anything? Did I mention that on the All-In Pod? I saw a clip of the All-In Pod. So Elon was not only on Joe Rogan show, but he also was on the All-In Pod. One of the best pods in the whole world, as they'll tell you. But Elon was talking about some particular bureaucratic problem in some companies and he made a Dilbert reference and he said on the Dilbert scale this would be 11 out of 10.

Yeah Owen will have his Spaces. I'll mention that again. So he mentioned Dilbert on the All-In Pod. All of the All-In Pod guys know me. They either know me or I've communicated with them. I guess I've communicated with all of them one way or the other. So I love those guys. They're just the most useful. You know how I always say that the goal of life is to be useful. Not just entertaining, but to be useful. They are the most useful podcast probably in the world because you get four brilliant, oh I haven't talked to Freeberg. So I don't know him, but he seems cool. They're the most useful podcast by far because you're getting four of the smartest, plugged in, high talent stack people who know how to communicate really well and get into the cool topics and stuff. You can't beat them for being useful.