som on this podcast and when he was told that Joe Rogan had texted in a question for Shawn Ryan to ask Newsom and Newsom says, you know, just because he thinks it might be a tough question. So he uses the mother effer and then later when he was questioned about how he handled the pandemic he said everybody's a GD genius. I know some of you hated to hear the Lord's name used in vain. So I'll just say GD genius but he used the whole word. And I'm thinking to myself, were those strategic uses? Did he do what Trump would do, which was guarantee that that would be the sound bite and that you would laugh a little bit when you heard it? Not really, because I didn't laugh when I heard it. And it's not just because he's not my favorite politician or anything like that. It just wasn't funny. It wasn't strategically placed. It just looked like he's somebody who uses some foul language on a podcast. It didn't have any effect. In fact, maybe it was a little negative. I thought to myself, well why would you use those words without using them strategically? So no, you can't take people who are not known for this kind of behavior, you know, breaking the bounds of civility because that's what Trump is known for. Trump's entire persona is very linked to violating the social boundaries. So it makes sense when he does it.

We have to talk about Epstein because again, it's a summer kind of topic. But Alan Dershowitz continues to be one of the most interesting people on this topic because he was Epstein's lawyer. And he tells us he knows what names are redacted and who accused who and all that stuff. But he also says that he's sure that Epstein was not an intelligence asset for anybody because he was his lawyer. And he says if he had been an intelligence asset, the first person he would have told would be his lawyer because you would tell the lawyer so that the lawyer could negotiate a sweetheart deal.

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