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rest in keeping Ukraine a sovereign country. If we don't have access to your minerals, you're just an expense and you're on your own. Well, that should loosen them up a little bit, don't you think? Because I think that's exactly the situation. We're either going to turn you into a profit center or you're on your own, because we're not going to pay forever for something we don't need and don't want…

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saying that his persuasion skills are way above average. And then I'd say Bukele from El Salvador. So I put him in the third spot. But all of them are world-class persuaders, just completely in a different, they're in a level of their own.

If you look at Canada, Justin Trudeau, no skill at all. No skill. Great Britain, no skill at all. Germany, no skill at all. Yeah, but America, Putin, and Bukele, lots of skill.

And so I'll read what Trump said in his Truth post, and we'll pick it apart for the persuasion lesson. Okay, so Trump said in a Truth post, I just had a lengthy and highly productive phone call with Vladimir Putin of Russia. Number one, he's now essentially considering Putin a peer that he can work with, and they're already making success. So this is a little bit of claiming success but also a little bit of allocating success to both of them equally. This is technique. He didn't say I got something, we're going to get something. He said that the two of us working together looks like something productive is going to come out of it. Perfect. Perfect persuasion.

Then he says we discussed Ukraine, the Middle East, energy, artificial intelligence, power of the dollar, and various other subjects. Perfect. Because the way that you make an agreement that other people can't figure out how to do is you bring in other elements. Now we don't know that he's done that, but that would be the perfect technique. Oh, well, if ending the war with Ukraine, you're not quite there yet. How about if we throw in something else, something else you care about? And or the other way, we can deny you something else you care about. So you bring in these other variables that are big just to make it easier for the other side to say yes. Good technique.

If you kept the conversation to the narrow topic of Ukraine versus Russia, it might not be enough because both sides are a little stuck in their positions or have been. We'll see if they're still stuck. So that's perfect. Bring in those other topics.

Then Trump says we both reflected on the great history of our nations, in all capital letters, and the fact that we fought so successfully together in World War II, remembering that Russia lost tens of millions of people and we likewise lost so many. Now we didn't lose tens of millions, but here he is acknowledging that Russia is a great nation. That is good. That's good technique. Because what is one of the things that Putin wants to get out of all of this business? Putin wants to get out of it that Russia is a great nation. That's not the only thing, of course. They have legitimate interests. But it does seem very important to both Putin and probably Russians that they're treated with full respect.

And if you consider that Russia was a big reason that Hitler was defeated, that is worth calling out. You know, it's not like Stalin was a good guy or anything, but showing some respect for tremendous sacrifice, tremendous sacrifice on your, I don't know, your partner, I'd say in this case. I don't want to say adversary. Good technique. Perfect technique. Now he's made it easier for Putin to make a deal because he's given him one thing that he wants, which is we're going to treat you like a real leader of a real important country, and you have our full respect. It's just that there's some things we need and we're not going to back down. That is really good.

Then he says we talked about the strengths of our respective nations and the great benefit that we will someday have in working together. There it is. That's classic Trump. When Trump talks to North Korea, he doesn't say only we will bomb you to the Stone Age if you do something bad. What just happened? Holy shit, Trump just fired all federal prosecutors appointed by Biden. Holy. All of them. I don't even know the implications of that. Wow. All right, we'll catch up with that after the show.

All right, but anyway, the thing that Trump does when he negotiates with another country, he doesn't just say we're going to kill you if you do

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n't do what we want. He says if we can work together, we can both get richer. That's really strong. And I don't believe anybody has said to Russia that someday we could work together and it'll be a great benefit to both countries. Now I don't know specifically what he has in mind, but don't you think that if we were, let's say if we could find a way not to be at each other's throats, that we could…

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