oyed, I mean just legally and financially.

CNN's Van Jones had a story about Charlie Kirk that we had not heard. Apparently he and Charlie Kirk had been in a kind of a pitched battle about the question about the murder that happened on the light rail train, you know, the Ukrainian woman who was stabbed to death. And I guess Charlie said that the motive for the attack was race because the woman who got killed was white. And can somebody give me a fact check? I heard a lot of people talking about this, but I never heard the audio myself. Did he really say in a way that was captured on audio, I got that white girl? Did the killer actually use those words, I got that white girl, or was that just something that was on the internet? Because I didn't see a source for that.

All right, I'm seeing some yeses. But all right. So if you knew that that's what the killer said, would you say to yourself that's confirmation that that was a racially motivated attack? Or is it possible that that's just the way he refers to white girls because maybe he doesn't spend much time with them. So if there's a white girl in his life, does he say the white girl? Because that wouldn't be that unusual for somebody just to refer to somebody as the white girl. Unfortunately, that would be kind of normal. But in context, it does seem to me like a pretty good argument that he had some kind of racial motivation. You know, probably wasn't 100% of what was going on. Probably there was a bunch of craziness on top of that, but it seemed to be in his mind.

Anyway, so Van Jones and Charlie Kirk were having an intense back and forth that lasted a little while and they were messaging each other and the last thing that Van Jones heard from Charlie Kirk was Charlie invited him to go on his show to have a respectful conversation about crime and race. And I think Van Jones called it agree to be agreeable. And so here again in his last moments of life Charlie Kirk showed what made him Charlie Kirk. That he was having a tense disagreement with somebody very much on the other side and his solution is to be extra nice and to be extra attentive to listening to his point of view. And that's how he was going to treat that. And Van Jones, I think, got quite touched by that, which I appreciate. I appreciate his humanity there.

Starbucks apparently is having a little wave of people saying that their name is Charlie Kirk, the name that they put on the cup when your order is ready. And I guess there was one case where an individual barista said we can't do that because it's political and that caused a big brouhaha and Starbucks backed down immediately. Starbucks folded like