ves an answer you go, oh yeah that's true. But Oprah gets involved in a way that was awkward frankly and then when she talks people go I'm not so sure. I think you might be lying.

But I'm going to give you some recreational speculation on this story. So I don't know anything about the details so this is just speculation and it's just based on how the real world works and it's based on the fact that in the real world people can be kind of shitty. I don't know if you've noticed but people can be kind of shitty.

So here's what I think might have happened and I think this strongly enough that if I had to bet on it I would actually place a bet on this. It's not 100% because it's just speculation but I'd bet on it. And here's the bet. That Oprah of course makes money that flows through her production company which is why people say you did get paid you just did through your production company you liar. But I would further assume that the production company does more than just handle Oprah's appearances because it's a production company. They probably do a wider variety of things which means that whoever is in charge of the production company probably have their own financial incentives. In other words they would be judged by how well they support Oprah but they would also be judged by their other lines of business within the production domain and their salary probably would depend on how well they do outside of pure Oprah business.

So now if that's true and I don't know that that's true but it seems like a normal thing, you'd expect that the production company has expanded to handle other operations. That's why that'd be one good reason for having a production company. Now if this production company was smart but kind of shitty and they start negotiating with the Harris campaign, what's the first thing the production company's going to figure out? They're going to figure out they're dealing with amateurs. They're not dealing with really good negotiators and they're not dealing with business people. They're dealing with youngish often campaign people who are just so excited that Oprah might consider coming. So they say what's it going to cost to get Oprah here? And the production company said well you know it's a big operation. We got to, you know when Oprah travels it's really expensive but we think we can do this for 2.5 million.

And then you could imagine the Harris campaign saying all right, all right that's worth it because 2.5 million to get Oprah that would be a market price because the other performers were in that low million dollar range too. So you could imagine that. And I'm speaking as the creator of the Dilbert cartoon. You could imagine that the production company knew that Oprah wasn't going to take money for it so they got to keep anything that they could negotiate. So they would sort of leave the impression that the 2.5 million since it was going to Oprah's production company was sort of Oprah's money, you know minus the expenses. But if the production company didn't say that directly and they just said this is what it's going to cost to get Oprah here. We can put it in writing. Oprah will be here. We'll do the production. You'