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Speaking of golden era, Ivanka just tweeted with that phrase, the golden era, talking about potential for North Korea. And did you all watch the president visiting North Korea?

I'll tell ya, no other president is gonna be fun. I think I'm probably only going to do these Periscopes as long as Trump is president because I can't imagine trying to do this in a world with a traditional president. There just wouldn't be anything to talk about that was fun.

But let's talk about Trump. So the first thing I love about this semi-impromptu trip to North Korea is it is such a rock star move. If you say to yourself, hey, you know who does this remind you of? Does it remind you of a president? Not really. Not really. It's whatever's better than the president. It's a total rock star move.

Who else could tweet the North Korean dictator, hey, I'll meet you at the DMZ and maybe I can visit North Korea, the first president ever? And then what does Kim Jong-un do? Yeah, I'll rearrange my schedule. See you there. And they show up and, you know, they shake hands and they restart the talks.

Now I'm not going to predict that therefore everything will go well because of a handshake. But anybody who thinks this doesn't matter is just on the wrong planet. This matters. This is exactly the sort of thing that matters.

Because think about what's the biggest issue. The biggest issue for North Korea and for Kim is to stay in power, to make sure that there's no external threat. What is it that keeps him safest? It's not his nuclear weapons. The thing that keeps him safest is a personal relationship with President Xi and with Putin and with Trump.

So if he could have a reasonably good relationship with those three leaders and, you know, of course South Korea's Moon, he's safe. And so he's playing it smart. Trump is playing it smart.

And does it really matter that North Korea has some nukes right now? Could you in your wildest imagination imagine North Korea now moving against the United States in some military or provocative way? You can't imagine it, right? It's actually literally now something that you can't imagine. It's only been what, a year or so since Trump's been making progress.

So I would say that Trump is just nailing this.

Now there's something else happening that is more interesting than it looks. Apparently Trump has floated the idea that the US and Russia and China could save a lot of money if they agree to some kind of nuclear missile proliferation thing to replace these START agreements. And I think China, you mentioned, is not interested because it thinks the United States won't keep its deal.

But here's the thing. I've been talking about this for a long time and I'll say it again because the more I say it, the closer we get to this being our reality. The most natural allies for the United States are Russia and China. Now here I'm counting Europe and NATO as sort of part of the United States, you know, the sphere of military influence.

But in general the powers that have the most power also have the most responsibility. It just sort of works automatically that way. We three military powers, including NATO as the U.S. sphere of influence, have all the military power in the world. Probably, I don't know, 95 percent of all the military power is those three big countries.

There just isn't any reason that the three of us should be building weapons to aim at each other. It's the one thing we know we don't want to do. In fact if you were to make a list, make a list of all the things your country wants to do, where would attacking a superpower be on your list of things you want to do? Nowhere. It's not on the list.

Nowhere on your list of things you want to do is attack a superpower. They don't want to attack us. We don't want to attack them. It's suicide. We all know it. Yet we sort of weirdly like zombies were acting like that's not the case. Must build bigger weapons. Must aim weapons at Russia. Must aim weapons at China.

Never made sense. Well it probably did make sense, you know, in the 50s. Probably made total sense in the sixties. Probably made sense because you didn't know what was going on. Dangerous world. But in today's world, a world of Putin and Xi and Trump, those three people get along and the countries get along too.

Do any of you have a problem with Russian people or Chinese citizens? Do any of you have a problem with them? No, of course not.

So we should be taking that three-part conversation about missiles and stuff and we should just throw North Korea into the mix. Because in order, North Korea should be the Switzerland of the East. And the only way that that's going to happen is if the three big powers and South Korea of course, and maybe Japan, throw Japan in there just for good measure. But mostly China, Russia, and the United States need to simply agree that we won't mess with North Korea.

And I think that would be the key to denuclearizing. I think that would be the key. Because I think you want North Korea to think that if one of the three turns against it, it has the last two as friends, which would be enough, right? If China turned against North Korea but China was our friend and friends with South Korea, well China would think twice, right? Because you know they may want to influence North Korea but on the other hand they might want a stable situation.

China, you know, Russia doesn't have any reason to move against North Korea. The US doesn't have any reason. So why don't we just make a deal? North Korea is Switzerland and the three of us will protect North Korea against any one of the three getting aggressive. I think that could work.

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All right. Did you see that the new press secretary Stephanie Grisham apparently got bruised in what was called an all-out brawl with North Korean security? I guess because when the president was there she was trying to clear a path for the United States media to get a good video. And I guess North Korean officials or security were in the way so she went in hard. So she goes in hard, apparently g…

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