would help, you're really wrong. I mean, you're as wrong as the wrongest thing could ever be wrong. There is nothing less useful than one expert talking to somebody who doesn't know how to check them. And I wouldn't know what's true and what's not. So all you would know is that some expert jabbered for a while, and you wouldn't know anything.

So I could get you one expert who says there are definitely no aliens, and you would come away thinking, oh, I guess there's no aliens. Or I could get you one expert that says definitely are, and you would come away thinking there are. Would you have learned anything? No. There's nothing to learn. That system just doesn't work.

Now let me explain a system that might work. A couple of experts on both sides, unlimited time so there's no time period you have to get cut off, and a capable moderator. I can do it. But if you don't have both sides so that one can say we caught this on video, and then the other can say we studied the video and we can tell it's not real based on this or that, you've learned absolutely nothing. All you learned is one side's argument. It's nothing. Literally it's actually worse than nothing.

So let me say it as clearly as I can. Doing nothing would be better information than doing a deep dive with one expert on any topic, on any topic. You just will be misled by the one expert's opinion. And even if that expert is completely right, you don't know because there's no counterpoint. So it would be a waste of time. But I'd love to figure out how to do that right.

Yeah, Brian's saying that extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Do you know we don't have for alien visitation extraordinary proof or anything like it? In fact, we have the lowest level of evidence. There's something that we don't know what it is. That's it. There's something, and we don't know what it is.

Why do you all think you are so certain? Yeah, the more certain you are on a question like this, the less reasonable you are. Why not moderate that discussion? I would. I'm just not set up for that business model. I would need a producer and a different setup to do it right. But I'm not that far away from being able to do it.

You know, the aliens designed in the simulation. Yeah, part of my reason for thinking it's unlikely there are aliens is that the simulation seems to already be slowing down, meaning that there's too much complexity here on Earth. It feels like we see the same stuff just repeated and repeated because it's conserving resources, the simulation is. So the odds of a foreign planet being completely populated just in case we ever discover it seems very low on a system resource basis.

All right. Oh, why is Bill Gates getting such bad press? Because there's a divorce. So far with all of the Gates bad press, none of it has really landed, has it? Now if you look at the worst allegations about Bill Gates, there's the deal he had with Melinda about visiting his old girlfriend, but that was an explicit deal. So you can't really blame him for something if she agreed to it at any point. Then the other thing is you spend too much time with Epstein. But Gates says directly that he thought Epstein would be ultimately a channel to billions of dollars of charity.

Do you believe it's a reasonable assumption that Bill Gates, a reasonable person, believed that Epstein did have access to all these other billionaires and maybe could have helped him? Yes, that's completely reasonable. Now I'm not saying it's true. Who knows what's true? We don't know. But is it completely reasonable? Completely reasonable that Bill Gates would have been hanging out with somebody who could come up with billions of dollars. And probably could. He probably could. Epstein did have exactly that kind of skill and access. He had exactly that.

So yeah, so I would say that there's plenty of reason to suspect Bill Gates was up to something. But I just don't see it yet. And remember that Epstein's primary character is that he was a con man, right? So if you have the best con man in the world in Epstein, and he might have been literally one of the best con men in the world, do you think he could have conned even Bill Gates? Of course. That's how it works. And it would have been easy because Epstein did actually have all these connections to billionaires. That was true. And he was persuasive.

What was Epstein doing, Scott? Well, what Epstein was doing may not have been so awesome. Yeah, somebody's pointing out that in the news is Bill Gates and Matt Gaetz. It's just system reuse, code reuse.

I have not seen that chin thing you're talking about. When did I, Vicky says, when did I start believing in the simulation? It was sort of a gradual thing. I first heard of it from, somebody help me with the name of the philosopher who came up with it. So it wasn't me. I didn't come up with it. But as soon as you hear it, the logic of it is so compelling that if you want to be a creature of reason, it's hard to leave it. And that's why Elon Musk, yes, Nick Bostrom is where I heard it first. And it's the reason that Elon Musk is attracted to it as well. I won't name other people who are attracted to it, but a lot of smart people, a lot of smart people are attracted to it just based on the math.

All right. What is California doing about the wildfires? Nothing, you're right. Maple Bob says it's even more reasonable to assume a guy who can't get girls would hang out with a human trafficker. You know, I see what you're saying, but do you think that Bill Gates and his billions couldn't figure out how to get girls except to hang out with an accused pedophile? I don't know.

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