Episode 251 Scott Adams - North Korea, Climate Change, Guilty Until Innocent

hey everybody I forgot you were there come on in it's time to get your coffee some people call this delicious beverage coffee but I don't know where they grew up where I grew up it's coffee and it's delicious and it's time for all of us to enjoy a simultaneous set of the beverage of our choice doesn't have to be coffee but coffees the best join me now for the simultaneous hip ah well there was a prediction I didn't make that I should have and it goes like this all right this is what I should have said the other day I was thinking of doing it and I thought yeah I'm not sure I want to do it and here's the prediction I was going to say the president Trump is having such a good week that the anti-trump media is going to have to go back to their old bag of tricks and sure enough climate change so there's big headlines on climate change if we do not totally reverse things by 2030 there will be grievous harm to the world now I guess this news was going to happen anyway because the IPPC issued a report but it's kind of weird that the report comes out exactly at the time the Cavanaugh thing is done have you noticed the consistency of the news it you know if there's a slow news time there's always there's always a story that just plops right in now we haven't heard much about Russia do you remember Muller so I don't know whether we should worry about climate change this time or not I will tell you that the way it's presented once again is fraudulent so now I'm just talking about the way the news presents it so I'm not talking about the science so the basic science I assume if you add co2 to a closed system the temperature will go up and I would imagine that that's certain enough that we could call that science that we could call that true but the projections of course are are the hard part and with a lot of variables in play but here's the part that's completely illegitimate and every time I pointed out you should say to yourself oh my god why wasn't that obvious one before you pointed it out it goes like this the world doesn't have one decision to make climate change is not the one thing we have to figure out if you spend all of your money or some trillions of your money on climate change you won't have money for the other stuff so when they say climate change could cause us to have X amount of you know a trillion dollars of problems you have to weigh that against what else would you do with that trillion dollars would you give everybody health care would you win a war would you make sure that a comet that was heading toward the earth didn't get us would you you know would you have more defense against a pandemic would you build your borders so that you can protect their there you've got other things to do with the this money somebody called the opportunity cost that is correct so I call this a half pinion if the only thing you've looked at is the cost of doing nothing and in this case you may have looked at the benefits of doing something but you're not looking at the opportunity cost the the trillion plus dollars of things you should have been doing could have been doing would have been doing and what would what would be better would it be better to remediate to relocate people to build more more water facilities to take a trillion toys let's say you take a trillion dollars and put it into deforesting the Sahara which apparently we know how to do now believe it or not we know how to reforest deserts that's that's a real thing suppose we took our Chile and we just put it into reforesting the Sahara well I may have my science wrong but here's the general idea about using your money for other stuff alright if you were to reforest if you if you were to reforest and not De.

Forest if you were to reforest the Sahara my understanding is that it would cool down that region and that region has a lot to do with the Hurricanes that form in the Atlantic so if your problem from global warming is that too many hurricanes and that's just one of the several gigantic problems that are predicted what if you spent you know the same amount of money just getting rid of the source of the Hurricanes what would happen well I don't know but the point is that there are lots of ways to spend the money and if we don't know all of those ways and we're not at least keeping that in our mind we're only looking at half of the situation so there's that let's talk about the Democrats knew so the Democrats are trying to do two things that look like they would be hard to do to me one is they're trying to paint themselves as the the party of believing women now believing women is specifically in the context of accusations about sexual assaults now believing women is good but it sounds a lot like guilty until proven innocent or it can slide into that now if you're trying to form a party that is a coalition of women and minorities that seems to be sort of the you know the Democrats brand is they're the they're the group that's going to be good for women and minorities let me ask you this believing women which gets very close to guilty until proven innocent at least the way we think of it and treat it is that good for african-americans now it should be right you could make an argument that is just good for everybody but does it feel that way if you were black and I'm not so I don't you know it's dangerous for me to try to say how would do you think if you were something else when you're not but I'll just put it in the form of a question if you were black and your biggest issue is that the police are blaming you have stuff that maybe you think you didn't do or that you didn't do how is that compatible with changing the changing the whole thrust of the Democratic Party into guilty until proven innocent if you're black do you want to be in the guilty until proven innocent party that feels like exactly the opposite of black lives matter doesn't it doesn't it if you it feels like the Democrats have said that you know women are going to be the primary focus of their persuasion but I don't know if all of these things are completely compatible if I were black and my biggest issue where police are pulling me over accusing me of things I didn't do beating me up that feels exactly the opposite of of their thrust right now so I don't know how they hold the black vote we'll see I was amused watching the president's the president's speeches rally speech in Kansas I guess and he he tried to label the Democrats as the party of crime the party of crime which is very clever now you could certainly make an argument and they would wait a minute the Republicans are the party of crime they don't even believe us when we accuse them of committing crimes so you could make an argument the other way but it's clever it is clever branding because immigration is about crime and um being being tough on crime is the Republican thing so you could imagine that it makes sense for the press and to say that the Democrats are the party of crime I had I was saying that they were the party of hate you remember for several months I've said yeah Democrats have turning into the party of hate but that's probably not as good as a party of crime and here's why party of hate if if I told you if you hadn't been paying attention let's say for the past year and I just and all you knew was everything that's happened up until a year ago and I said hey one of the parties is called the party of hate what would you say which party would that be you might say Republicans because the Democrats would say oh the Republicans hate minorities so my framing of the Democrats as the party of hate isn't as immediately agreeable to people the way they're already primed the president went with party of crime the advantage of that is that you don't think of Republicans as being Pro crime you would never think of that because they're so they're so follow the rules they're strong on police strong on military strong on borders so clearly the Republicans are strong on crime and if anything they're the criticism should be there they're too strong against it you know that would be the criticism from the left so calling the Democrats the party of crime is actually pretty effective we'll see if it sticks it looked like he was just throwing it out there to test it see if it got picked up and I didn't see it get picked up much so it probably wasn't as sticky as as it could have been but here was my favorite part of his speech I've told you before that the president always likes to use visual language he likes to brand things and you know and he likes to say things in in provocative or interesting ways because that makes it sticky it makes it repeatable turns it into a sound bite and one of my favorite things that I think was just spontaneous but he was talking about the Democrats wanted to bring you socialism but if there's one thing I've taught you it's that talking about a concept is not very powerful so if you were to say socialism is bad capitalism is good people say yeah there's a concept I don't know one concept is better than the others you or whatever so comparing concepts is not good persuasion even if people agree with it even if they understand the concepts it's just too abstract but visual stuff and things that really have an existing hook in your brain can be powerful so when the president president says that he's that the Democrats want to bring you socialism he expanded to socialism and he did it this way I'm going to give you an impression of the president saying the word socialism as he did in his speech I'm paraphrasing but not the socialist apartment so President Trump goes and the the Democrats they want to bring you socialism Venezuela so he almost made socialism and Venezuela like a hyphenated new word they're trying to bring you socialism Venezuela he puts his hand out with Venezuela and I can't stop saying it and probably now you're hearing me say it and especially if you heard him say it originally how many of you are now saying it at home it is so freaking sticky all right say it with me and the Democrats are being bringing you socialism Venezuela you can't get that out of your head socialism Venezuela I had to say it five times just because it's so sticky so those are the little things he does consistently he puts a visual on it he he makes it sticky he makes it memorable he makes it a little bit wrong sometimes so that you criticize him for it but you're still thinking about it etc so that was interesting what else we got so yesterday I don't know if those of you saw my tweet but dr.

