checking look at this an