the details and evaluate the science. We don't have access to that. Wouldn't understand it anyway. So when I look at the two arguments they're both persuasive. If you look at the climate alarmist by themselves they'll say look at my graph and they'll show you a graph that shows the CO2 and they'll show you that CO2 and warming are perfectly correlated and that there's this hockey stick growth lately that shows we're all doomed. And when they talk about it it's really persuasive. And then you wait 10 minutes and separately the skeptics come on and they say no they got everything wrong. Here are all the reasons and these are perfectly credible reasons why they got it all wrong. And then they will show their chart and they'll say look at my chart. It's obvious that CO2 and warming are completely unrelated. And they'll show you a chart that's completely different from the other person. And then they'll walk away and I'll say to myself well that skeptic was 100 percent persuasive by himself as long as he's not in the same room with the climate scientist. And the climate scientist, how persuasive is he? Totally persuasive by himself as long as he's not in the room with the guy who's got the other chart.

And I'm thinking the most basic, I want to curse again because this makes me angry but I'll pull myself back. The most basic thing our government or our news people could do and neither of them are doing this for you, the most basic thing they could do is to put those two in the same room and put the camera on. That's it. Put those two in the same room and turn the camera on. Because neither the climate skeptic with his chart nor the climate alarmist with his or her chart, neither of those will pretend the other one exists. Put them in the same room, turn on the camera and say show me your chart. And they'll hold up their charts and they'll be opposites. And you say okay can you defend why your chart doesn't look like the other chart? And make them fight it out. Now you don't have to make them fight on every point right? You don't need them to argue everything about the science and everything about the measurements and everything about, you don't need to do that. They have literally two completely different charts. And here's the fun part. They both say they're from the same source data don't they? Don't the skeptics say look I'm using NOAA's own data. I'm using NASA's data. It's public data. I just put it on a chart. Look at it. You can see the CO2 and temperatures if you look historically, if you look at a long enough time frame you can tell that they're completely unrelated.

All right so why can't we put those two in the same room and turn a camera on? Why can't we do that really? It's got to be the simplest fre