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Back to episode — Episode 2965 CWSA 09/21/25

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okes and gags, this is from the New York Post, his jokes and gags targeted conservatives 88% of the time in 2023. So in 2023, 88% of the jabs were at conservatives. And it went to 97% this year. So 97% of all of his jabs were in one direction. Now keep in mind that the FCC allows the airwaves to be used by ABC, CBS, NBC only to the extent that they're a public good. You know, they're a benefit to…

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f he's actually a skilled cartoonist who has actually been paid for his work, and apparently he has been, then I have to default to my, how do I treat other cartoonists? And I generally go easy on other cartoonists. So I'm often asked, "Hey, do you think the guy who does Ziggy has a good cartoon?" Which of course I don't because it was terrible. But you know, I would try not to, depending on the cartoonist, I'd usually try to be kind to them. So I'll be more kind.

And are you guys watching how many people who are credible are kind of in favor of more leaning toward the free speech angle on this and making sure that people like Kimmel don't lose their jobs over some kind of bad day of speaking.

So now, as I mentioned, Ted Cruz thinks there's a free speech issue here. Ben Shapiro does. And if you know anything about those two people, could we agree that they're smarter than we are, most of us, on these topics? If the two of them are both in strong agreement that there's a free speech issue here and it would be bad for us to ignore it, I'm on that side very strongly, very strongly. But I feel the way you feel, which is Kimmel, I feel the same. But I just think from a constitutional perspective, we don't want to get over our skis too far.

Well, there's more talk that AOC is looking at running for president in 2028. How many of you remember when she burst on the scene and very early on, very early on, I said in public a number of times, you should watch out for this one because she has the game to become president. Do you remember me saying that? Now, I don't know that she does. Well, I don't know that she'll become president. So I'm not making a prediction. It's not a prediction because it depends who she runs against entirely. But could she win? Yes. Yes, she has the game. She just has that thing, you know, the charisma, the energy, probably the right kind of support, at least in a little bit of the Democratic party. She would have to move toward the middle to have any chance of winning to get all the Democrats on her side. But that seems doable. That's not impossible.

So I've been saying for a long time, you should watch out for that one. And I will double down on watch out for that one. If you think to yourself that she doesn't appeal to you and therefore she can't win, that's the Trump mistake. Now, you have to look at the skill level only. Just skill. If you only look at her skill, she's got a lot of it and she's still young, so she's probably picking up technique as she goes. She's no Trump. You know, if Trump is on a scale of 1 to 100, Trump is 100 in terms of persuasion. She's 65, which would be more than just about everybody except Trump. So yeah, she's a threat.

She is not, in my opinion, smart enough. So if I were running against her, I would try to establish that she doesn't actually understand economics. She doesn't actually have plans that work in the real world. So you would go after impracticality and inability to reason through things. That's what I'd go after.

Thomas Massie is saying on X, I told Director Kash Patel that the FBI has names of 20 men to whom Jeffrey Epstein trafficked women and girls. This basic fact seemed to surprise him. Why? That's a pretty good question. If it's true that Massie knows for sure that there are 20 names that have been trafficked to, and then Massie says, is the FBI withholding those names to protect the president's rich and powerful friends? Release the Epstein files. What the hell is going on here?

It doesn't seem likely to me that Thomas Massie would make this up. And it seems like he's smart enough that he wouldn't be

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simply wrong about it. So is this true? Is it true that Thomas Massie could write down the names of 20 people because he's seen the names? Does he know where that list is? I mean, was it in his SCIF? So he doesn't have a copy of it, but he remembers most of it. What is going on here that on one hand this would be just so terrible if this is true, on the other hand it's the only thing that would ex…

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