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d really except the most partisan. So be aware of that. Don't let them make you think past the sale. Trump humorously announced the appointment of Morgan Ortagus as a deputy special presidential envoy. And in his announcement he made it clear that, quote, early on Morgan fought me for three years but hopefully has learned her lesson. So I wasn't aware of this but I guess Morgan Ortagus at one poi…

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s and Amazon says wait a minute this was real, you took down a real one, it's just your competitor, well then I should be removed from the system forever, right? I should never be allowed to sell on Amazon if even once I report my competitor when in fact the competitor is doing nothing wrong. So I would put the ability to take down a copyright or just other violation, I would put that on the vendor. And then you could say all Amazon is doing is following instructions. They're not part of the wholesale destruction of America.

Now there were a number of other things that Mark suggested. They're all worth seeing if you want to check it out on X.

Here's an update on the terrorists. Boy did this get — I don't want to say fun because these are horrible events and people lost their lives — but well you'll see. Here's what we know. So as of today, and I'm going to tell you what the official story is, I'm still open to every other theory of what's really happening. So if you think you know the FBI is really behind it or whatever it is you think, I'm okay with that. I'm not going to rule it out. But I do think the official story to me is sounding like it all works. To me there's nothing missing in the official story so far that tells me oh this is an outside plot. But let's talk about those things. See if you disagree.

So some of the things we know is Christopher Wray, head of the FBI, he warned us months ago that there would be lone wolves inspired by ISIS. And it turns out that as far as the FBI can tell the New Orleans guy was a lone wolf and there's no indication yet that he was somehow directly an ISIS fighter or something. He just seems inspired by. Now so far there's no real mystery there. Wray told us what would happen. It looks like it happened. It's exactly like he called it. It's inspired by, not planned by.

But there are coincidences such as they seem to have spent time at the same base, army base, but they weren't there at the same time. And it's such a big army base that something like one third of all soldiers go through it. So there really is no coincidence to the base thing. It just means they were both in the military. Now is somebody who is in the military more likely to stage a violent attack? I would think so. If you've ever been involved in violently attacking people I feel like it would be an easier transition to violently attack some more people if that's what your philosophy said you do. So I don't think it's a big coincidence they're both military. So was Timothy McVeigh. I don't think it's a coincidence they were at the same base.

And I also don't think it was a coincidence that it happened on the same day because if you did a survey and you said all right if you were a terrorist and you were looking for a big crowd to take out and you wanted to get a lot of attention where everybody's paying attention, what day of the year would you pick? I think you'd find I know 40% of the people who answered the question would say well the cameras are rolling and everybody's watching on New Year's Eve and you know that's the first day of 2025 and we plan to kick things up in 2025. So the one guaranteed time that it's going to work is the first day. And I will go further and say if you had planned a 2025 attack or maybe you were just trying to avoid Christmas it could be that they both would have done it whenever they were ready but they didn't want to ruin Christmas because literally I think they both had families. They didn't want to ruin Christmas. So there's nothing really too coincidental about January 1st.

If it had been a random day like March 13th, a random day, well that would be a big coincidence. But January 1 is probably the most likely day anybody would have picked if they had bad intentions and wanted a big crowd and a lot of attention. So no real coincidence there. And also the use of the same rental company as Tyrus pointed out on The Five the other day. And I told you I think I'm the first one to point it out. You could fact check me on this but I think I'm the first one in the country to say that's not a coincidence. They're probably less monitored by authorities. So if you want to get a big truck and you're in the military and maybe you said some things online about ISIS, probably if you go to Hertz or Avis Homeland Security is already in the back door and probably they hear about you in the truck immediately. I'm guessing. And by the way I'd be disappointed if that's not true. Can you imagine if the CIA doesn't have access to the rental companies so they can tell who's getting the panel truck and also has some issues with their online accounts? They better be looking for that. You know if they're in all of our other stuff and we've lost our privacy, if they're not looking for the rental companies as the first place to look for trouble, they're not doing their job. They need to be looking at that. So I assume they are. And I assume that if you planned something that required a truck you would use an app because it's less likely that anybody's in it. And the automobiles in this case are private people's cars. So the app hooks you up with a private person who has a car that they want to rent and you just pick it up wherever you meet that private person. So none of those strike me as coincidences.

