All right one more comment about anti-intellectualism because it's too delicious. The people who would I guess say they're pro-intellectualism, Bakari Sellers, maybe some other people on CNN, haven't they been wrong about everything for three years? Who are the people who have been right about everything for three years? The anti-intellectualism people. The Trump supporters have been largely right about everything for about three years straight. At what point do you notice? When do you notice?

So generally speaking I favor people who jump into fields that they're not experienced in and try to figure it out. So I'm very permissive and forgiving of those people because they're the ones who changed the world, right? You want the person who hasn't done it before but is a creative force of nature to get in there and shake the box and let us all watch and just see what comes out of it.

I don't think we should be against science of course but that's not what people mean I think when they say anti-intellectualism. They'd like to mean that but I don't think they do. Take for example with climate change. What do the intellectuals say about climate change? Pretty much the intellectuals say the same thing all right as a majority. The intellectuals say the same thing about climate change. It's a big problem and we better act aggressively and spend trillions of dollars.

What do the anti-intellectuals say? They say you're forgetting the costs and the benefits. If you haven't included nuclear power in the calculation you haven't really even considered the problem, right? Who is smarter in the example I just gave you? The intellectuals who completely ignore the costs and the benefits of climate science and just look at the costs and the costs are not even well calculated. They're just sort of a wild guess supported by horoscope-like models that have a big range. The anti-intellectuals are saying hey it looks like you're leaving out some big things like how much it would affect the economy, how much it would cost to remediate problems caused by climate science versus making them go away in the first place, how long it would take, the benefits of nuclear power versus the cost of nuclear power, technological innovation. Who is saying all those things? All the smart stuff is coming from the anti-intellectuals. I'm not wrong about that, Emily.

So that's the irony is that the smart people are the anti-intellectuals in so many cases. Not every case you know there's still plenty of people who believe in the flat Earth and there are plenty of people who have crazy ideas and don't trust science when they should and you know there's plenty of craziness on both sides. I'm not saying dumb people all join the same political party. That's not the case.