Back to episode — Episode 2505 CWSA 06/14/24
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is a right answer. You can't take freedom away from the woman's bodily autonomy. To which I say that's my point. You both think you have an answer and it's the right answer and it's never going to change. So when you have a situation that you can't get agreement you have to take one step back and get the thing you can get which is a credible system. A credible system would be a set of laws that wo…
← Previous segment →tion. So in other words it was a trial about election interference in which the trial about the election interference was unambiguously election interference. And I don't think anybody, I just like the way he kind of summed it up. So yes Thomas Massie being the adult in the room once again.
Meanwhile Putin has offered that he would do an immediate ceasefire with Ukraine and all he's asking is that they withdraw their troops from the four regions that Moscow annexed. I don't know how much property Ukraine has in those regions actually if it's a lot or a little I'm not sure. But they would also have to renounce plans to join NATO. What did Ukraine say about that? Of course it's a non-starter.
So here's the questions that I asked ChatGPT. Give me a fact check and see if this sounds right. In my view the United States is a pirate ship, you know a criminal enterprise and maybe always has been and that what we're trying to do is buy a country for cheap. So we've got let's just round off 200 billion so far to defend Ukraine and you know get ready to rebuild it. And I thought to myself is 200 billion cheap? Because when we're done we're going to have a controlled state and it's a big one right? The whole idea is that the reason the CIA did the thing is so we can control it. There was not a CIA-led revolution in Ukraine so that when we're done the Ukrainians could elect their own leader and have their own destiny. That didn't happen. No we just overthrew Ukraine. You all know that right? The United States just overthrew a sovereign country and we're making it look like Putin did it. Everybody knows that's what really happened right?
So the question I asked myself was if we judge us not as a country you know like a republic or all that and we're realistic and say all right if you're going to be a criminal enterprise and it looks like that's not going to change right away are you at least doing that well? Are you at least being a good criminal? And so I wondered is 200 billion a lot to spend if you ended up with a resource-rich country that we'd have bases in and we could do all kinds of stuff we can't do in America and we can threaten Russia and decrease their ability to sell their energy so we get defense benefits allegedly. And I wondered I wanted to compare it to the Louisiana Purchase you know another time when we bought some land and in today's dollars the entire Louisiana Purchase you know that center of the country would only be 3.5 billion but I wouldn't say that's a direct comparison to the 200 billion in Ukraine because you know it wasn't that populated at least with non-native Americans and it made a great deal. It was a really good deal everybody agrees.
And then I asked what was the GDP of Ukraine before the invasion. Now the current GDP of course is in the toilet but it was 200 billion. So roughly speaking very rounded numbers the amount America has put into Ukraine is equal to one year of their entire GDP which actually sounds cheap doesn't it? Is there anybody here who's good at economics? If I told you we could buy a country that had a 200 billion GDP and we'd only pay 200 billion would that be a good deal? Now of course it would take a decade to get it back to a strong GDP so you'd probably get in another 100 billion in there at least so maybe it's 300 billion or 400 billion to have complete control or functional control of a country with a 200 billion GDP and also the owner of all just immense amount of pipelines that reach into other parts of Europe. It might actually be worth it yeah. So I'm not going to say I'm in favor of what we're doing in Ukraine. That's a whole different question. But I wondered if we're at least being good criminals and there's an argument that we are. That we're good criminals. Now again I'm not praising them or saying we should be doing what we're doing. I would rather just make peace right away and get the hell out of there but the fact is that we have successfully conquered a major country. I don't think we're giving it back and it has immense strategic value as long as Putin doesn't nuke us.
But here's the conditions upon which I would agree with Putin and work on a deal and it goes like this. If they make an offer and they say we'll give you a ceasefire but you got to you know let us keep the parts we wanted which are mostly Russian speaking and mostly wanted, how could you
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make that work? Here's how I do it. If I wanted peace I would first of all say your offer is too small. I would say I don't want to have a deal just about these disputed territories and just about NATO. We need like a big forever comprehensive deal about what is Russia to the United States in the future. Are we still enemies? Because if we're not going to negotiate being enemies in general I'm not…
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