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you live in California you're surrounded by people of dubious citizenship all the time and you come to know them and love them and trust them and work with them. And so emotionally, personally, and in every non-rational level I'm very, very pro that population. And so I sort of stayed out of the sanctuary city conversation because it doesn't feel like a good system but the alternative isn't great…
← Previous segment →Peterson, to clarify. He had 48 hours to work out his thinking and put it out there in his clearest form. And when he did it was a lot more clear. And then I said, okay, he was thinking out loud, sort of thinking in public. Now most people should not think in public. It's probably a bad thing for most of you. But he's sort of earned the right to do that. All right, not everybody should be thinking in public. It's just a bad look for most people. But Jordan Peterson has very much earned a little bit of trust, right? Certainly 48 hours of just to say, all right, we didn't like what you said or how we interpreted it. Give us a little more on that. And then I can judge. He delivered. I looked at it. I said that's reasonable. He put it out there. We wrestled with it. Let's move on. So that's how the 48-hour rule works.
All right, what else is happening now? Somebody say he isn't really conservative politically. Doesn't matter. I hate to try to summarize somebody else's brand, you know, an individual. But I would say that Jordan Peterson is pro-science. If you're saying he is liberal or he's conservative I feel like you've missed the whole story. Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought Jordan Peterson's brand was what makes sense and what could be supported by the facts and what could be supported by the science. Now if that puts you on sometimes the right and sometimes on the left and you're arguing oh he's more lefty than you think or he's more conservative than you think, you've missed the entire point. You know, the entire point of Jordan Peterson is that he's neither of those things. The moment he's left or the moment he's right he's useless, right?
Jordan Peterson is like an international treasure because he's willing to say the hard stuff. You can disagree with him or you can agree with him but he does stick to the facts. You can't say that about him. You can't say he just ignores facts. You can't say that he doesn't respond to a better argument because I think you just watched it in this very question, in this very situation. You saw his thought patterns forming, right? That is very encouraging to watch somebody change their mind or maybe more just refine their thinking in public. Anybody who can do that is not conservative and they're not a liberal. There's someone who's following the logic. They're following the facts.
So it bothers me when I hear people say he's just revealing his secret liberal side or a secret conservative side. It's true that everybody has bias and it would be surprising if he was the one person who didn't. But he is the one person who's probably more committed than anybody I've ever seen, except maybe Dershowitz. That's a good example, for following the facts. Yeah, Dershowitz and Jordan Peterson are two people I trust to be willing to disagree with whatever group you think they're associated with if the facts of the law and the logic take them somewhere else.
Yeah, Kanye's off Twitter, somebody says sadly. Keep in mind that when you're looking at Kanye you have to think of the Trump model to understand him. Now I don't mean the Trump model in that he's going to be like Trump in all the important ways. I don't mean that. But you remember that when Trump did anything during the candidacy it was the thing that other people weren't doing and it was the thing that all the smart people said you shouldn't do. All right, so Trump did all the things that smart people said he shouldn't do and he made it work because he was doing things that worked for Trump, right? There were things that wouldn't work for Biden. They wouldn't work for Hillary. But when Trump did Trump, Trump can do Trump better than anybody's ever done Trump because he is Trump.
Kanye can do things that wouldn't work for anybody else. All right, so if you were gonna advise someone who might have their sights set on the presidency someday, you were to advise them how to go about it, you certainly wouldn't say delete your Twitter. What do you like for the average person? Because it would take a long time to build back the audience. People wouldn't bother signing back on. It's like I was just gonna quit it again. But with Kanye he lives in the state of continuous creation and you can't create without destroying. So he's a destroyer slash creator because those two things are really two sides of the same thing. It's like this yin and yang thing. Creation and destruction are inseparable.
So when Kanye destroys his social media he's also creating. You can't say that about other people. If a regular politician destroyed his social media presence by just deleting all their accounts that's all that would have happened. They would have taken an asset that was useful and they would have destroyed it and you'd say well that's kind of dumb. But Kanye is not other people. When Kanye destroys his social media presence he's, you know, his destruction is also his creation. For him they're tied because he's a creator extraordinaire. And the big group in the biggest world. I saw you probably saw the Saturday Night Live thing where after the show was closing they cut him off but he was saying some pro-Trump stuff and then I forget the first name but Davidson is the SNL actor who came on and did a skit mocking Kanye for being on the show.
Now I have two comments about that. First of all, and if anybody knows, is it Pete Davidson? Okay, thank you. So Pete Davidson, I didn't know a lot about him. I guess he is dating Ariana Grande so he's got something going for him. Well I didn't know much about him. I don't watch too much Saturday Night Live. But I have to say even though the things he was saying I completely disagreed with, he is really funny, right? You have to do a really good job in humor to make me laugh when the point of your humor is so completely objectionable to me. He's really good. So that's my first thing. Pete Davidson is a really funny guy. So he made me laugh when I shouldn't have and that was great. So credit him for extraordinary talent.
But one of the things he said is what I call loser think. Loser think. Because one word, loser think. And it's the way that unsuccessful people think. No, obviously Pete Davidson is not unsuccessful. He's closer to the definition of successful. But that idea that he put forward was this: that Kanye should stick to music. So what he said was that Kanye's a genius but that he's a musical genius and that he should stay in his lane. Would I be talking to you right now if I took that advice? All right, there are 2,000 people watching me on Periscope right now. You've seen the influence that I have on things. You've seen how it's changed you. So many of you every day somebody comes up to me and tells me how this, literally happens every day, that something I read, they something I wrote that they read, either one of my books usually "How to Fail at Almost Everything and Still Win Big," and they'll say it changed my life. I got a promotion. I got some huge success from it. None of that would happen if I stayed in my lane.