Drew went on my my startups app the interface by when hub app where anybody can contact an expert and get an immediate video call and the expert just sets the price and just says when they're available and if they're available and you want to pay that price you're immediately connected to a video call so dr.

Drew was taking calls yesterday and I tweeted that out oh I'll catch up with him on that experience I think I was his first call because he he alerted me that he was going to be on there and I actually had a call a paid call with dr.

Joe and I asked a number of questions that I would never ask my doctor and I realized that there's something I realized during the call and I'm gonna ask you if you've ever had that experience do you feel that your doctor is rushing you sometimes you know they they do a pretty good job of most doctors of trying to do the best they can of not making you feel obviously like they're rushing you but because of the the system that you're walking into you know that the doctor is being paid by that call not by the time he spends so you're always sort of conscious that the doctor wants to get on to the next one not necessarily because of profit but but because there are other people waiting so you are your normal politeness your sense of playing within the rules playing within the system makes you sort of want to be rushed you know you're sort of okay with being rushed because there are people waiting and it is a it's a business model you don't want your insurance to cost more so you'd like to be as efficient as possible as well so I always have this feeling of being a little bit rushed with a doctor not it's not the biggest problem in the world but I feel a little rushed but because of the interface by when hub app and because the doctor will any doctor who's on it would be charging by the time that they spend i wasn't rushed because i don't think the doctor would care if i spend time with him or he went to another patient if he's being paid by the minute and so i found myself asking questions about things i'd always been curious about but were not an immediate problem the and i just got this amazing information from you know one of the most knowledgeable medical people on the planet for a very reasonable price it was incredible so here are some other things i would like to see on on the app in terms of experts so we're having this big discussion about memory now and you're seeing a lot of articles in the press about memory and memory experts etc well i have a friend you might know carbon simon who wrote the book impossible to ignore it's a book about memory and i'll probably try to talk her into getting on the app at one point i'm not sure if she'll be interested but the the general point is the same wouldn't it be great if you were an expert on memory and you knew that the the headlines were about memory and you could just put yourself on the app say i'm a memory expert and then if you're writing an article about it let's say you're a journalist blogger you're just writing an article about this Cavanagh thing about doctor ford's memory and you'd like to talk to an expert just pick up the app here's an expert on memory boom and you're having a live call with a world expert like a published recognized you know PhD expert in memory who is currently working in the field right there it's just in your hand and it took you no time you just typed in memory and there was your expert so i think on the way news is going to be covered could change because of stuff like this every time there's a there's an aviation just think about this every time there's a plane that has a problem let's say a plane goes down the the press is always looking for an aviation aviation expert and one who knows that particular plane ideally a pilot who's who's flown that very plane wouldn't it be great if no matter what they always just pick up the app and instead of googling somebody and trying to track them down and sending an email to a website that may or may not be read that's the way the press does it now or unless they have them on their list already there you just go to the interface app and say all right let's see if anybody signed up because of the headline they might not be there ordinarily but because of the headline experts would just sign up in the app and say okay I'm a I'm an aviation expert I have flown this plane I've been a flight controller at this Airport etc somebody said how do I invest so we're not well the the quick answer is that we the app is supported by tokens a cryptocurrency that we created for the app there works within the app it's optional you can just pay by cash in credit card but some people will pay by our own currency called the when if you own the when and the app does well the when is likely to go up in value but we don't call that an investment so cryptocurrency does not qualify as an investment but is nonetheless true that if you owned the when which you could buy a couple of exchanges now or just go to it go to when hub calm you'll see links for buying it directly so if you go to when hub calm you'll see directions for buying the when cryptocurrency that if the app is successful there'll be more demand for a as a token within the app and that should because of demand and supply cause its value to go up it's already trading on a couple of exchanges l a token la token exchange for example and we'll be on some more exchanges I think soon it's both Apple and Android yes and it works across platform so if you have an apple you can call somebody was on an Android alright enough of that let me give you another example remember yesterday I was talking about the idea somebody had the idea that I liked but I didn't know the know whether would work and the idea is this to to increase the postage that China has to pay to mail a package to the United States and the idea is to take the month the extra money from that postage and use it to buy fentanyl detectors so that we can check all of the mail that's coming in from China and that it would be funded by increasing the postage on China because fentanyl from China from their illegal drug labs is probably killing 30,000 people a year including my stepson this is the latest week now the part I didn't know is is that practical could you increase postage is that even something that we could talk about or is there some treaty that we couldn't