, not to his credit, when he was 15 years old was one of the white men, or boys I guess, who blocked the North Little Rock High School in Arkansas 65 years ago, blocked it to prevent integration of the school. So basically he was an overt racist and he was participating in an overtly racist act that was not just overtly racist. It was one of the most famous things that's happened in the United States. Now what are the odds that one of those people was going to be Jerry Jones or would go on to be somebody who's a common name?

But when he was challenged about it, I guess the photo of him there just surfaced, he hadn't mentioned it before. Then he never mentioned it, which was a good move. And I was interested in the way, because he's a very high-functioning successful entrepreneur, right? So he's somebody you'd expect to be able to handle something well. And I'll just tell you how he did handle it. You can judge whether this is handling well.

First of all, he didn't defend it. He said, well, gosh, that was 65 years ago. Now that's good framing. So the first thing he says is, gosh, that's 65 years ago. So that was actually the best way to start the conversation. Yeah, that was what, 65 years ago? Because as soon as you hear that you get a little bit more flexible, right? And then he goes on to say that it really reminds us that we've come a long way, something like that. And I thought, well, that was pretty good because he's admitting that that was not the way to be and that we've come a long way and he's glad that we have. But he's not running away from the fact that 65 years ago he was that kid, which on some weird level I appreciate. I don't know why. I mean, I'm not agreeing with a 15-year-old kid. I'm saying that I appreciate he just owned it. He just owned it. Yep, I did that. Wish I hadn't done that. Now he stopped short of saying, you know, I'm sorry I wish I hadn't done it, but it was sort of there. Like the way that he dealt with it, the implication was that was some other guy. I'm not, I don't even need to talk about it. And I do. I'm very much on board with not having to explain what you did when you were 15.

I couldn't do it. Could you? Could you defend your 15-year-old self? I couldn't do it. But I'll tell you the way I would have handled it. I don't know if it's better, but let's say I got accused of some heinous activity when I was 15. And then somebody says, explain it today. Here's how I would explain it. You know, I don't like that guy either. That 15-year-old who did that thing, I hate that guy. That's it. I agree with you. Yeah, I don't like him any more than you do. But I'm not going to defend him. I'm not going to defend somebody. I'm not. I'll defend who I am today, but if you want me to defend my 15-year-old self, no, I'm on your side. I don't like that guy.

And I would go further. And here's the high ground. Here's how you high-ground that. You say, I'll tell you