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f Israel. Okay. I call that a step in the right direction, but I do not forgive or forget the ADL because I think they put a stain on Jewish Americans. They put a stain on America and they put a stain on Israel and I don't think they have a good reason for existing at the moment. If your only point of existing is to be the moral judges and say these people are bad and these people are good, you'd…

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good for reasons. And the ADL's job is to know who's good and who's bad. Have I made my case? Nothing else to say about that.

All right. Candace Owens continues to be entertaining. Let me just say about Candace. I know she's super controversial at the moment. I don't think that anybody in the world agrees with everything she says. Would that be fair? Like, even her closest supporters probably don't agree with everything she says. So, you know, I'm no different. But I am completely biased in her favor because she is just one of the nicest, warmest people you'll ever meet in your life. You know, I had the pleasure of meeting her very briefly. You know, we didn't even chat much, but I've told this story before. We were both on a morning show. And she saw me from across the room while we were waiting for the next hit and ran over to me, opened her arms with this gigantic smile, and just laid a hug on me that I really needed at that moment. And I thought to myself, I really like you. I like her because she liked me, and she was so warm and open and embracing.

Anyway, so if something comes up that I really really don't like about her, I don't know if I'd be honest about it, honestly, because I have such a just a positive vibe. It's hard to get past that. I have the same problem with Trump, you know, having spent time with him in the Oval Office just because he wanted to chat. You walk away with such a positive feeling about the human being that you can't really fully untangle that from what you think of their opinions. It's just hard to dislike somebody you like.

Anyway, so I like Candace. She's pointing out that 48 hours before Charlie Kirk's death he was getting pressure from pro-Israel groups to be pro-Israel when at the same time apparently he had already informed just two days before he was killed he had informed allegedly now this is Candace's claim that she knows this for sure they had informed team Turning Point USA members that he had no choice but to abandon the pro-Israel cause because he was being bullied by pro-Jewish voters.

Now, apparently Candace has challenged TPUSA to deny that that happened, but be direct. Did he or did he not say he was about to abandon the pro-Israel cause? Now, if you want to turn that into a conspiracy theory, then everything turns into, you know, Israel's behind every plot and secretly they're plotting. I don't think that I would treat these two facts if they're facts. I don't think I would connect them.

So, here would be where I would disagree with Candace. You can just have two facts. It could be that they were getting some pressure. Could be that he was considering changing his approach to it. At the same time, it could be some crazy guy who just disagreed with everything he was doing and thought he was a hater, decided that was the time to take him out. So, the coincidence probably had more to do with the fact that the opportunity to get a shot from a rooftop just happened to happen around the same time that these conversations were going on.

So, I would I think it's a fair question. I think Candace deserves a direct answer because she had a very close personal relationship with Charlie Kirk. She's allowed to ask this question. Absolutely allowed to ask the question. Personally, I don't think they're connected.

Now, at the same time, let me say that I don't support Israel. I don't support Israel. The ADL is a big reason that I don't. It's not the only reason, but Israel is not my country. So, I've said this before. I have to say it every time Israel comes up. You understand that, right? Even though you've all heard this little thing, I have to say it every time. Israel is not my country. So, when I talk about them, I observe. Sometimes I predict, but I don't approve. I don't tell you my morality or ethical sense should dominate their sense of national self-interest. So if I observe them operating in what appears to be, as far as they can tell, in their self-interest, that's the end of my analysis. They're operating in their self-interest or they're not. They're operating in the United States self-interest or they'

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re not. Those things are important and I'll talk about them. But it's not up to me to say he was a good guy. I don't think there are any good guys in the Middle East. There's just power, self-interest. That's it. Anyway, apparently the Department of Homeland Security, this is also in Breitbart, Neil Munro is writing about this. They've exposed massive fraud by migrants in Minneapolis. So they did…

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