violate this or some process that makes it hard well what I would have liked is that during this periscope I would say I'm going to ask an expert on how postage is set internationally there must be somebody in the country who has worked in this field they worked for the Postal Service they've negotiated international postage exchange rates effectively because you know what we pay to mail something internationally is based on that other country agreeing to handle it once it gets there so I'd like to have an expert and say ok is this idea practical or is it crazy now I've been saying for a while now that we're entering a golden age and the way I've defined the golden age this is sort of my own definition is that most physical problems have been solved we now have mostly information problems which we're developing tools to solve quickly and this was a perfect example this whole post thing to increase the tax so we can buy fentanyl screeners to stop China from selling their poison into this country is the sort of idea that's either it's either really good or it's not but it would take an expert to answer that so I'm using that as a generic situation where probably information and the ability to quickly find the right kind of expert which is what the my company's app will provide could make just a huge difference to society because its ability to plug that piece of missing information almost instantly yeah the Mexican cartels are a big part of the problem but it turns out that China is the major fentanyl China as I call them now oh and I I didn't even tell you the best part about the idea I'm sorry I completely forgot to tell you speaking of memory why the postage increase to buy fentanyl screeners to screen Chinese packages why that's such a good idea the reason it's such a good idea is that it puts the spotlight on China for being such bad international citizens all right so it's not even about providing money because it's entirely possible that somebody's going to say to me you know that fentanyl screening equipment doesn't cost that much and it's and the Chinese mail is coming through one source we already have the funding for those screeners to which I say missing the point entirely it's not really about how we fund the new equipment to screen the packages it's not about that it's about having something that is ready-made for the media to say we're arguing with China and China doesn't want to do this but we want to increase their postage to pay for the fentanyl screeners because they're killing 30,000 people a year that's why you do it you do it because it it packages it as a story there's shames China into doing more to make sure we will stop talking about their fentanyl war with the United States they want us to not talk about it China really really wants us to not talk about how they're killing how many tens of thousands of people they're killing every year in our country because if we start talking about that what does that do to all of the other negotiations about trade I'll tell you what it does is stiffens the the spine of the US citizens presidents President Trump's ability to negotiate effectively with China depends on China understanding the the mood of the US I would say the mood of the US is that China is sort of a frenemy meaning that they're they're mostly friends and in most ways that country is interact it's mostly good you know there we're not at war with them we trade with them we both make money over each other we coordinate we coordinate on North Korea so we're more friends than not but then there's all these areas of like intellectual property South China Sea you know some interference with maybe some stuff we want to do maybe they were a little bit lacks with what they're doing with North Korea playing both sides we don't know exactly the details that story so China is sort of balancing between being our enemy and being our friend if China can keep their brand clean as clean as they can get if they can keep their blant brand clean in terms of how the United States population thinks about them then the president is handicapped so President Trump would have far less negotiating power if if the United States citizenry thought you know we like China why are we messing with them you know why should we push so hard on our friends you saw what happened when he was negotiating with Canada and with Mexico right when we negotiated with Canada what was your feeling because he was going hard at probably our best international friend I don't know if that's true but prob Candida is you the United States closest best ally friend personal good feeling just completely positive from top to bottom I mean you know we joke about Canada but the fact is the Canadian us feeling about each other is just very positive so it was harder for him to push on them because the population was like do we really need to do we don't really need to do that how much pain do we want to take in this country you know because of course they would retaliate with her own tariffs to push a friend yeah now but China is not quite Canada are they China you could easily imagine the u.s.

opinion of China flipping one way or the other if it flips negative and and people started thinking of fentanyl China which they should it's our top priority is the fentanyl because of the number of people it kills everything else is just money but the fentanyl is just frickin killing people by the droves I talked to somebody at my son's funeral the 25 year old who has lost eight friends to overdose opioid overdose mostly fentanyl I believe eight he's 25 years old you know normal normal guy living in a normal suburb he's lost eight friends to overdose and most of it probably came from China we don't know for sure but probably and then you know I lost my stepson this week eighteen years old and and there was another friend his age who died the next day and from who knows same batch maybe so this is why you open up the question of increasing the postage on China to pay for a fentanyl sniffers or even to pay for a drug rehab I mean it doesn't have to be just for the fentanyl detectors at the porn Evette port of entry from the mail it could be it could be for drug rehab but branding China as the source of this problem and just making it their brand either forces them to negotiate better for the rest of our rest of our deals because they know that the u.s.

