some other people. If you're arguing morality, why there's nothing over there that has anything to do with morality or what's ethical? Because everybody has their own opinion of what's moral and ethical. So it's not really a standard that can ever work to make anything better. So why would you even talk about it? Well, we want to pretend that we're the good ones and we have better morality than other people. So that's the only reason to talk about it. If you're talking about Israel's morality, you're really just talking about yourself. All you're doing is positioning yourself as well. If I were in charge, I would be a far more moral and ethical person. And let me tell you, a lot fewer children would be getting killed. But really, that's just about you. If you need to talk about yourself, go wild. But it has nothing to do with Israel.

Israel is like every other country. They pursue what is in their best interest. Is it in their best interest to completely devastate Gaza, relocate people to other countries and then own it in the long run? Probably. I mean, you know, I can't make a prediction about that because there's so many variables over there, but yeah, probably. It probably is in their best interest. If you checked back in 20 years, would they be glad they took over Gaza? Probably. Probably.

So as long as Israel thinks it's in their best interest, that's the end of the story. Now, we might say, "But we don't like it's not in our best interest." And that would be a fair conversation and we would talk about whether we should participate in something or be part of funding it. Those are good conversations. But if you talk about whether what they're doing is good or evil, if you're comparing the number of children they killed, and the one that bothered me the most is I saw somebody arguing for proportionality. Proportionality meaning that Israel should only kill some number of people that would be the equivalent of what October 7th was. You know, however you wanted to calculate that. To which I say, where did proportionality come into anything?

When you're talking about one country pursuing its best interest, and I guess Gaza is pursuing its highest interest, neither of them are interested in proportionality. They're only interested in winning. That's all that matters. So when people say, "Scott, why do you keep supporting Israel?" I say, "When did I do that?" I mean certainly everybody understands that countries can defend themselves but that's what everybody thinks. That's not me. What I think is that if you're in the conversation about who's better or proportional or more moral, you're just in the wrong conversation. And it's really about yourself. It just isn't about Israel. Israel is going to do its thing no matter what my opinion is. Do everybody agree?

Now, I know you think that I'm highly influential, but none of you think that I'm influencing Israel policy, right? Does anybody think that? Have I even tried? I've never even tried because it's just something I observe. It's not something, you know, it's not my country. So if there's a question of whether we should be funding it or not, I'll get into that. But no, every country gets to do whatever they think is in their best interest and it will always be thus. There will be a cost to it.

I don't know if I've said this directly, but the price of permanently taking over Gaza and relocating everybody and doing what they're doing, the price of it, I think, is that they lose the Holocaust as a protective narrative. Now we don't know that. It's too soon to say, but that looks like the price. It looks like the price of owning Gaza and continuing not to have a two-country solution, which I think Israel prefers, or at least Netanyahu prefers, the price is that he's going to use the Holocaust narrative that's like Israel's greatest asset is that there's that narrative that we all understand and we've all bought into never again because that would be a pretty good thing to never again happen. But I think that they're losing that narrative because there'll be enough people who say and it doesn't matter if it's true. So don't argue with me. I'm saying what other people will say. So I'm not arguing it's true. I'm just saying that other people will say, "Well, you know, forget about your Holocaust narrative because you did this." And I think that that argument will carry some weight. So it's expensive but looks like it's happening.

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