Then there's also the issue of — okay so in my view the Las Vegas guy was a mental case. But I know you're going to point out but wait Scott he's a patsy you know he's made to look like a mental case but really he was set up. Now the evidence from being set up, I haven't seen evidence he was set up. You can't rule it out, right? Can't rule it out. But why would the CIA want to do the worst or somebody else? Why would anybody want to do the most pathetic attack involving a Cybertruck that's the wrong tool and fireworks that are the wrong tool and it didn't hurt anybody? And the Las Vegas Trump Tower is not even owned by Trump as far as I know. I think that's a licensed property. I don't think Trump owns that. By the way I could take a fact check on that but I don't think he even owns the building. I think it's a licensed property.

So here's the — then other things that are suspicious is that he loved Tesla and he loved Trump because he loved the Cybertruck. He was bragging to his girlfriend about it. Now do people try to hook up with a girlfriend and call them and say the Cybertruck is awesome and say they're going to Mexico and then all of a sudden they kill themselves in Vegas? Well here's what I think. I think he was heading to Vegas not Mexico. At the very least he was going through Vegas to get to Mexico because he stopped accidentally it looks like at a place called Las Vegas, New Mexico. Like he just told his truck to drive there and then he didn't realize that he was on the wrong route and then he went to the real Las Vegas. So there's two points that say he was really trying to go to Las Vegas because he did it twice, once the wrong Las Vegas. So he at least wanted to go to Las Vegas anyway.

And then allegedly used a .50 caliber gun to kill himself which left no dental records. Is that what happened? Did he shoot himself with such an aggressive weapon that his teeth were destroyed? I just saw an indication of that but that doesn't exactly make sense to me because I thought the wound was on the top of his head. I don't know. So I don't understand the dental records part. Maybe you can fill me in. But if you were mentally ill and planning to kill yourself would you try to hook up with your ex before you died? Because that's being treated as suspicious. You know if you're bent on dying are you going to try to hook up with your ex? Well let me answer this as a male. Yes, yes you would absolutely try to hook up with your ex before you died if you're healthy and you're male and you're horny. Why wouldn't you? So that's not weird. That's what a mentally ill guy would do as long as he was also healthy and he had the knowledge to create a better bomb. But you just used fireworks and gasoline which doesn't look like a professional act.

However, a fellow named Sam Shoemate was on the Shawn Ryan podcast and I think I got this right. So Sam Shoemate runs an account where people give him tips on stuff, a lot of military stuff because his background is military. And he was apparently contacted ahead of the event but he didn't know the event was coming. And allegedly the Las Vegas terrorist wrote to him and told him that he was trying to get attention for the fact that the drones over New Jersey are really exotic gravitic propulsion devices that only China and the United States have. And China now has it. And these super flying saucer drones are coming from offshore from Chinese vessels and that's what's over New Jersey. And they have unlimited power and they can destroy the entire East Coast or any part of it without being harmed because they're magical technology. And that it's game over and China has complete control over destroying the country. And he wanted to use fireworks so that it made a big show of things but clearly wasn't trying to destroy the building.

So does that make sense? Does that sound real to you? Well I definitely don't believe there's any such thing as gravitic propulsion devices. Somebody said are you kidding Scott? Here's the patent. So there's going on the internet there's a patent for something like the gravitic propulsion device. I don't believe that's a real patent. You just have to look at it and say all right if you know a little bit about patents you know that you're not going to get a patent unless it's either already built and you could demonstrate that it works or it's something that a person who is skilled in the field could build somewhat easily. So you don't have to have a prototype if what you're describing is something that anybody could build if they were in that field. I don't see a way you could get exotic propulsion device patented unless you could show you could build it or that somebody who knew this field could build it. And there's nothing like that.

So now I'm not going to do the research to find out that that's a fake patent page. It's clearly fake. And even if it did get patented which I suppose is possible it's not real. Couldn't possibly be real. So I'm not buying that.

Laura Logan was pointing out that the email is filled with media talking points and smacks of a staged coverup. Well that's true. It did seem to be that he had a lot of QAnon-like talking points so that we could get the public talking about gravitic propulsion devices in China instead of maybe something else we should be paying attention to. You know we're always worried about the distractions.

Erica, our New Jersey journalist, independent journalist at least in this case, says the drones are still out in New Jersey. So they were quiet over the holidays but the photograph that Erica just included in the Locals feed — you can't see it if you're not on Locals — showed clearly an aircraft because it's got the aircraft lights. So that would suggest it's at least legally operating.

