ated people with vaccinated people or anybody else. You put unvaccinated people together, you get more virus. Now I'm not saying that that's a reason for restricting them because I'm an anti-mandate. Let me say that clearly. At this point in time with the current situation, risks and benefits, I don't see the mandate being right for America. But I don't doubt math.

If you put people without vaccinations together you're going to get more of it, more virus, than if you only put vaccinated people together. Does anybody disagree? Does anybody disagree with the math of it? Forget about what's right because you know I think we're all on the same page about no mandates probably if you're watching this. I just want to see. So has it been proven? It doesn't need to be proven. There's nothing to prove. If you put unvaccinated people in a room they have greater risk than vaccinated people. That's no question.

Is there anybody who doubts that if you had two rooms full of people, one who were all vaccinated and one of all unvaccinated, and you hadn't checked them for virus yet, so in both cases there could be a virus, right? So you've got a room of fully vaccinated people. You can still have a virus and still transmit it. And you've got one of no vaccinated people in it. You can still transmit the virus. Which one would, if you came back in a week, which one would have infected more people?

Some of you are going to say well we don't know, the data is unclear on that. And you know anybody who says data is unclear I'm already biased in your favor. But the data we have, correct or not, is that the vaccinated group would have no hospitalizations when you're done. How many would disagree with that statement? That if you had that study, you know, two rooms, one with only vaccinated and one with only unvaccinated, wouldn't it be true that if you infected both rooms and come back in a week the vaccinated people would have essentially zero hospitalizations? I don't know how much spread but zero hospitalizations. Whereas the other group would have some. Anybody disagree with that statement?

So I see people disagree and I respect the disagreement because all the information we get seems to be sketchy, right? You know as soon as you say I saw some information and therefore my opinion is final that's not very smart. We don't live in a world where I saw some reliable information and therefore I formed my opinion makes any sense anymore. It used to but now our data is so unreliable on everything that as soon as you say yeah I saw some data and therefore I made a decision I think you've departed reason. Unless you put a statistical figure on it like well 50-50 but I went this way.

So I would say that the answer is clear. You shouldn't act surprised. The answer is clear that unvaccinated people in the community are more likely to be hospitalized and that's it. So it's not really a mystery. But if you wanted to doubt that the data is accurate, well I have some sympathy for that. I have some appreciation for anybody who says every data is wrong.

Oh let me tell you what really pisses me off because I know this is in my future. So let's say any situation arises and there's going to be part of the country that says no the government is lying, right? It doesn't matter what the topic is. There's going to be some segment that says nope, government's lying, so don't believe them. Now does the government lie about every single thing? Well no, not everything. It lies a lot but not at every single thing.

So if you and I disagree about what a good prediction would look like in a given situation and let's say I say well I think the government is right this time because independent experts agree, whatever I say. Let's say I side with the government's point of view on a particular question. There will always be some people on the other side who took the other position. I hate it when that side is right. I hate it when the people who don't look at any of the data, don't look at any of the argument, they just say it's coming from the government so it's probably a lie, and then it turns out they're right. I freaking hate that. I hate that so much because it's me being wrong for the wrong reason, right? Yeah, track record, right. But I don't think the track record is like 100 lies. I don't think so. I hope not. But a lot, sure.

Malcolm Gladwell's Blink. I think that got a little debunked, that Blink concept. The vaccinated transmit as much as the unvaccinated now. Lucy. So Lucy's got a statement here that says the vaccinated transmit as much as the unvaccinated now. The official word is that that's debunked and untrue, which is different from whether it is actually untrue, right? You get that, right? But be aware what the