So Mulvaney did a little press thing and he got attacked for his performance but I watched it and I thought it was quite good. I thought Mulvaney should be doing more of these actually. Now the point of contention is that he said that it's normal business and you should get over it. Talking about any president negotiating any kind of quid pro quo with another country. That's exactly the right answer. Exactly the right answer is yes that's exactly what he did. He withheld some money until he got some responsiveness from Ukraine about looking into some corruption. And that corruption included some Biden stuff, some CrowdStrike stuff. So Mulvaney just says yeah we do that all the time. That's just normal business. To which I say exactly right. That is exactly the right answer. Every time you say yes we did it and it's normal, that's the strongest attack. The weakest attack is we didn't do it or it's not what you think or it's not really a quid pro quo or they didn't see it that way. Just don't say any of that. Just say exactly what you did. Yes, checking on corruption in Ukraine before we give them a massive amount of money. It is important not only for the money we're sending but to make sure we're getting what we want. We don't send the money for nothing. The whole point of sending the money is quid pro quo, right? Is there any reason we send the money other than we think it will make them flexible in dealing with us? Mostly. I mean we could say it's to defend against Russia or something but mostly we send people money because we think that'll make them flexible with us. Quid pro quo.

So I love Mulvaney just going right at it. Just looking at people and say yeah let's just get over it. That's what we do. We did it before. We do it all the time. We're gonna do it in the future. You don't want us to stop doing it? Stop talking about it. It's nothing. I love that answer.