Scott you should see the anti-gravity patents. You don't have to build it to get a patent. No I just said that you don't have to build it to get a patent as long as it's obvious that somebody in that field could build it. That's the part that's not real. If somebody in that field could build it somebody would have already built one. You'd be riding in it right now. It couldn't possibly be real anyway.

And I guess he repeatedly talked about making it to Mexico which does not track with the fact that he presumably had plans to end himself before he got to Mexico. But I wonder if maybe the plan shifted. It could be that maybe he thought I'll just blow up this car and then escape to Mexico. That wouldn't make sense because he wouldn't have a vehicle. So we don't know the Mexico part. And as Laura Logan points out that would kind of suggest that he was set up. She also points out that there were two paper letters that survived the fire and explosion of the car. However I don't think that's unusual because the vehicle was not completely destroyed, right? So depending on where the letters were, let's say if they were in the glove compartment, would they have been burned up? I don't know. So yes it's a head scratcher how two pieces of paper could survive a car fire but it's not impossible because the Cybertruck had good walls of protection.

And then there's also the claim from NBC News that he used an exotic explosive compound. Wait is this the same guy? No this is the other guy. So the New Orleans guy used exotic compounds that makes it look like hey where did he learn that? But I keep conflating the two attacks but that's a separate one anyway.

Here's my take so far. I'll give you my tentative take. The coincidences are largely explained away by ordinary life. They don't seem to be coordinated with each other. One of them appears to have been mentally ill from PTSD. That seems pretty well likely. And the other one seems inspired by ISIS but not maybe part of a larger wave of attacks.

So remember when every one of us were so sure when the attacks happened that this is the beginning of al Qaeda's wave of attacks because we saw Shawn Ryan interview Sarah Adams which by the way because we live in a simulation is the name of my old cat. I had a cat named Sarah who I called Sarah Adams. So but they're different people. This is actually a human. So the human has high credibility. People are saying very high credibility. I've confirmed that her credibility is impeccable because it turns out she follows me on X and I'm like that's really all you need to know. That's impeccable logic. And she's definitely on the right path anyway.

So her take was that there's going to be a massive wave of attacks in the United States and we all thought that that was the beginning of it. It doesn't look like it. It looks like these were two random attacks that just naturally fell on the same day because it was a good day to attack.

So now if you're just joining the stream let me remind you I do not have certainty about any of it. I don't have certainty on any of the facts that have so far been reported and I definitely don't have a certainty that there's not some larger clever plot and he's a patsy or any of that stuff. I don't know. But so far these look like ordinary cases. Ordinary meaning somebody was inspired by ISIS. You know he had the name, he had the background. And the other one he just had PTSD and maybe he changed his plans in the middle and maybe he was half decided whether he was going to kill himself versus whether he was going to try to get away. And then maybe at the last minute he said you know I'm never going to get away with it. I might as well just do it now.

Now people asked how do you shoot yourself after the explosion because he set off the explosives but still managed to shoot himself. Like how do you get the timing right? And my answer is you just do them at the same time. I imagine the explosive took a moment to detonate. There's probably a fuse there. So he probably threw some flame back there and maybe the gun went off first and the fireworks are second. So he probably had at least one second to pull the trigger. You think if you did them simultaneously there's probably a little bit of delay before the fire turns into an explosion. Plenty of time. I don't think that's weird at all. And it's also possible — yeah no it may be that he was just going to do the gun in case he got burned and didn't die and then he thought you know I might as well just not feel any pain. So we'll see.

Joy Reid over at MSNBC and her guest Charles Blow — yeah that's his actual name — they're talking about the real danger of being a white man and they think that things are overblown because one of them was brown. But she wants to know the really big problem is young white men in America. We need to look at our domestic terrorism. Well I don't disagree that there have been white American men who did some mass shootings. That certainly happened. But I don't see it as the same level of risk because you're really assuming, you're really imagining the future if you're talking about risk. You're not talking about the past because that's done. The past it might have been true there were periods where somebody who called himself a white supremacist did mo

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re damage than a terrorist for any given six-month period or a year whatever. But there's no way these are the same level of risk. You know whatever happens from individuals is going to be one terrible act that probably had multiple deaths. But if you're being attacked with waves of attacks, you know maybe a thousand or 1,500 terrorists who were in the country who are going to die trying, that's a…

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