Back to episode — Episode 2351 CWSA 01/12/24
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to use it correctly. But here's my disagreement. And I explained this in a reply back to his post, so I'll just read it to you because it's so perfect. Here's how events unfolded. Experts told us the size of the initial infection mattered and that the more virus you got, the sicker you got. Do you remember that? I don't know if that was ever confirmed, by the way. It makes sense, but I don't know…
← Previous segment →ets. Almost certainly they had virus on them. So some could have been a very little amount, but some gets trapped in the mask. Does anybody disagree with the fact that if you're infected and the inside of your mask is moist, which it would be, some — but we don't know how much. It could be trivial. It could be one particle. But some is on the inside of the mask. There's no question about that, right?
Now here's what else we knew at the beginning. And I said the better analogy is a flea on a dog trying to get through a chain link fence. So if the flea is on the dog, it doesn't matter that the chain link fence has a big hole in it. The dog can't get through the hole, and the virus is on the dog. So that would be the better analogy. And the way Bret used it was correct because he made the point that it might be bigger. The hole is bigger than the virus. And I'm making another analogy which is also a correct way to use them because I'm adding that the water droplet is bigger than the hole. I'm just using a dog for my analogy. So that's the good way to use an analogy. Both of us are using it correctly.
All right. Then I would say this was my take. After we learned enough about masks, in the rarest situation it might hypothetically make a difference. Let me give you the rarest of situations. You've got to go say happy birthday to your — hold on, hold on. You got to play fair. Don't just be a reflex. You haven't even listened to what I said. The rarest of situations. You've got to go say happy birthday to your great-grandmother who's 100 years old, and she's in the nursing home. Now forget about for a moment that it would be a requirement to wear a mask. If let's say it wasn't a requirement, if you're just going to go in for a minute, you don't want to be too far away from Grandma, and you just want to get close enough that you made a human connection and then you're going to withdraw. So you're only going to be there a minute. Would a mask make a difference? Go. You're going to be there one minute. One minute only. Close to Grandma. Mask make a difference? Yes or no?
All right. Everybody who said no is wrong, and everybody who said yes is wrong. The person who said probably or maybe is correct. The person who said maybe is correct. If you said no for sure, that's completely wrong. If you said yes for sure, I think you're probably right, but nobody knows. It depends. So I would say you could construe a situation that's very artificial that in the most extreme situation you could imagine, it was the difference between the virus being enough on Grandma and not quite being enough. How often would that happen? Close to never. Close to never, right? And I'm pretty sure if you sat in a room with highly infected people for days at a time, it wouldn't matter if you had a mask on. We all agree on that, right? It wouldn't matter.
So when you look for the effect of masking in populations and you say this city had masking mandates, this one did not, how'd they do, you don't really see the benefit. Do you agree that you could imagine the scenario, very, very strange and unusual one that will never happen to you, that it would make some difference, but not in the real world? In the real world, you don't see the effect. So given that you don't see the effect, can we all agree, ladies and gentlemen, mandatory masking is evil and wrong. It's wrong-headed. It's unscientific. It's unjustified. There's no statistics. There's no data to justify mandatory masking. Thank you.
Now but I'm going to completely agree with Bret that because the
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effect of the masks isn't identifiable at a population level, it's safe enough to say they don't work. Are you okay with that? That given that we don't see it working at a population level, it's fair to say they don't work. But it's not fair to say they don't stop any virus because obviously they do. It's not fair to say that there's no situation, no matter how rare, where it could help somebody b…
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