is is solidly behind their president because you know he's he's hard on China and wants to be friends and be professional with leadership but he's very hard on him for negotiating and he needs the spine of the citizenry to say push as hard as you need to you know we'll wait we'll we'll take the pain we'll take the risk push as neat as you are to push as hard as you need to and this would be just a perfect branding for that all right so let's get off of that here's what else is going on China would just transship the you so somebody said that China would just ship it through other countries and that it would come here and that's even more reason to increase their postage because we have to check the port of entry from every country because you're right China would if the only things we're checking is mail from China you're right we wouldn't get it all because they would just ship it somewhere else to ship here from after that so we're gonna have to charge China a lot for extra postage because because of them we're gonna have to check all the other port of entries what as well although we might have done that anyway I know build the wall yeah I I don't know how much difference the wall makes for fentanyl because the problem with fentanyl is you know you could hold a bottle in your hand that would have enough fentanyl that you know wipe out a city or a lot of people I don't know the exact math of it but it's such a small thing that Mexico doesn't even really need to I mean they could literally walk up to the wall and say hey you over on the other side here you go catch that so I don't know how a wall would necessarily stop that however I did hear that there was recently a fentanyl dealer who was not Isis and I believe he was probably either Mexican or Central American citizenship who because they could not get him because of the sanctuary city so the sanctuary City stuff is apparently protecting fentanyl dealers from below the border and I have to admit I wasn't I wasn't a maniac about the issue in general because I could see it both ways I'm I'm emotionally so emotionally socially personally I'm very bonded to the you know the immigrants who have come from below the border both legal and illegal if you live in California you're surrounded by people of dubious citizenship all the time and you come to know them and love them and trust them and work with them and so emotionally personally and in every on every you know non rational level I'm very very Pro that population and so I sort of stayed out of the sanctuary City conversation because it doesn't feel like a good system but the alternative isn't great either because you know you got some downside both ways at least there's an argument for it right you know at least there's an argument before going either way but now that I hear that it might be protecting fentanyl dealers I'm starting to change my opinion because that is far too big a risk if we actually can find fentanyl dealers we need to start executing them and I'm absolutely Pro execution for the the very big fentanyl dealers not not the local street people were just you know doing some low-level damage I'm talking about the big the big dealers of fentanyl need to be executed that should be absolutely true because if we have a you know if we had somebody who used a gun to kill a hundred people you pretty much execute that person and fentanyl crosses a bunch of borders so it seems like it would necessarily be a federal thing I think the federal government can just kill all of them and I think that China needs to start executing its own drug dealers a little bit more publicly because that would help us a lot Scott wants to pull the lever I would pull the lever if if somebody gave me the option of pulling the lever to execute a fentanyl like a major dealer not not somebody who just was a user and you know was selling to support their own habit or something like that because those those people just need help but a major dealer of fentanyl I could pull that handle so easily you know you think to yourself I would I would I feel bad forever because I I killed I took a life nope wouldn't even feel a little bit bad it would I would have a good day being the person who actually killed a fentanyl dealer that would be a good day for me which is probably why we shouldn't have the deaths that's I think I accidentally gave you a really good argument for not having the death penalty because the the very fact that I'm being honest with you for this this this specific crime of killing hundreds of people with your your drug that you know is going to kill hundreds of people for that specific crime I could I could kill them with joy yeah that's a pretty good argument for not having a death penalty frankly so I can see it from both sides what if he was later found innocent you know depends what you mean by innocent it seems unlikely that a major drug dealer would be found later not to have been a major drug dealer usually when somebody's found innocent after the fact it's because they did a specific prime minister you know they either murder somebody or didn't a single act that's the sort of thing you could definitely have a mistaken identity but if you take down a major drug dealer and you've got a whole network of people reporting yeah this is the guy the the odds of having a mistaken identity with a major drug dealer pretty low somebody's asking about Jordan Peterson I know why you're asking so Jordan Peterson had floated the idea in a tweet of what was he said he said he said at least consider judge Cavanaugh being sworn in to the Supreme Court and then voluntarily quitting to rehabilitate his reputation this is with the Cavanaugh's reputation and then bring credibility to the Supreme Court now people like me and other people questioned that's like whoa how does that work because it seems to me the only way this judge can rehabilitate his reputation is by serving and doing a good job and ways in which people will recognize as fair so he has one path for redemption and he took it which is getting sworn in hunkering down doing the work of the people you know and ten years later we're gonna look at his rulings and we're gonna say yeah that was pretty fair and then then you have something like rehabilitation or at least partial but quitting would certainly look guilty to people and me that looked like a bad idea now to his credit Jordan Peterson modified clarified people would say walk their back I hate that phrase because sometimes you're just clarifying your thinking you're not really walking stuff back that walking it back feel it just has the wrong connotation so and he explained it in the follow-up tweet that it was more a mental experiment a thought thought experiment I guess and I thought to myself I'm okay with that I'm okay with that you know remember my rule my 48-hour rule yeah somebody just said a year the 48-hour rule says that if somebody says something that's ambiguous or provocative and people are questioning it you know did you really mean to say that they give the person 48 hours to clarify what they did mean instead of us trying to put our interpretation on it and then judging it at the same time it's just a bad process you don't want to put your your own interpretation on somebody's ambiguous statement and then blame them for your interpretation because she answers are they're gonna they're gonna clarify so he said something that I would say was provocative it was actually kind of interesting and that's what a thought experiment does is it made you think through ok would that work how would that work how would that make people feel maybe think about a complicated thing that was good and then in the end you could you could see him sort of softening his his level of I know the credibility was putting in his own thought and that seemed entirely appropriate because he had thought about it a little more he got a little more feedback he clarified well we're just I'm just putting that out there as a thought experiment to which I say clarified clarification accepted all right so if you here's my standard if you were tempted to say when you saw his first tweet or two on this topic my god Jordan Peterson I thought he was so smart but he seems to have lost it because this latest tweet I totally disagree with I don't see how this could work that's not really fair that's what the 48-hour rule does it allows the person who's the subject of it in this case and Peterson to clarify he had 48 hours to to work out his thinking and put it out there in the his clearest form and when he did it was a lot more clear and then I said okay that's he was thinking out loud sort of thinking in public now most people should not think in public it's probably a bad thing for most you but he's sort of earned the right to do that all right not everybody should be thinking in public it's just a bad look