mics and he has not yet rejected them but I think it's coming. And then he and I will have a conversation about how much risk is appropriate to take on. This one I'm not going to give up on just so you know. There are lots of them that I'll say well yeah I guess the joke isn't worth the pushback. But when it's a big topic or something I think I have an important feeling about, then to their credit they'll generally take the artist's vision if you will. You know that my publishers are exceptional at knowing when to be involved and when to step back. That's really the skill of working with artists by the way.

Do you have any idea how hard it is to work with artists? Can you imagine that? Can you imagine being an editor and having to work with a bunch of cartoonists? Seriously, can you think of a harder job than that? Because we're all basically this old profession of you know which I say freely you know whatever it is that turns you into a cartoonis