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d to me. And the thing that makes me most suspicious is that it went from having no support to suddenly everybody loved it and it got put into a bill that you couldn't resist or at least Congress couldn't resist. That to me that just looks like our intelligence people decided it was time to make a play and they just made a play to own the thing. And remember where Constantine said hey I don't thin…

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people in similarly specious ways and what I've said is that I don't support Israel because the ADL is my enemy. And then I also say because I know how people respond that I say yes I know they don't report to Israel. Yes I know the ADL does not report to Israel but that's not my problem. Now how many of you think that what I say doesn't make sense in the comments? Does it not make sense when I say I don't support Israel because the ADL who is not funded by Israel that came after me? So does that make sense? Now remember I said that Israel doesn't own the ADL they don't control them but that's not my problem. Yeah no my problem is that a substantial entity that has offices in Israel and they say that their mission is — this is from the ADL's own words — the ADL works to support a secure Jewish and democratic state of Israel living in peace and security and for decades they've worked to secure Israel a democratic state, promote a strong and constructive US-Israel relationship. So to me that's the ADL working for Israel. Now if you say but Israel doesn't control them then I say let me introduce you to the real world. May I? If Israel kicked their ass out of Israel and said you're embarrassing us so badly that you can't have an office in Israel you're just making us look like idiots do you think the ADL could survive that? If Israel said hey just for the record we want to say this once the ADL does not represent us. They're a disreputable organization and we disavow them. Do you think the ADL could survive that? Well the management couldn't. The ADL probably could but the management couldn't. They'd have to change management. So when I say I don't support the nation of Israel because the ADL went after me does that sound crazy? It's not my problem that they don't directly pay the ADL. It's true but that's not my problem. Here's the thing. If somebody on your team who is so on your team that they've got an office in your country and their entire mission one of the top line mission statements is to make sure that that other country is doing fine they're working for the same team. And if somebody on your team is trying to destroy me which they are the ADL tried very hard then no I do not back Israel and don't ask me to. All right so I don't care if Israel fixes it but just don't ask me to help.

Now you might say to yourself Scott how much were you backing Israel before which is a good question. Do you think that there's anything I do or have done that has any impact on Israel in any meaningful way? In the comments give me your opinion. Do you think that it means anything or is it just you know talking on Twitter or X? Well here's what I think. It would depend if you thought I had some influence on the region or if you thought I was authoring the simulation it might matter. But at the moment I think that the ADL is destroying the reputation of Israel and that's not my fault. All right as long as the ADL and Israel are joined at the hip I don't support the nation of Israel. Now I'm not supporting their destruction and I'm not supporting the enemies of Israel and I wasn't donating before but I definitely don't think the United States should give them any money. Now one of the arguments I heard is that David Boaz makes this argument that if we didn't fund Israel with the requirement that they buy our weapons then Israel would create its own weapons manufacturing because of course they would need weapons and then we wouldn't have as much influence over them because they would be independently making their own weapons instead of relying on us. To which I say there's a pretty big advantage on relying on us for weapons. The biggest one is it's not easy to bomb our one factory. If Israel had some weapons making factories there would probably be two or three that if you took them out of operation they would be completely out of weapons but the United States probably is harder to get to. Meaning that if the weapons are here and we ship them to Israel it's probably a safer weapons situation. So it's a complicated situation but I don't favor any American money going to Israel as long as they have a better debt situation than we do as long as the ADL is after me. So I think Israel has to live with the bad reputation of the ADL at a time when they're getting a lot of pressure from the outside world. I do think Israel is giving up their Holocaust chip. It will never be the same after this and that doesn't mean it's the wrong choice from their perspective.

So let me give you my real opinion of the whole Hamas Gaza Israel situation. I think anybody who's picking the moral winning side is probably in some kind of a losing conversation because we first of all we don't have any influence. At least I don't. I have no influence over that. So my take is it's like gravity. My take on the region is that whoever's in charge is going to be the warden and whoever is not in charge is going to be in jail. If you were to reverse the situation the Israelis would feel like they're in jail even if it's not true and it would look like the wardens were the Palestinians. Currently it looks like Israel has the most power and whether it's an accurate statement of what's happening or not the Palestinians feel like they're in jail and the Israelis are the warden. If that's not going to change and it's not then what you're watching is just a power dynamic playing out. So to have an opinion on it feels to me like I'm holding a rock in my hand and I let go of the rock. Should I have an opinion about whether the rock will fall to Earth? I could have an opinion but it would be absurd. The only thing that makes sense is just to watch it. Just observe it because you know it's going to go and now it's gravity and has nothing to do with your opinion. So when I watch things in the Middle East I think oh I think I should add my opinion to this for what? It's just gravity. Whoever is the strongest entity is going to — it's going to feel like the weaker entity is being abused even if it's not true. And the reason is that the systems are incompatible and they can never be compatible. There is no way that those groups the Islamic population and the Jewish population are going to find a way to live together in peace with two countries next to each other. To imagine that could happen seems so disconnected from reality that these are people who by their central belief system can't possibly get along in the way that you imagine people of the same belief system could. I think we make the mistake of thinking well it can't be that different from a red and a blue state and yet we find ways to live together next to each other. No it's not like that at all. It's not even slightly like that. The American system we can disagree with each other but we know we're under the same system right? The Constitution in theory is the umbrella under which we're all arguing. So we're all trying to be the better versions of adhering to the Constitution. You maybe sometimes you want to tweak it but you're still talking about how ca

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n we be the better version of a constitutional citizenship. Nothing like that's happening over in the Middle East. In the Middle East there are two incompatible systems that can never be compatible and there's only going to be a winner and a loser and at the moment Israel has the upper hand. To have an opinion on that would be like having an opinion on gravity. It's just what it is. It's just what…

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