for most people but Jordan Peterson has very much earned a little bit of trust right certainly 48 hours of just to say all right we didn't like what you said or how we interpreted it give us give us a little more on that and then I can judge he delivered I looked at it I said that's reasonable he put it out there we wrestled with it let's move on so that's how the 48-hour rule works all right what else is happening now somebody say he isn't really conservative politically doesn't matter I don't sue I hate to try to summarize somebody else's brand you know an individual but I would say that Jordan Peterson is pro science if you're saying he is he is liberal or he's conservative I feel like you've missed the whole story correct me if I'm wrong but I thought Jordan Peterson's brand was what what makes sense and what could be supported by the facts and what could be supported by the science now if that puts you on sometimes the right and sometimes on the left and you're arguing oh he's more lefty than you think or he's more conservative than you think you've missed the entire point you know the entire point of Jordan Peterson is that he's neither of those things the moment he's left or the moment he's right he's useless right I Jordan Peterson is like a an international treasure because he's willing to say the hard stuff you can disagree with him or you can agree with him but he does stick to the facts you can't say that about him you can't say he just ignores facts you can't say that he doesn't respond to a better argument because I think you just watched it in this very question in this very situation you saw his his thought patterns forming right that is very encouraging to watch somebody change their mind or maybe more just refine their thinking in public anybody who can do that is not conservative and they're not a liberal there's someone who's following the logic they're following the facts so it bothers me when I hear people say he's just revealing his secret liberal side or a secret conservative side it's true that everybody has bias and it would be it would be surprising if you know he was the one person who didn't but he is the one person who's probably more committed than anybody I've ever seen except maybe Dershowitz that's a good example for following the facts yeah Dershowitz and Jordan Peterson are two people I trust to be willing to disagree with whatever group you think they're associated with if the facts of the law and the logic take them somewhere else yeah Kanye's off Twitter somebody says sadly keep in mind that when you're looking at Kanye you have to think of the Trump model to understand him now I don't mean the Trump model in that he's going to be like Trump and in all the important ways I don't mean that but you remember that when Trump did anything during the candidacy it was the thing that other people weren't doing and it was the thing that all the smart people said you shouldn't do all right so Trump did all the things that smart people said he shouldn't do and he made it work because he was doing things that worked for Trump right there were things that wouldn't work for Biden they went to work for Hillary but when Trump did Trump Trump can do Trump better than anybody's ever done Trump because he is Trump Kanye can do things that wouldn't work for anybody else all right so if you were gonna advise someone who might have their sights set on the presidency someday you were to advise them how to go about it you certainly wouldn't say delete your Twitter what do you like for the average person because it would take a long time to build back the audience people wouldn't bother signing back on it's like I was just gonna quit it again but with Kanye he lives in the state of continuous creation and you can't create without destroying so he's a destroyer slash greater because those two things are really two sides of the same thing it's like this yin and yang thing creation and destruction are inseparable so when Kanye destroys his social media he's also creating you can't say that about other people if a regular politician destroyed his social media presence by just deleting all their accounts that's all that would have happened they would have taken an asset that was useful and they would have destroyed it and you'd say well that's kind of dumb but Kanye is not other people when Kanye destroys his social media presence he's he's you know his destruction is also his creation for him they're tied because he's a creator extraordinaire and the big group in the in the biggest world I saw you probably saw the Saturday Night Live thing where after the show was closing they cut him off but he was saying some pro Trump stuff and then I forget the first name but Davidson is the the SNL actor who came on and did a skit mocking Kanye for being on the show now I have two comments about that first of all and if anybody knows is it Pete Davidson okay thank you so Pete Davidson I didn't know a lot about him I guess he is dating ariana grande so he's got something going for him well I didn't know much about him I don't watch too much Saturday in their life but I have to say even though the things he was saying I completely disagreed with he is really funny right you have to do a really good job in humor to make me laugh when the point of your humor is so completely objectionable to me he's really good so that's my first thing Pete Davidson is a really funny guy so he made me laugh when I shouldn't have and that was great so credit him for extraordinary talent but one of the things he said is what I call loser think loser think because one word loser think and it's the way that unsuccessful people think no obviously Pete Davidson is not unsuccessful he's closer to the definition of successful but that idea that he put forward was this that Kanye should stick to music so what he said was the Kanye's a genius but that he's a musical genius and that he should stay in his lane would I be talking to you right now if I took that advice all right there are 2000 people watching me on periscope right now you've seen you've seen the influence that I have on on things you've seen how it's changed you some many of you every day somebody comes up to me and tells me how this literally happens every day that's something I read they something I wrote that they read either one of my books usually had to fail at everything or win Bigley and they'll say it changed my life I got a promotion I got I got you know some huge success from you none of that would happen if I stayed in my lane president Trump would not be the president if he stayed in his Lane he neither would he have been a golf course developer neither would he have been a reality TV star staying in your lane is just the worst advice you could ever give someone that you acknowledge to be a genius all right now it's one thing to say that Michael Jordan shouldn't play baseball because that's one of those situations where you can predict how that's going to go with enough certainty that you can say well you know this probably won't work out and still keep in mind that Michael Jordan wasn't sure that he couldn't be a major league baseball player he didn't know he thought he could be and he came pretty close right so I'm still in favor of Michael Jordan having tried that move because here's what you don't tell Michael Jordan stay in your lane all right even though most of us thought it wouldn't work out and it worked out pretty well it just didn't go all the way you just don't tell a genius and one thing to not try another thing because whatever made somebody successful in one thing probably has some spillover all right so when you say somebody is a musical genius and they haven't and the knock on Kanye is that he hasn't studied his history enough well there's something to be said for that I'm not going to I'm not going to say that you know Kanye is a historian and I'm not going to say that I'm a historian either but Kanye is approaching it from a creative place and the creativity is something we haven't seen at a level that he could provide it even Trump you know he Trump will get out of any box you try to put him in so he'll he'll break every mold but he's not creative in the same way Trump is more creative in the sense that he brings a business persuasion selling set of tools to a place that didn't have them or at least not to that extent Connie it just brings a whole new thing it's stuff you haven't seen before so let me put this a little context I have said very unpopular ly I have said that I believed that Obama was a good fit as a president for the time he was president so he was a calm voice at a time when we needed calmness to keep the economy from falling over the edge probably did the right stuff or enough of the right stuff to save the economy so I think Obama was a good choice it was also sort of time for a black president