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Back to episode — Episode 2781 CWSA 03/17/25

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of 10 or so — and an analysis using AI to try to find out what they had in common, which would maybe help you figure out who was after them but also to maybe predict who would be next. Here are some of the things that she found in common. So a lot of the people who got swatted engaged with Elon Musk on X. Their real-life identities were known, so they weren't pseudonyms or anything. They used the…

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you just normally see a walk away. I just don't think there will be in this case because of the equality of the two people negotiating.

Well, Putin said he wants an ironclad guarantee that Ukraine will not join NATO. Now do you remember when the head of NATO said nope, there's no chance that Ukraine is going to be part of NATO, and then you realized, okay, that was after talking to Trump. So probably Trump is the one who told NATO to say there's no way Ukraine's going to be part of it. And then you said to yourself, but wait, Trump's giving away something for nothing. Like we don't have a deal yet. Like why would he give that away? You know, wouldn't that be the thing that you would keep as your negotiating card? And then you say to yourself, is that really giving anything away? How could you ever give an ironclad guarantee that nobody will ever change their mind about Ukraine joining NATO? You can't. All it would take is somebody to say I changed my mind. That's it.

So if Trump and NATO say yep, we guarantee it, there's no way Ukraine will ever be part of NATO, what exactly are they giving up? Nothing. That's literally nothing because Putin knows they can just change their mind, and they know they could just change their mind. Now they wouldn't do it unless the situation changed, but if the situation changed, you don't think they could NATO them up in about five minutes? Yeah, if they wanted to and they had some strategic reason to do it, yes. Now I don't think they want to, and I don't think they'll have that strategic reason, but it's a weird one because the thing that Putin wants the most is the cheapest to give to him. It literally doesn't cost anything, and it doesn't even bind us because if it became an important security consideration, yeah, Ukraine would get NATO'd up in five minut

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es. So how in the world could you guarantee such a thing? Now on the other side, Putin has the same situation. We'd like him to guarantee that if we make a deal, he won't make a move on the rest of Ukraine at some later date. How in the world could that ever be guaranteed? It can't. So the two things that the sides want, the most important two things — one wants no NATO, and the other wants a gua…

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