main thing you should not say in that situation which is somebody else should have won this award. Right? Would you agree that whatever else it was and you'll have lots of descriptions of how bad it was would you agree that he shouldn't have said it? Can you all give me that it was something that very specifically you should not have said even if he believed it you shouldn't say it out loud in public? Yeah so that happened.

Do you know what Ye was criticized for when he was just doing music? Do you remember what the biggest criticism of Ye was when he was just the artist doing music? Anybody remember? Because it's weird that you forgot. His songs were insanely misogynistic said his critics. Insanely misogynistic. Now who thinks that in the last 20 years you could be a public personality and talk about women and you could get away with it? So he said a lot of the stuff you're not supposed to say about women right. So he did that. And really like who goes after women like and just insults them and makes money on it? Well rappers. So he comes from a world in which saying the thing you're not supposed to say is exactly your job right.

Do you think rappers say what is socially acceptable? I feel like the essence of rap is saying things that would be uncomfortable for the people in charge. Things about women, things about their feelings about police, maybe praising bad behavior, illegal behavior that sort of thing. So rap by its nature is artists who are saying the most dangerous things that you're specifically not supposed to say right. So that's part of the context.

Well let's move on. Do you remember of course you do when Ye said he likes Trump. Wasn't that the one thing that a black man couldn't say in public at the time without huge consequences? It was. It was like the most dangerous thing a black man could say and he said it over and over again.

Do you remember when Ye went on I forget which show you'll tell me which show because I'm blanking and he said that slavery the history of slavery he said there were so many more slaves than there were masters at the time. He said that slavery looks like a choice. Remember what happened when he said slavery looks like a choice? He basically insulted all of Black America and much of White America and everybody else who might be supportive and he said the worst thing you could say about Black America. Like I don't think you could have said a worse thing about Black Americans. And did he say I'm only talking about some black people when he said that? When he was being misogynistic did he say whoa whoa whoa hold on no I'm not talking about women. I'm not talking about you know to use his word I'm talking about some individual women who have behaviors I don't like. Did he ever clarify that? I don't think so.

When he talked about black people must have treated it like a choice to slavery did he say some of those black people must have treated it like a choice? He didn't. He treated it like black people are like a group that act together. Very offensive wouldn't you say? Very offensive. Yeah it was the worst thing you could say in that situation.

When Ye made a turn toward being super religious and suddenly he wasn't that edgy rapper he was the super religious guy did it ever occur to you that that was like the most dangerous thing that Ye could do? One of the most dangerous things you could have done say two years ago was to come out as super Christian and conservative, family conservative religious. It was just about the most dangerous thing you could say in public if you think about it right. Especially from where he was coming from. Most dangerous thing you could say.

When he wore the White Lives Matter shirt with Candace Owens wasn't that the worst thing you could say in public about that time? It was the most controversial worst thing you could say. Yeah. Now did he say that some white lives matter and some do not? I don't remember. I think he treated white people like they were like one unit but we're not right. We're not one unit. There must be some white people that don't matter you know like serial killers and stuff but yet he treated us all like we're just one unit. Very unfair.

So he's treated women as if they're like one thing. Very offensive. Treated white people like one unit. Treated black people like they're one group. And then he got to the Jews are trying to stop him from being successful. Wow third rail. It's the worst thing you could say in public and expect to get away with it right. The worst thing you could say and he treated all Jews like it's like one group of people when in fact we knew that just some specific individuals he had a problem with. Very unacceptable treating an entire group as if they're one thing.

And then he took it up a level. He said I see good things about Hitler. Well that's something you can't say. What is the worst thing you could say? The one thing nobody can say in public. Hitler has some good sides. You can't say that. It's the thing you can't say even with free speech you can't say that. Foreign. And then he teamed up with Nick Fuentes and said you know Nick's great. Oh you can't do that. You c