in my opinion the the country sort of as one said yeah it's just time to do this let's let's let's check this off because we'll feel incomplete until we found at least a black president it feels like you just got to get past that so I think Obama was really good fit for those times I think he would have been a bad fit if he could have done a 16-year term I think he would have been a bad fit for a a rockin economy when things are going real well you want somebody who will take a little extra risk because you can afford a little extra risk when things are going so screamingly well and that that best fit is Trump so I think you can have a different president for each block of time and you get one that fits now let's say we get to the point where the president Trump has the economy just screaming but yet we can't solve stuff like health care and you know let's say opioids are still a big problem we still have these big problems but we don't have a money problem think about this think about how big this thought is where we're entering the point where the economy is so strong and we have so many billionaires who are willing to help that money isn't a problem for most of our big problems it isn't do you know what is the problem do you know what's lacking what is this that what is the thing we don't have to solve the biggest problems in this country what do we don't have you might say well we don't have leadership the Congress or something like that well we don't have you know a defective Congress as effective as it needs to be but we also don't need Congress because remember I just told you we have all the money we need there are enough billionaires who would gladly fund a good idea what we're missing is a good idea and I mean that in the general sense we need better ideas for drug addiction we need better ideas for training we need better ideas for a school we need better ideas for safety we need better ideas for you know the urban blight you know once it's clear down what are you going to put there we need better ideas for how to be better to each other we need better ideas for reducing racism which of those things does Congress do you know does Congress come up with good ideas that's sort of not their job they're not the right ones so in the unique situation where your economy is screaming but you still can't solve your problems what do you need who do you need you need somebody like Kanye you need somebody who's gonna say we got the money that's great and we couldn't do anything without it so thank you President Obama for getting us away from the ledge and getting us a solid base thank you president Trump for making this economy just scream and also getting rid of most of our external threats North Korea you know the other big external threats if we're in that situation at the end of Trump's presidency where the economy is screaming and we don't have external threats like we used to we just still have problems and we don't have ideas what kind of a president do you need do you need an Obama know you wouldn't be the right fit do you need another Trump like Trump to the whoever is the closest to Trump probably not probably not if everything is going well you might need somebody who can change the national mind you know somebody who can who can add diversification to the way were thinking so before you dismiss Kayne for not being like other presidents are or like people we expect to be President just consider that that's not what he's offering he's offering the thing we don't have and we need nobody's offered that before who's the other who's the other politician who's offered that level of creative destruction and remember creation and destruction can't separate them if you do it right and Kanye does it right he'll be he brings the destruction along with the the construction all right am i predicting president Kanye West well the minimum requirement for predicting that would be how serious he gets it would be hard to bet against Kanye if he was if he was just full-on I'm gonna make this happen there just some people that are hard to bet against and he's one of them yeah Rand Paul I see the name going by in the comments Rand Paul's reputation is sky-high with me right now so Rand Paul is on my my good list by far I've talked about North Korea already Oh have we so the latest from North Korea is that apparently North Korea has agreed to to work on the details of letting people come in and well I have to have to show you this so North Korea is working on the details of letting inspectors come in which I don't know I don't think the critics ever thought we would get to that point but I want to show you a picture that I tweeted right before it was announced that good things are happening there and I don't know how well you'll be able to see this but here's a picture of Pompeii oh darn it you can only go the wrong way so apparently I've managed to get my phone in a mode where it can only go the wrong way here we go so see look at the smiles on these two guys I think you can see it look at the way they're looking at each other now ask yourself this is this the way you look at each other when you haven't made decisions on the big stuff would would Pompeo have that expression if he was still negotiating hard on the important stuff maybe you know maybe this is when you're reading body language and smiles and stuff like that this is this is not hard science in the sense that we can just look at them and we're smart so we know what they're thinking well I'll tell you when I saw that I said to myself it looks like the deal is done and I don't mean the details the details could take another you know three years to work out but the main the main thing which is denuclearization and are we can have inspectors to watch it happen it looks to me those two expressions I'll tell you what I thought when I saw those expressions I said to myself this is here are two people who can't wait to tell you a secret they have a really good news and they can't wait to tell you but they're they can't tell you yet because you have to work through the system probably there'll be something announced of major import when Kim comes to the United States what could be a better time to announce something than Kim coming to the United States standing in the White House in the Oval Office and and making a deal now I believe I believe that the the thing that's going to break the log jam is an agreement to end the or is it a war I forget this technical word for it but the so there's this standing state of at least in a legal sense there's a standing state of war in the Korean Peninsula and North Korea has asked that we change that I'm not sure if that's the UN or that's the United States Congress but either one is doable and I thought to myself that is exactly the right thing for Kim to ask for because he should at least make it a little bit difficult for a president to try to attack North Korea and one way to do that is for the countries involved to change their own laws to get out of a state of war because if you're in the state of war the president has all kinds of flexibility and if you're not in the state of war the president's going to have to work pretty hard to get you into the state of war so it makes complete sense that North Korea is asking for a declaration of an end of hostilities and a completely reasonable thing to ask at this point and it's completely reasonable that we held off on that until we had some commitment to get the nuclear to get the nuclear denuclearization alright how is Kim going to unbraid wash his people quite a project he's already started so apparently the propaganda in the north has shifted from we need these nukes to you know be a great country too we used our nukes to end the war so Kim has the best he just has a perfect setup for transitioning this from the worst-case scenario to the best-case scenario you've never seen a better setup because he can say I built these nukes and that's why that's why the United States came to the table I became a peer with China I became a peer with the United States I became up here with South Korea and that was necessary in order to get negotiation on an even playing field so that we could all be adults and we could get this done as long as those other countries were teaching treating us like children we couldn't get it down but now that were equals we got a deal that story is if I were a North Korean and I heard that story I would say that actually sounds pretty good he we built our nukes it got us at the end of the war I got his prosperity we don't need the nukes anymore they did what they needed to do that's a great story and indeed I've said that Kim would deserve a at least to share a Nobel Peace Prize if he if he pulls this through and I would like to see him get that actually all right that's all for now and I'm going to talk to you later

