essarily. So I'm not quite of that opinion yet.

My opinion is that he might have been wrong a lot like everybody. You know unfortunately this was not the kind of emergency in which we could say well the public is dumb but thank goodness we have experts. It wasn't that kind of problem. It was a problem where the experts didn't know but they were doing the best they could.

So I'm going to be consistent with what I said at the beginning of the pandemic, which is that at the end of the pandemic we're going to be blaming our leaders for making bad decisions. And I think it's a little bit harsh. You sort of have to do it anyway because people have to be accountable. But it's a little harsh because people were guessing and it was fog of war. Some were going to get it right by luck. Some were going to get it wrong by bad luck. And criticizing the people who got it wrong, I just, not much to gain from that.

All right. Somebody say he actively suppressed the lab leak theory. Well, given that we know now that there is a place on the genome where you look specifically, a place to look to see if something has been engineered, all of those opinions about it not being engineered, they had not yet looked at the place that you could look to find out if it was. How do you explain that? That we had a strong opinion about it before looking at the one thing that would actually tell us if it happ