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So the Wall Street Journal summarized it as we just are moving back to where we were, but the deal is leaning a little bit in China's direction now. So even our hometown newspaper, the Wall Street Journal, is saying that we came out behind. What do you think? So I'd love to hear an argument where we came out ahead on anything on even one thing. Nothing on fentanyl nothing. Are we coming out ahead because we've got a little bit extra tariff on them? I don't know. It's a little unclear to me that anything happened except that China said we're not going to basically negotiate anything. That's what it looks like.
Well, I had a question this week about the Home Depot deportations. So as you know it's fairly common for illegal immigrants to stand near the Home Depot, usually on public property, but near the Home Depot, and to be available for Americans to drive up and say, "Hey, I need somebody to work for a day to help me dig a ditch or build a wall or something." And then you take a few day workers with you and you pay them cash and you're both happy.
Now I didn't understand that because I didn't understand why the Home Depot workers would be the worst first because were we not promised that the order of the deportations would be the criminals and the worst of them first. And the Home Depot employees, not employees, but the Home Depot day workers, the illegal ones, they would be maybe the opposite. They would be the ones who are trying to work, trying to claw their way into some kind of a life, but there's no really indication that they're especially criminal. So why would we reverse from the thing that I've been telling people, just calm down, don't worry, we're going to do the worst first and that we'll basically never get to the end of the worst.
So the way I rationalized that I was okay with very aggressive deportation is that I didn't think it was entirely real. Meaning I'm very much in favor of getting rid of people who were criminals and the gangs etc. But I didn't think that ICE would have enough resources to ever get to the bottom of that well. So in my view those Home Depot people and your gardener and your housekeeper, if you have a housekeeper, to me they all seem kind of safe because it would take five years to get rid of the bad people and then we'd probably have adjusted and we'd say, all right, well we thought we wanted to get rid of everyone, but it turns out maybe we're better economically to keep the people who have jobs and they're paying taxes and they've been good citizens and they've assimilated.
So while I completely understand the argument that says no, everybody has to go back, that wasn't the deal. That was the deal. The deal was there would be an order to it. And that's the deal I signed up for. Meaning when I said I support President Trump and I'm in favor of his border policies, I wasn't talking about picking up people at Home Depot. So I feel like I got stabbed in the back because I'm a public figure who has publicly supported very strongly President Trump's approach to immigration. And the worst first was very clearly a central part of that plan and that is now reversed. So I got screwed by my own side.
Do you think I can let that go? Now I understand the argument. Oh but Scott, it's really better to deport everybody who is illegal. I understand your argument, but my argument is that's not what I was promised and it's not what I put my face on and it's not what I backed. That's not what I voted for.
All right. So I feel like I got stabbed in the back by the Trump administration. And I don't know exactly how to turn that off, but at the moment I feel totally screwed because I was sort of out front saying, "Yeah, this is fine. Don't worry about it." But it's not what they promised.
Now I did a little research on why the change. As far as I can tell, the change is because the ICE couldn't get the numbers that we wanted. So if they had focused on the worst first, especially in the context of these sanctuary cities, the difficulty in getting enough people. So it looked like deportation was even working was just too high because you get caught up in the court cases and the protests and the cities would fight everything and that's where all the bad people are mostly the blue cities.
So I feel as though there was a political reason that Stephen Miller sort of pressured ICE to go after the less dangerous people. It was because of sanctuary cities. Is that your understanding that if sanctuary cities did not exist that they could do worst first all day long and they would never run out of the worst because they would go to the city, they'd say, do you have anybody in your jail who's illegal? And they'd say, oh yeah, we got five more this morning. And then ICE would say, all right, we got five more criminals. And they would send them away.
So here's my request. If the reason that Home Depot is being targeted, and I'm using Home Depot as a stand-in for just more casual deportations as opposed to going after hardened criminals, if that's the reason, then the administration needs to be saying that really loudly, separately. I understand that there's plenty of complaints about sanctuary cities and then separately there's the targeting of the Home Depot non-criminal beyond the crime of coming into the country. You need to tie those together because if the reason that the Home Depot people are getting scooped up is that ICE is unable to find anybody in the sanctuary cities, then that needs to be right at the top of the messaging. It's like that as long as we're sanctuary cities, we can't do worst first. Do you feel me? As long as there are sanctuary cities, we don't have the option of doing the worst first.
If you tell me that and then I see that some of the Home Depot people are being deported, I'm not going to love it because it's not worst first, but I'm going to at least understand it. And that's better than having a knife in your back and not understanding it. But either way, I'm getting screwed by my own side. So let me be clear about that. I don't like it. I feel like I have been personally abused by this process. I feel lied to. I feel lied to. It's sort of promises made, promises not kept. And I'm not going to ignore that. Not going to ignore that at all.
Now one of the things I love about having a Republican audience is that, as we talked about, the Democrats dislike the Republicans more than the Republicans dislike the Democrats. The Republicans are willing to listen to an argument. And so I gave you an argument. Some of you loved it and som
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e of you hated it. But you're still willing to let me talk, right? You're not hating on me. You might not like that opinion. You might disagree with it, but that doesn't make us enemies. We're still on the same side, right? So the positive message here is that you can have pretty strong disagreements, but as long as you're pro America, America first, and we're all aiming in the right direction, b…
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