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simultaneous hip ah well there was a

prediction I didn't make that I should

have and it goes like this all right

this is what I should have said the

other day I was thinking of doing it and

I thought yeah I'm not sure I want to do

it and here's the prediction I was going

to say the president Trump is having

such a good week that the anti-trump

media is going to have to go back to

their old bag of tricks and sure enough

climate change so there's big headlines

on climate change if we do not totally

reverse things by 2030 there will be

grievous harm to the world now I guess

this news was going to happen anyway

because the IPPC issued a report but

it's kind of weird that the report comes

out exactly at the time the Cavanaugh

thing is done have you noticed the

consistency of the news it you know if

there's a slow news time there's always

there's always a story that just plops

right in now we haven't heard much about

Russia

do you remember Muller so I don't know

whether we should worry about climate

change this time or not I will tell you

that the way it's presented once again

is fraudulent

so now I'm just talking about the way

the news presents it so I'm not talking

about the science

so the basic science I assume if you add

co2 to a closed system the temperature

will go up and I would imagine that

that's certain enough that we could call

that science that we could call that

true but the projections of course are

are the hard part and with a lot of

variables in play but here's the part

that's completely illegitimate and every

time I pointed out you should say to

yourself oh my god why wasn't that

obvious one before you pointed it out it

goes like this

the world doesn't have one decision to

make climate change is not the one thing

we have to figure out if you spend all

of your money or some trillions of your

money on climate change you won't have

money for the other stuff so when they

say climate change could cause us to

have X amount of you know a trillion

dollars of problems you have to weigh

that against what else would you do with

that trillion dollars would you give

everybody health care would you win a

war would you make sure that a comet

that was heading toward the earth didn't

get us would you you know would you have

more defense against a pandemic would

you build your borders so that you can

protect their there you've got other

things to do with the this money

somebody called the opportunity cost

that is correct so I call this a half

pinion if the only thing you've looked

at is the cost of doing nothing and in

this case you may have looked at the

benefits of doing something but you're

not looking at the opportunity cost the

the trillion plus dollars of things you

should have been doing could have been

doing would have been doing and what

would what would be better would it be

better to remediate to relocate people

to build more more water facilities to

take a trillion toys let's say you take

a trillion dollars and put it into

deforesting the Sahara which apparently

we know how to do now

believe it or not we know how to

reforest deserts that's that's a real

thing suppose we took our Chile and we

just put it into reforesting the Sahara

well I may have my science wrong but

here's the general idea about using your

money for other stuff alright if you

were to reforest if you if you were to

reforest and not DeForest if you were to

reforest the Sahara my understanding is

that it would cool down that region and

that region has a lot to do with the

Hurricanes that form in the Atlantic so

if your problem from global warming is

that too many hurricanes and that's just

one of the several gigantic problems

that are predicted what if you spent you

know the same amount of money just

getting rid of the source of the

Hurricanes what would happen well I

don't know but the point is that there

are lots of ways to spend the money and

if we don't know all of those ways and

we're not at least keeping that in our

mind we're only looking at half of the

situation so there's that let's talk

about the Democrats knew so the

Democrats are trying to do two things

that look like they would be hard to do

to me one is they're trying to paint

themselves as the the party of believing

women now believing women is

specifically in the context of

accusations about sexual assaults now

believing women is good but it sounds a

lot like guilty until proven innocent or

it can slide into that now if you're

trying to form a party that is a

coalition of women and minorities that

seems to be sort of the you know the

Democrats brand is they're the they're

the group that's going to be good for

women and minorities let me ask you this

believing women which gets very close to

guilty until proven innocent at least

the way we think of it and treat it

is that good for african-americans now

it should be right you could make an

argument that is just good for everybody

but does it feel that way if you were

black and I'm not so I don't you know

it's dangerous for me to try to say how

would do you think if you were something

else when you're not but I'll just put

it in the form of a question if you were

black and your biggest issue is that the

police are blaming you have stuff that

maybe you think you didn't do or that

you didn't do how is that compatible

with changing the changing the whole

thrust of the Democratic Party into

guilty until proven innocent if you're

black do you want to be in the guilty

until proven innocent party that feels

like exactly the opposite of black lives

matter doesn't it doesn't it if you it

feels like the Democrats have said that

you know women are going to be the

primary focus of their persuasion but I

don't know if all of these things are

completely compatible if I were black

and my biggest issue where police are

pulling me over accusing me of things I

didn't do beating me up that feels

exactly the opposite of of their thrust

right now so I don't know how they hold

the black vote we'll see I was amused

watching the president's the president's

speeches rally speech in Kansas I guess

and he he tried to label the Democrats

as the party of crime the party of crime

which is very clever now you could

certainly make an argument and they

would wait a minute the Republicans are

the party of crime they don't even

believe us when we accuse them of

committing crimes so you could make an

argument the other way but it's clever

it is clever branding because

immigration is about crime and um being

being tough on crime is the Republican

thing so you could imagine that it makes

sense for the press

and to say that the Democrats are the

party of crime I had I was saying that

they were the party of hate you remember

for several months I've said yeah

Democrats have turning into the party of

hate but that's probably not as good as

a party of crime and here's why

party of hate if if I told you if you

hadn't been paying attention let's say

for the past year and I just and all you

knew was everything that's happened up

until a year ago and I said hey one of

the parties is called the party of hate

what would you say which party would

that be you might say Republicans

because the Democrats would say oh the

Republicans hate minorities so my

framing of the Democrats as the party of

hate isn't as immediately agreeable to

people the way they're already primed

the president went with party of crime

