a Black adult advocate for Black concerns like Ida Bae Wells or Nicole, whatever she's going by? How can you be somebody working in that space and believe that corporations don't break the law because they would be afraid of getting caught? How can you possibly think that's a thing? There's nobody who's worked at a major corporation who's unaware that they break laws routinely and are completely aware of it.

So let me tell you in case anybody's wondering how could somebody tell me this directly in a corporate world without worrying about legal ramifications and I'll explain that to you if you weren't there. It's very easy to explain. And they also asked Scott if this is true you would have sued. Do you think that's true? That if my claim had been true I would have sued. That's the obvious thing I would have done. Do you know why that never really occurred to me in any serious way? Because I don't see myself as a victim. And when I describe the events as they happen to me I don't put them in a victim frame. I simply describe them because it's important to know. It's part of the context of the whole conversation. And the Black people who are criticizing me on this they were blaming me for acting like I was a victim but that never happened. That's a complete imaginary take. There's no point where I complained. I simply described. And do you know why I don't complain? The reason I don't complain is for exactly their point. The Black critics who said I wasn't a victim were completely correct. I agree with my critics. I never felt like a victim. And do you know what I did when the first employer told me I couldn't get promoted? Do you know what I did? I just put out my resume and got a much higher paying job at another company. So did I feel like I was a victim? And do you know what happened to everybody in the company I left? Right after I left they were all fired because Wells Fargo bought that bank and then eliminated my department. They were all fired. I was the winner, right? So the reason I don't think of myself as a victim is I'm the only one who won. I got a big raise. So I go to my new job and I get put on the management track and it looks like things are good. I'm finishing up my MBA at night. I'm a superstar. I'm going to be a corporate superstar. And then they brought me in and told me directly, we can't promote you because you're a white male. Just I think it's a courtesy to let you know. Now why didn't I sue? My boss because he was a friend. And what he was doing was illegal. You know why? Your friend to go to jail? Do you? And my boss and my last job the one who also told me I couldn't be promoted was also my friend, right? I mean a boss friend, co-worker friend, right? But a friend. How many of you would put your friend in jail because they were just doing what their boss told them? In each case the bosses were not making their own decisions. They were actually apologizing for them to me. They're saying I apologize but the order has come down and I'm just enforcing it, right? I was told in private. I think it was probably my direct boss or somebody else was in the room. It might have been somebody else in the room. I can't recall. No one was going to go to jail for that. Well it would have been a legal problem. I mean they would have had to testify and blah blah blah. But when the second company told me I couldn't be promoted did I feel the victim? Well in a minor way but then I just quiet quit. I immediately quiet quit. Do you know why I quiet quit? That means you just go to work but you don't do much work because I could. I had the option. And then as I quiet quit it opened up time for me to work on other projects that had a bigger upside. And one of those projects was the Dilbert comic and it worked out. So do I feel like I was a victim? Hell no. I was a white man in America who could get a job at any corporation. I basically could work anywhere. White man in America is a pretty good deal. Have I ever said it wasn't? No it's not a victim problem. White man in America in the 80s and 90s pretty good deal. Pretty good deal. You know it was a better deal in one way, just one way, Black person in the 80s or 90s because if you had any qualifications you could get a job anywhere. Anywhere. It was the easiest thing in the world.

Now let me bring this all together. May I? And by the way I offered Ida Bae Wells, I offered her on public on Twitter. I said that I would work with her if she wanted to write a feature article to debunk me and I'll help her research it. And I said it's not about me. This was the widespread effect at the time. I was just one person. But I told her I'd work with her and help her research it and then whatever the result was, even if the result is that it was a conspiracy theory, you know what if my one situation was schooled me into thinking it was widespread and it never was? Wouldn't that be interesting? Which would be also moving the ball forward. I'd be okay with that too. It would be embarrassing for me but you know that doesn't bother me. I don't mind being embarrassed. So I'm in. So if Ida Bae Wells wants to work with me I will not only be an honest participant. I won't try to sabotage it or do anything clever. I'll actually try to get to the truth. What really happened. No matter what the truth is I'll just try to get to it because I would be fascinated. I'd love that.

But I'm going to offer this that's even better. I'm going to tell you how to bring everybody together, right? The first way to bring everybody together is to admit that this phenomenon I described is true and we could do that by researching it and find that it's true. But then you have to interpret it and that's the hard part. The proving is true would be trivial. That'd be easy. The second part is reparations. Yeah because do I not, am I not owed reparations for being discriminated against and all the white people who didn't get jobs because they're discriminating? No I'm not serious. I'm just putting that out there to be a jerk. If I felt like a victim sure but I don't. Here's where we can all come together. Strategy and education. There is one place that every person in the country agrees and only one place that I think. And that's children's education needs to be better and also adult education for job training. Doesn't everybody agree on that? That's the one place we could all come together, right? The Black population, the Republican population, absolutely same page. Now what to do about it there would be differences but why can't we come together on the fact, and I think it'd be an easy sale to say that choice and free markets make things better. But this is where I would come together. I would forget everything else for a while because if you talk about everything all the time then it's just reasons for fighting. But we can find the one place where we all agree. In my opinion systemic racism is real and a big problem and its main source is that we can't educate our children properly. So if you're already behind you have to stay behind because our system doesn't allow you to easily catch up unless you're lucky. You know I was lucky I guess. So that's what I suggest. That if we're going to find any kind of unity we do it over our children's education. That's where we can do it.

All right. Interestingly the Black people who criticize me did not think I should put any weight on my lived experience. Now it seemed to me that when we were arguing about the police brutality against Blacks that even when the statistics didn'