ns. I don't think he really hopes that Trump gets indicted and arrested and I don't think we want to drop the facade of democracy. But it does look like that might happen and I don't know that it's bad. So I'm going to agree with Tim on the optimism that if Trump gets arrested it might be bad for Trump, he might have a bad day, but I do think it will galvanize the country and make it clear that we don't live in a non-rigged system.

What do I think about Trump and Ramaswamy as a ticket? A bad idea which will never happen because Ramaswamy is too strong to be a vice president. You don't want your vice president to be somebody that the public says, "You know what, I see you picked that person as vice president but you know what, I think that person would be the better top of the ticket." You never ever want to have that conversation in the public. That's why you pick Mike Pence because Mike Pence just disappears next to Trump. I don't think I ever heard anybody say Pence should be president even though I have a lot of appreciation for Pence. I think he was in my opinion again the best vice president we've ever had. Gore was good in his own way. Yeah, I like Pence as a vice president. So no, Ramaswamy is