. So I'm with you. And as soon as I get done with this stuff, we're going to schedule a trip to the border and I'd like to see it firsthand. But we do have good reporting on it.

Compare my answer to "I haven't been to Europe either." I mean seriously, how bad a politician can you be to not be able to answer the most obvious question you'll ever be asked?

All right. Ron DeSantis continues to do almost everything right for somebody who's likely to run for president. I mean whoever is advising Ron DeSantis, assuming that this isn't him making up all of his own decisions, maybe it is, I don't know, but he really is doing one right thing after another. It's kind of crazy.

So the latest right thing he did, in terms of running for president if that's his ambition, is he's going after China from the perspective of a governor, which is really smart. Because I don't know who else has done this. Has anybody done this as directly? So he's done, I guess, he's blaming the Chinese government for the virus and the way they handled it. So that's a plus. But that you know that's a little bit more ordinary. Other people are doing that.

But then he just decided, well he just passed some laws I guess, or he's promoting a bill that would ban partnerships between the Chinese government and any educational entity in Florida. So there's something called the Confucius Institute which facilitates cultural exchanges and direct deals between foreign governments and Florida's universities and colleges. And DeSantis is saying, how about China get out of Florida?

Yes, that is the correct approach. Yes, Ron DeSantis, you are 100 on the right page here. 100. Not just politically because it's brilliant politically because it raises his stature to national leader. But it's also exactly the right thing to do. There's no, this one's not ambiguous at all. This is exactly the right thing to do.

And then also there's a second bill. So these are bills, these are not laws yet. The second bill that would make theft and trafficking of trade secrets a criminal offense under state law. They're already federally a crime, but he's tightening up and making it a state crime as well. And that of course is aimed more at China than anybody else.

So by Ron DeSantis packaging up some anti-Chinese government, really we don't want to say it's about Chinese people, we love the Chinese people not the government, it's just brilliant politically. So I'm glad that I have DeSantis to talk about because I like to talk about good and bad persuasion. And he's doing it great. Doing great.

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