Back to episode — Episode 34 - Why Kanye and John Legend Are Watching Different Movies
Context —
For the record, I completely disagree with keeping the statues. The statues are not history. The statues are decorations. You would not decorate your own house in a way that offended half of the country or even 20 percent of your neighborhood. You just wouldn't do it, right? Because you'd be kind of a dick if you did that. So the statues, while I understand the argument that it's part of history…
← Previous segment →So the president is on the other side of me on this issue. He said he thinks the statues are fine, wants to keep them, doesn't think that's racist. It's just a reflection of history.
His comment that there were some fine people there, isn't it a little more likely, given the history of this president, that he wasn't well informed about who was there? If somebody told you there was a protest around Confederate statues, who would you assume was there? You would assume that there were people who say, hey, that's racist, get rid of those statues. And you'd be right. And you would assume that there would be some just ordinary Republicans who say, hey, don't change my history. I like it there. Because even though I don't like slavery, I don't like what that represents, it's just part of history. Why change the history? Those would be good people that you disagree with, right?
So the president made an assumption, or let's say under movie two scenario, he just didn't know who was there exactly. He knew that there were some racists there. He knew that there were anti-racists there. A reasonable person would have assumed, and I'm saying that because that's what I assumed. I'm pretty reasonable. I assumed that there were people there just saying that we want to keep the statue but we're not racist.
Now, it turns out that there were people like that, but there weren't many of them. So it doesn't really help the argument to say, well, there were 25 of them there, because that's not really enough to make a difference. They were there, but there weren't many of them.
So what is more likely? That a president who is competent enough to be in this position had suddenly decided, yeah, I think I'll just go full racist on TV and insult my family and all of my closest advisers and make problems with Israel? Is that likely? Does that sound like a good explanation of what happened? Compared to movie two, where the president didn't know all the facts about a situation that was still sort of evolving, and there's a little bit of a fog of war there, and he assumed the most reasonable thing.
Let me say it again. The most reasonable thing you could ever assume about Charlottesville is that there were some non-racists who just thought they would prefer keeping the statues. If you have a protest and a counter-protest of keep the statues and get rid of the statues, you're gonna attract people who just like statues and it's not a racial thing. They just like their history, even though I disagree with them.
So Charlottesville was picked up by the mainstream media, and they hammered on it forever, trying to sell you on movie one. Most people bought movie one if they were already inclined to believe it. All right, if they were inclined to believe that, movie one looked totally reasonable. They're like, yeah, I guess he just threw his entire family under the bus.
And now the time has gone by. It gets harder to explain movie one, because why is it that Netanyahu wasn't bothered by this? That's hard to explain. Why is it that his Jewish family members, his daughter, son-in-law, why haven't they quit or at least sent a tweet saying, hey, don't throw us under the bus? Maybe they wouldn't, out of loyalty or whatever, but it doesn't really fit too well versus movie two. The president, who never has a command of all the facts, once again, just like every other time, made an assumption and didn't have all the facts. How ordinary would that be? If you've seen it basically a hundred percent of the time on every single topic, he is always dealing at a sort of conceptual level, which by the way I think usually works, and he doesn't have every single detail about a complicated situation.
I'm not sure, but this would be the most typical situation. I call the Charlottesville a hoax, very similar to the Russia collusion story. Russia collusion looked really, really convincing to a lot of people for a year and a half. And now they're gonna have to grapple with the fact that nobody could find this collusion. They could find people associated with Trump who did illegal things, who lied about things, and they need to be dealt with. But the actual collusion, the very first thing, how many people believe that? Well, the people who were not inclined to believe it didn't and saw plenty of reason not to believe it. The people who were inclined to believe there's something wrong with this guy, he must be colluding, they did believe it. And we're looking at the same set of facts.
Context —
So recapping the Kanye versus John Legend. John, if you're looking at this, and somebody will probably tweet it to you, I hate to take your time, but I want to promise you that I've spent a lot of time with Trump supporters and I don't see this. I just don't see it. I believe you see it. I believe you actually see it. Well, I don't see it. And I think if you were to actually gather up some Trump s…
Next segment → →