posing of the waste. So okay that was just a suggestion for what a guest I guess.

All right you had a question sorry. Do you think Trump is purposely not talking about so during the general election when asked why aren't we doing something about climate change he can just go I've been trying to fix it for four years what you've been doing? Well I'll tell you what I know. I know that within the White House and certainly within the administration people are pro-nuclear and I know that Rick Perry and the Department of Energy is that the official name but he's funded through the Department of Energy new testing facilities for nuclear fuels and some I think he's also funding some carbon capture technologies etc. So within the administration they are actually doing what look like exactly the right things. I don't know if they're doing enough of it or it's big enough but they're certainly doing the right things. That's unambiguously true.

So Rick Perry's sort of nailing it over there. It's funny because Trump is president he gets all the attention but he's got some cabinet type people who are really killing it. Rick Perry is one and Health and Human Services there's another that are just really knocking the ball out of the park lately. They should get more attention.

Well Justin's out there maybe not getting a lot more inches. What's allowing them to do so well because no one's yelling that then we're saying there this that or the other.

Yeah maybe their lack of attention just was helping him. That's true.

All right so now the question is why Trump is he's I know he's mentioned nuclear but it seems like it's always at the sort of the end of a long paragraph. A nuclear power. That's your impression of it right?

Yeah he here's my hypothesis because I'd been puzzled by it myself because the day that Trump says out loud nuclear energy is the right answer with or without climate risk if he says a sentence like that the election is actually over. Let me say that as clearly as possible. If Trump ever comes out and says in clear language you know the climate risk is something that people will always disagree with but the one thing that the Democrats and the Republicans at least the ones who have looked into it because Cory Booker, Yang, Biden they're all pro-nuclear. A lot of folks are pro-nuclear. Gates, Bill Gates is. So Trump could say the one thing that we know is the smart thing to do no matter how big the risk is is we should be as aggressive with nuclear as we possibly can and look we've already started in the Department of Energy we've done these things it's the way to go will you join me and it'll take care of my problem which is keeping the economy running keeping energy costs low which is basically a raise for everybody if you lower energy costs. Every low income person gets a quality of living increase. Quality of living right?

So if the president came out and said look I'm gonna build you a world with the best technology. The current generations of nuclear power have never had a problem. We do know how to figure out how to store waste and process it etc. And we can get better at it as well. Join me in solving all of our problems. You know I'd like the economy to be humming. I'd like the low-income people to get a raise. What you'd like to have enough energy. I want clean air. I want clean water. And nuclear gives me all those things. If you're concerned also about climate risk I can solve that for you without even paying attention to it. In other words having a robust nuclear program is sort of the only way you can solve climate risk if you believe that's a real risk.

Yeah so but yeah let me just finish the thought. I don't believe that President Trump feels and this is just speculation I can't read his mind right I don't believe he feels comfortable about the topic meaning that it took me a long time to be able to summarize that complicated topic the way I just did. So I can say because I've looked into it enough you know and Mark Lynas and Michael Shellenberger have helped me a lot to understand that there are different generations of nuclear. The old stuff was dangerous but we don't make that anymore. The new stuff has never had a problem and the newer stuff the generation four stuff that's coming online can't even meltdown if it tried. If they design it the way they're hoping to. They're hoping to design it s