point about unintended consequences. And you can observe that black America is not doing as well as black America wants to. So certainly it didn't fix the problems. But again, how would you get to the next level of understanding what he meant about that and whether he had any useful suggestions? Well, how about a series of debates at colleges? Yeah, you know where that's going.

So Charlie often said he wanted a colorblind world and that's not something that goes over well if you have gigantic industries of people who need it not to be colorblind because that's where they get their advantage, their paycheck, etc. So of course that was controversial.

So I would say this. I would say that Charlie was what I call a systems guy. He didn't have all the answers. And if you asked him, Charlie, do you have all the answers? Do you think he would have said yes? Really? Do you think he would have said, oh yeah, I got all the answers. It's in the Bible or something? Probably not because part of the reason for the debate thing, I assume, is that he would learn things as well as other people. Do you believe that Charlie believed that the reason for the debates was only to win? Only to win? I doubt it. That doesn't sound like him at all. Sounds like he would be trying to persuade, of course, but he was probably learning stuff too.

Oh my god. Oh, sorry. Itchy nose.

Well, I'm going to give you my take on everything that's going wrong in the world. I'm going to make a statement and then I want you to see how many of you would disagree with this. All right.

I believe that everyone who made the same choices I made in life generally, I mean not the real specifics, but the choices would be I prioritized fitness early in my life. I prioritized educational attainment early in life and really worked at it. I was a valid Victorian. I told myself that it was up to me to make money and nobody was going to help me. And so I acquired the skills that would allow me to get the kind of life I wanted. I knew that I had to stay in a jail. I knew I needed to stay off the bad kind of drugs when I was young. I didn't do any drugs when I was a young man. And I made a whole series of choices which anybody could have made a list if you asked them what are all the things you should do to be successful. Make a list. I just checked off all the boxes. And none of that was secret. Everybody I knew at my age, every single person knew what to do to be successful. And they knew what to do not to be successful. And my family didn't have a lot of money. You know, we had enough, but we weren't well off or even middle class. I think we were lower middle class or something. But none of that stopped me from succeeding.

And here's my statement, my provocative statement. Everybody who made the choices I made did well. They didn't become cartoonists because that you