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So the president is on the other side of me on this issue. He said he thinks the statues are fine, wants to keep them, doesn't think that's racist. It's just a reflection of history. His comment that there were some fine people there, isn't it a little more likely, given the history of this president, that he wasn't well informed about who was there? If somebody told you there was a protest aroun…
← Previous segment →So recapping the Kanye versus John Legend. John, if you're looking at this, and somebody will probably tweet it to you, I hate to take your time, but I want to promise you that I've spent a lot of time with Trump supporters and I don't see this. I just don't see it. I believe you see it. I believe you actually see it. Well, I don't see it. And I think if you were to actually gather up some Trump supporters, put them in a room, spend an hour with them, see if you can see it. Because that's not the sort of thing people can hide. You could tease that out of somebody over the course of an hour. Maybe you've got to give them a drink or something, but you're not gonna be able to miss it if you think it's there. Gather some Trump supporters. See if you can find it. A year and a half. I don't see it.
All right, I'm not a Republican. I'm not a conservative. I voted for Bernie, even though the media has labeled me as alt-right this week again. Well, here's a good example. If you're wondering how easy it is for people to be completely wrong, look how many people labeled me alt-right and a men's rights advocate this week, and also a Holocaust denier this week. Just this week. These are major publications who could have easily just googled to find out it's not true. I was also called retarded this week. Somebody has called me a former cartoonist. If you look at all the things that were just said about me this week, with all of the facts just in public to dispute it and to debunk it, we don't live in a world where the facts are guiding us these days.
So Kanye has opened a window, a door, maybe a crack in the universe. And it's gonna be hard for people to make their way to the other side of the hole, but it's happening. It's happening. You can feel it. Let me ask you this. Just say yes or no to this question. How many of you feel it? How many of you feel something really good that's about to happen? Maybe it's already happening. Say yeah. The essence, you can feel it before you can see it. You can feel it before your logic catches up to it. And that's where it all starts, right? Change starts with the feeling. It doesn't start with the facts. Because we saw the facts. The facts just don't convince people. Nobody gets talked into something by a fact. We think we do. We want to. We would like our facts to convince other people. And then we say, hey, why didn't my fact change your mind? Well, the same thing's happening the other way. They're giving you facts and it's not changing your mind either.
So why is this different? I'll tell you why this is different. Because it's not fact-based. The racial divide was always at least in large part, I'm not going to say that racism doesn't exist. I'm not going to be the guy that says we're post-racial, racism doesn't exist. Plenty of stuff to fix. Plenty of stuff to fix. But the way we're feeling about each other is a little bit ginned up. So it's a little bit a product of the election cycle we went through and top-right influencers on both sides selling a version of reality that a lot of people bought into. And they bought into it because they could feel it, right?
So the competing versions of reality were not really fact-based. They were there to take our emotions somewhere. And two paths were formed. These emotions and these emotions. What you're feeling now, and this is all Kanye and Candace, anytime I give credit to Kanye you should in your mind interpret that to include Candace Owens, who was sort of the brave voice that got things going. But the two of them have just changed how we feel. Right now, so far that hasn't spread to John Legend. It's not gonna be that dramatic. It's not like turning a switch.
But I gotta tell you, John, you look for it yourself and see if you can find where the Trump supporters, the ones you think want fewer brown people, see if you can find in any of this, Kanye, Chance the Rapper, Candace Owens, see if you can find it with any of these people, rank-and-file normal Republicans, who are saying racist things about them or indeed not totally supporting them completely. Watch how easily, how effortlessly, and more than that, watch how enthusiastically Trump Republicans are embracing Candace, Kanye, and Chance the Rapper didn't embrace Trump but he simply said hey, you don't have to be a Democrat, which felt like a civilization-changing concept. It shouldn't, but it feels like it.
So just watch. It's all real. The feelings, the good feelings that you're seeing about the folks who were breaking a hole in reality, that's real. No, that's not pretend.
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So that's what I wanted to talk about today, and I hope this helps. And for the rest of you, have a good day.
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