rtainly not giving him a total pass.

Now interestingly two left-leaning journalists did not agree with each other. So when Yamiche Alcindor, I think she's NPR, when she asked a question, embedded in the question was the assumption that or maybe accusation, depending what you want to call it, that because Biden was a nice guy and he was talking nice about immigration, that that caused more immigration. Whereas Rubin tweeted, "Yamiche makes the statement, unproven, that his words set off the surge. This is factually wrong." Now Rubin of course is not like other journalists. She is a little more of a team player than even people who are team players. But I would say that Biden and his media who are trying to say that the surge is not because of Biden, they did a good job.

Now here was the argument, if you haven't heard it. I think you've heard it. That the surge is actually no different than prior years. And then if you add the fact that the coronavirus caused what would have been a surge to not happen last year, though all you're seeing is this year's normal surge plus a little excess surge because people would have come the year before but they couldn't. So now they're just coming this year. So it's just a big year for surges but not because of anything. It just would have happened anyway for economic reasons and seasonal reasons and everything.

Now is that true? Is it true? Yeah, I'm seeing in the comments I see you saying that it's just not true, that the way they're counting it is wrong. If you talk