FOs. But in addition to the drones there are also sightings of other kinds of crafts. And Nancy Mace described it as there are two shapes that can't be explained. I think they mean the Tic Tac and the orb but I'm not positive. So you know the things that look sort of like drones, I think everybody's decided that they're either ours or some kind of hobbyist or maybe an adversary but they're not from outer space. But the orbs, the alleged round shiny things, sometimes they're metal, sometimes they seem like clear with something in the middle, and maybe the Tic Tac but I don't know for sure. Just Nancy Mace says some of the shapes are not explained.

And then on top of that there's a story today about an ex-NASA commander, commander meaning of a space shuttle, so he's been a commander of space shuttles, and he now flies his own private small plane. And he was flying his private small plane and says that two shiny metallic-looking orbs flew past him at a high rate. And the orbs were not spotted on any radar, including I think he had some radar, I'm not sure, or at least the ground radar didn't measure it.

Now given that there are widespread reports of orbs, round things that can't be explained, and the reports are that... I'm just laughing at what you're all capital but "Scott CO2 is plant food." I know what you're doing David, I get it. That's what I call the NPC response.

So now we've got a highly credible NASA commander who said he saw it very clearly but only for maybe less than a second because it was zipping. There were two of them I guess. They were zipping past his airplane. Do you think it's more likely, given the context of all the orbs which apparently have been sighted according to people who say they saw them, do you think it's likely that the orbs are real or that, let's say this ex-NASA commander, we'll just pick him as my example, or do you think it's an optical illusion or some other kind of cognitive effect where he thought he saw something but he didn't really see it?

Now in the context of lots of people talking about orbs and UFOs, what would you expect would be the number of reports of orbs? They should go way up. Will they go up because people now know what they'