President Trump would not be the president if he stayed in his lane. Neither would he have been a golf course developer. Neither would he have been a reality TV star. Staying in your lane is just the worst advice you could ever give someone that you acknowledge to be a genius. All right, now it's one thing to say that Michael Jordan shouldn't play baseball because that's one of those situations where you can predict how that's going to go with enough certainty that you can say well you know this probably won't work out. And still keep in mind that Michael Jordan wasn't sure that he couldn't be a major league baseball player. He didn't know. He thought he could be and he came pretty close, right? So I'm still in favor of Michael Jordan having tried that move because here's what you don't tell Michael Jordan: stay in your lane.
All right, even though most of us thought it wouldn't work out and it worked out pretty well, it just didn't go all the way. You just don't tell a genius. And one thing to not try another thing because whatever made somebody successful in one thing probably has some spillover. All right, so when you say somebody is a musical genius and the knock on Kanye is that he hasn't studied his history enough, well there's something to be said for that. I'm not going to say that you know Kanye is a historian and I'm not going to say that I'm a historian either. But Kanye is approaching it from a creative place and the creativity is something we haven't seen at a level that he could provide it.
Even Trump, you know, he, Trump will get out of any box you try to put him in so he'll break every mold but he's not creative in the same way. Trump is more creative in the sense that he brings a business, persuasion, selling set of tools to a place that didn't have them or at least not to that extent. Kanye just brings a whole new thing. It's stuff you haven't seen before.
So let me put this in a little context. I have said, very unpopularly, I have said that I believed that Obama was a good fit as a president for the time he was president. So he was a calm voice at a time when we needed calmness to keep the economy from falling over the edge. Probably did the right stuff or enough of the right stuff to save the economy. So I think Obama was a good choice. It was also sort of time for a Black president in my opinion. The country sort of as one said yeah it's just time to do this. Let's check this off because we'll feel incomplete until we've had at least a Black president. It feels like you just got to get past that. So I think Obama was a really good fit for those times.
I think he would have been a bad fit if he could have done a 16-year term. I think he would have been a bad fit for a rocking economy when things are going real well. You want somebody who will take a little extra risk because you can afford a little extra risk when things are going so screamingly well. And that best fit is Trump. So I think you can have a different president for each block of time and you get one that fits.
Now let's say we get to the point where President Trump has the economy just screaming but yet we can't solve stuff like health care and you know let's say opioids are still a big problem. We still have these big problems but we don't have a money problem. Think about this. Think about how big this thought is. We're entering the point where the economy is so strong and we have so many billionaires who are willing to help that money isn't a problem for most of our big problems. It isn't. Do you know what is the problem? Do you know what's lacking? What is the thing we don't have to solve the biggest problems in this country? What do we not have? You might say well we don't have leadership, the Congress or something like that. Well we don't have a defective Congress as effective as it needs to be. But we also don't need Congress because remember I just told you we have all the money we need. There are enough billionaires who would gladly fund a good idea.
What we're missing is a good idea. And I mean that in the general sense. We need better ideas for drug addiction. We need better ideas for training. We need better ideas for school. We need better ideas for safety. We need better ideas for urban blight. You know, once it's cleared down what are you going to put there? We need better ideas for how to be better to each other. We need better ideas for reducing racism. Which of those things does Congress do? You know, does Congress come up with good ideas? That's sort of not their job. They're not the right ones.
So in the unique situation where your economy is screaming but you still can't solve your problems, what do you need? Who do you need? You need somebody like Kanye. You need somebody who's gonna say we got the money, that's great, and we couldn't do anything without it. So thank you President Obama for getting us away from the ledge and getting us a solid base. Thank you President Trump for making this economy just scream and also getting rid of most of our external threats. North Korea, you know, the other big external threats. If we're in that situation at the end of Trump's presidency where the economy is screaming and we don't have external threats like we used to, we just still have problems and we don't have ideas. What kind of a president do you need? Do you need an Obama? No, you wouldn't be the right fit. Do you need another Trump-like Trump to the whoever is the closest to Trump? Probably not. Probably not.
If everything is going well you might need somebody who can change the national mind, you know, somebody who can add diversification to the way we're thinking. So before you dismiss Kanye for not being like other presidents or like people we expect to be president, just consider that that's not what he's offering. He's offering the thing we don't have and we need. Nobody's offered that before. Who's the other politician who's offered that level of creative destruction? And remember creation and destruction, can't separate them if you do it right. And Kanye does it right. He brings the destruction along with the construction.
All right, am I predicting President Kanye West? Well the minimum requirement for predicting that would be how serious he gets. It would be hard to bet against Kanye if he was just full-on I'm gonna make this happen. There are just some people that are hard to bet against and he's one of them.
Yeah, Rand Paul. I see the name going by in the comments. Rand Paul's reputation is sky-high with me right now. So Rand Paul is on my good list by far.
I've talked about North Korea already. Oh have we? So the latest from North Korea is that apparently North Korea has agreed to work on the details of letting people come in and, well I have to show you this. So North Korea is working on the details of letting inspectors come in, which I don't know, I don't think the critics
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ever thought we would get to that point. But I want to show you a picture that I tweeted right before it was announced that good things are happening there. And I don't know how well you'll be able to see this but here's a picture of Pompeo. Oh darn it, you can only go the wrong way. So apparently I've managed to get my phone in a mode where it can only go the wrong way. Here we go. So see, look…
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