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he's dead. No he's not. Now here's a thing that I think Trump has figured out which is things are so absurd that mockery is the only right answer. Like defending yourself would be just stupid. You should just mock how insanely stupid it is and how they're playing you for stupid because they're really playing you for stupid. Seriously playing you for stupid. All right. There's a New York Times Si…

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Hispanics it's voters. Is that possible? Let me make a prediction. I'm going to make the most radical prediction but I'm not going to predict it as a certainty for the first time ever and only because of the special situation with Biden falling apart and the border being open under that weird special situation. Trump could win the black vote outright. I'm not going to predict that as in like a certainty but it is on the table now. At the moment it's not close. At the moment it's not close. And by the way he doesn't have any chance of winning black women so let me modify that. I believe that Trump could win black men outright. He doesn't have a chance with black women.

You're forgetting the election is already decided but let's say in the polling right. Let's just say in the polling I think you're right that the actual election is almost certainly certain to be rigged because I think they always have been. But I think the polling on Election Day could show that he's winning with black men. I feel he's one story away. You know one good narrative away. He's not there. He doesn't have a narrative that could make that happen. But you know what he does have? What does he have this time that he never had before? Yeah this time he's got a Vivek. This time he's got a Vivek and it's really sort of a messaging challenge right. So he's got the best messaging person of all time and you know we laugh about the sneakers. The sneakers is not nothing. It's not nothing. Yeah it's funny that it was so on the nose it sounds like you know trying too hard or something but somehow he pulled it off. He actually pulled it off.

And here's what I think you're missing. When Trump introduces sneakers the Democrats say ah he's pandering. Is he or is he showing he understands a segment of the world in a way that the Democrats missed? I think it shows an understanding of Black America on a level that we haven't seen. And I don't mean you know I like sneakers they like sneakers. Not that simple. I think there's a deeper thing with the status of footwear. You know I've heard other people say if you can't afford to have a mansion you know you could have a little status in your footwear or your bag. So it's something like that. Yeah and the Hillary with the hot sauce was just that felt like pandering. But there's something about Trump and the golden sneakers and the fact that they were a huge success that I'm not even sure I understand but I feel like there's something deeper than pandering that's going on there that feels like understanding some dynamic that maybe I don't understand.

Likewise when Trump says that his legal problems could help him with black voters and then the Democrats say you racist are you saying that black people are defined by the legal system? And of course it's nothing like that. It's just do you believe the system is rigged against you? If you feel like the system is just obviously right in everybody's face rigged against you you're going to have a little bit of feeling of solidarity with somebody who's also feeling the system rigged against them. Can you think of an example like that? Yeah you just saw one. I just gave you one. I just told you that my top political thing is freeing the January 6 people. Do you think I would have been there beating up a cop destroying property? Nope nope no. Am I relating to the January 6 people because hey I'm an insurrectionist and they're insurrectionists? Nope. Am I relating to them because it's obvious that they were targeted for being white mostly? Yes that's how I relate to them. I relate to them as someone who's been targeted unfairly by the system and I relate to that.

Now let's say let's change all their ethnicities. It's mostly white people in January 6 jail. Suppose they were all black. How would I feel about it then? Would I be able to relate? I'd be like ah different problem than my situation. Nope same same. If thousands of black let's say Republicans had been locked up it's still my number one topic because I would still relate to it. I would still relate to it. The color of their skin honestly I don't think I thought once until today I don't think I thought once about the fact that the January 6ers were mostly white. They're not all white. They're not all white but mostly. It just wasn't the point of comparison. The point of comparison is living in a country where that can happen. I don't want it to happen to them. I don't want it to happen to anybody black ever and I don't want it to happen to me. So that's my point. If it ever came down to like a physical revolution I want on my side the people who think like me. I don't need on my side the people who look like me. I want them to think like me. Right then you're on my team you know when things get dangerous.

All right. So here's another thing we could mock. So the Biden administration is limiting the natural gas production I guess in this country but not so much the drilling of the oil which is interesting. I don't know how they explain it but the idea is that natural gas you could find some substitutes say the green people but then the lesser green people say gas is cleaner than whatever else you're using at the moment so why wouldn't you use the cleaner alternative? Well it turns out that that analysis is not very straightforward because when you're looking at substitutions you can never know exactly who substitutes what for what. So it's not entirely clear that limiting natural gas even helps you for CO2 because limiting that people might substitute something worse but they also might substitute something better and it might be different in a different country right. So somebody might try harder to do solar but somebody else might just say well I better burn coal because I don't have time to build me a solar plant. So economists can't really sort this one out.

I think it's an easy one. I think you sell the natural gas until you got a better idea. To me it seems straightforward but I wou

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ld take it from let's say a pure manager perspective. You know if you knew at the moment it was better than the alternatives I'd probably do it and try to figure out something later. But here's my question. Since you cannot use math and economics to support limiting natural gas because it's a questionable proposition economically and even CO2 wise would you say that the Biden administration is fol…

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