Back to episode — Episode 1640 Scott Adams - Joe Rogan's Video Response and How the Pandemic Changed Reality
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ain why there's so much anger out there. Well I think Pat was off by five percentage points. As I've been noting, 25 percent or so-ish people will be wrong about anything, everything. To the point where I got a tweet just before I came on, or was it maybe I saw it on a Locals comment, I'm forgetting where I saw it, that maybe it just might be part of the base rules of our reality. You know the ba…
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But let's kick this thing off now. Let's tell you how to handle the Ukraine problem. Have you ever wondered what the hell do you do when you're dealing with a dictator? Like you could never really solve a problem with a dictator, right? It's very unlikely that democracies will fight. Two democratic countries rarely get into war, right? So if there is a war it's going to be two dictators or a dictator and a democracy, etc.
So wouldn't you love it if there was some way to solve the problem that there's no way to make peace with a dictator because they kind of have to stay dictators to avoid getting killed. Am I right? It's hard to be a dictator and then just retire because whoever takes over next will kill you and wipe out your entire family.
Now what does a dictator want after a certain age? Let's say by Putin's age, what does he want? Probably something like a legacy. Probably something like keeping his genetic line safe. Do you feel that that would be a safe thing to say? At a certain age they're less about acquiring stuff and more about making sure that what they have done becomes a permanent legacy. Both to protect the people in their family after they're gone but also so their name will live on.
So how do you solve this problem of giving the dictator something that protects them in that way after they're gone but also allows you to negotiate in some productive way? So I think this is the reframe that needs to happen. We should talk to our dictators about the fact that if they keep with their current model it's inevitable that their bloodline is going to get wiped out. Meaning that whoever takes over after them is going to look for your relatives and make sure they get out of there because the relatives are the dangerous ones, right?
So how can you keep your relatives and your legacy from being erased and canceled? And here's the way to do it. Guarantee everybody who sticks within their borders as they exist today that they will be supported against all attacks forever. In other words give them job security instead of trying to depose them. It's the whole deposing them that gets the problem, right? If we're trying to depose Putin all the time, well he's going to push back like anybody's going to push back.
So can we remove the incentive for them to be hacking us and poking us back? I think we can because I'm not terribly concerned if the Russian people have a dictator. Are you? I mean really? Because I feel like maybe a lot of them prefer it. I think maybe a lot of them prefer it. It's not our problem.
So instead of trying to turn anybody into some kind of a democracy so that we can be friends, why don't we do it the Trump way? Trump goes to North Korea and says you know there's no reason we need to be enemies. How about if you want some economic development we should talk. And then Kim Jong-un is like I can't think of a reason I need to be your enemy. And then for a while everything was heading in the right direction. And the thing that Trump did was he gave Kim Jong-un job security. Think about it. That's what Trump did. He gave Kim Jong-un job security, the most he's ever had. And as soon as he had job security he got friendlier.
Now Biden comes along and no longer does Kim have a relationship that's like a personal one with the president and now suddenly he's testing a lot of rockets. It's probably not an accident.
So could we say here's the deal. As long as you stay within your international borders the entire world will make sure you don't get deposed. The entire world, China, us, we'll make sure that President Xi stays in power as long as he wants, Putin as long as you want, Kim Jong-un forever. But you have to end the poking us. In other words you can't invade your neighbors anymore and you can't cyber attack us. You can't be trying to undermine our currency and stuff like that. You're going to just have to be a productive competitor in the world and then you can have everything you want. You just can't change your national borders anymore.
Now would that work? I don't know. But what we're doing now doesn't work. Would you agree that what we're doing now doesn't work? You know we have to do the we're stronger than them. Putin only knows force. Well Putin does only know force because it's the only option. What other option has he been offered? Has he ever been offered the option you're going to be in, you're going to have the job forever just don't be so much of an asshole to us. That's it. You could be our friend. I don't care. Just don't be an asshole to us and you can have your job forever.
Now I don't know if that would work of course. And it would be different for every situation. No two situations are the same. But I can't see a reason that we are at some kind of war footing with Russia. Can you? I feel like it's an infantile position. I feel as though we lost the reason. We lost the reason. Now the reason is of course that they're going to be aggressive so we have to keep them in and they're thinking U.S. is going to be aggressive so we have to keep them in. Well what if we just weren't? There's no reason. It's just two people who are locked in this model that doesn't make sense anymore.
The last people we want to have a war with is freaking Russia. Let's have a war with any
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body else but Russia. Anybody. Literally last on my list. Of course they make it easy to gin up war because of the way they act but let's figure out a way to change their incentive. All right, that is my incredible live stream program for the day. Probably the best thing you've ever seen in your entire world. I'd like to show you one more thing to show you the machinery. Oh stupid phone. Stupid…
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