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Back to episode — Episode 2880 CWSA 06/27/25

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there were an agreed upon, reasonable conclusion for Gaza, that would lead to more people joining the Abraham Accords, that'd be a big deal. So that's possible. But there's no word about hostages or where do the refugees live for the many years it would take to make Gaza livable again and do they all get to move back and who exactly is going to pay for the rebuilding of Gaza and all that. So I'm…

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more tariffs. So they do think that there are a lot of tariff deals coming.

Now, do you remember when the tariffs were first announced? This would be a good time to see who was right and who was wrong. And there were some people who said, "Oh, these threats of tariffs will never get you anything good. It will just all be bad." And by now, the stock market has fully recovered. So we're all the way back before Trump even announced the tariffs, which means the people who have the most money to invest, including the professionals, believe that the tariff thing will not be a big destructive force for the economy. They might believe it will be additive. We don't know yet, but certainly there's every reason to believe that our new trade deals will be a little better than the old ones.

So if you were one of the people like me who said, "Hold on, hold on. There is no way to know if this is good or bad, but it is certainly a smart way to negotiate." And all of this uncertainty which you think is bad. It is bad but temporarily if your objective is to get a trade deal. Maybe a little bit of uncertainty and flip-flopping and jumping back and forth and keeping your negotiating partners off balance might be exactly what Trump does for every negotiation. It might be he does it because it works.

And the persuasion reason that that would work is that if you get other people frightened that if they don't make a deal there's going to be really bad consequences, well then they're going to make a deal that they wouldn't have otherwise made. So yes, keeping all of our trading partners in a very precarious, uncertain, not sure about their own political futures because it'd be such a big deal to their country if they don't get a trade deal. That's exactly where he would want the other leaders to be. And he put them there.

And now he says that over the summer, which is about what he predicted, they'll be cleaning up these trade deals one at a time. It'll probably take longer than they want, longer than you want, but it's all doable. So it went from, oh my god, he's a crazy man who's ruining the economy. And in what, four months, it turned into, huh, well, looks like that's going to work out.

Trump is on the verge of having the best summer that any president ever had. If Trump gets the big trade deals done and he continues to be lauded for his successful conclusion to the Iran situation, if nothing else happened, that would be the best summer any president ever had, basically. And if a miracle happens and somehow we get something done with Gaza and/or Ukraine and I would bet against both of those but even if he got one of them to go the way he wants and then let's say the Abraham Accords goes to the next level that could all happen in one summer. Oh my god. Like no president's going to be able to touch that for just sheer persuasive leadership, policies, and that's not even without the big beautiful bill which is in trouble at the moment. Let's talk about that.

So remember when I've talked about the budget process in Congress I act like I don't understand it. And it's not an act. I really don't understand it. And I read the messages from Stephen Miller who's trying to explain, oh no, this is not a budget bill. It's a rescission bill. Rescission. Is that the way you say it? And they're very different. If it were a budget bill, then you would need to get I think 60 percent of the Senate to agree. And nobody believes that that's possible in today's environment. But if it's one of t

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hese weird rescission things, apparently you can cut the budget on stuff with only a 50 percent majority, you know, 51 percent. And so the entire reason that there were not a lot of DOGE cuts in this one is that the place you would do that would be in the larger one. But they did have a bunch of cuts. And now it turns out that there's something called a parliamentarian. How many of you knew that…

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