the advantage of that is that you don't

think of Republicans as being Pro crime

you would never think of that because

they're so they're so follow the rules

they're strong on police strong on

military strong on borders so clearly

the Republicans are strong on crime and

if anything they're the criticism should

be there they're too strong against it

you know that would be the criticism

from the left so calling the Democrats

the party of crime is actually pretty

effective we'll see if it sticks it

looked like he was just throwing it out

there to test it see if it got picked up

and I didn't see it get picked up much

so it probably wasn't as sticky as as it

could have been but here was my favorite

part of his speech I've told you before

that the president always likes to use

visual language he likes to brand things

and you know and he likes to say things

in in provocative or interesting ways

because that makes it sticky it makes it

repeatable turns it into a sound bite

and one of my favorite things that I

think was just spontaneous but he was

talking about the Democrats wanted to

bring you socialism but if there's one

thing I've taught you

it's that talking about a concept is not

very powerful so if you were to say

socialism is bad

capitalism is good people say yeah

there's a concept I don't know one

concept is better than the others you or

whatever so comparing concepts is not

good persuasion even if people agree

with it even if they understand the

concepts it's just too abstract but

visual stuff

and things that really have an existing

hook in your brain can be powerful so

when the president president says that

he's that the Democrats want to bring

you socialism he expanded to socialism

and he did it this way I'm going to give

you an impression of the president

saying the word socialism as he did in

his speech I'm paraphrasing but not the

socialist apartment so President Trump

goes and the the Democrats they want to

bring you socialism Venezuela so he

almost made socialism and Venezuela like

a hyphenated new word they're trying to

bring you socialism Venezuela

he puts his hand out with Venezuela and

I can't stop saying it and probably now

you're hearing me say it and especially

if you heard him say it originally how

many of you are now saying it at home it

is so freaking sticky all right say it

with me and the Democrats are being

bringing you socialism Venezuela you

can't get that out of your head

socialism Venezuela I had to say it five

times just because it's so sticky so

those are the little things he does

consistently he puts a visual on it he

he makes it sticky he makes it memorable

he makes it a little bit wrong sometimes

so that you criticize him for it but

you're still thinking about it

etc so

that was interesting what else we got

so yesterday I don't know if those of

you saw my tweet but dr. Drew went on my

my startups app the interface by when

hub app where anybody can contact an

expert and get an immediate video call

and the expert just sets the price and

just says when they're available and if

they're available and you want to pay

that price you're immediately connected

to a video call so dr. Drew was taking

calls yesterday and I tweeted that out

oh I'll catch up with him on that

experience I think I was his first call

because he he alerted me that he was

going to be on there and I actually had

a call a paid call with dr. Joe and I

asked a number of questions that I would

never ask my doctor and I realized that

there's something I realized during the

call and I'm gonna ask you if you've

ever had that experience do you feel

that your doctor is rushing you

sometimes you know they they do a pretty

good job of most doctors of trying to do

the best they can of not making you feel

obviously like they're rushing you but

because of the the system that you're

walking into you know that the doctor is

being paid by that call not by the time

he spends so you're always sort of

conscious that the doctor wants to get

on to the next one not necessarily

because of profit but but because there

are other people waiting so you are your

normal politeness your sense of playing

within the rules playing within the

system makes you sort of want to be

rushed you know you're sort of okay with

being rushed because there are people

waiting and it is a it's a business

model you don't want your insurance to

cost more so you'd like to be as

efficient as possible as well so I

always have this feeling of being a

little bit rushed with a doctor not it's

not the biggest problem in the world but

I feel a little rushed but because of

the interface by when hub app and

because the doctor will any doctor who's

on it would be charging by the time that

they spend i wasn't rushed because i

don't think the doctor would care if i

spend time with him or he went to

another patient if he's being paid by

the minute and so i found myself asking

questions about things i'd always been

curious about but were not an immediate

problem the and i just got this amazing

information from you know one of the

most knowledgeable medical people on the

planet for a very reasonable price it

was incredible

so here are some other things i would

like to see on on the app in terms of

experts so we're having this big

discussion about memory now and you're

seeing a lot of articles in the press

about memory and memory experts etc well

i have a friend you might know carbon

simon who wrote the book impossible to

ignore it's a book about memory and i'll

probably try to talk her into getting on

the app at one point i'm not sure if

she'll be interested but the the general

point is the same wouldn't it be great

if you were an expert on memory and you

knew that the the headlines were about

memory and you could just put yourself

on the app say i'm a memory expert and

then if you're writing an article about

it let's say you're a journalist blogger

you're just writing an article about

this Cavanagh thing about doctor ford's

memory and you'd like to talk to an

expert

just pick up the app here's an expert on

memory boom and you're having a live

call with a world expert like a

published recognized you know PhD expert

in memory who is currently working in

the field right there it's just in your

hand and it took you no time you just

typed in memory and there was your

expert so i think on the way news is

going to be covered could change because

of stuff like this every time there's a

there's an aviation

just think about this every time there's

a plane that has a problem let's say a

plane goes down the the press is always

looking for an aviation aviation expert

and one who knows that particular plane

ideally a pilot who's who's flown that

very plane wouldn't it be great if no

matter what they always just pick up the

app and instead of googling somebody and

trying to track them down and sending an

email to a website that may or may not

be read that's the way the press does it

now or unless they have them on their

list already there you just go to the

interface app and say all right let's

see if anybody signed up because of the

headline they might not be there

ordinarily but because of the headline

experts would just sign up in the app

and say okay I'm a I'm an aviation

expert I have flown this plane I've been

a flight controller at this Airport etc

somebody said how do I invest so we're

not well the the quick answer is that we

the app is supported by tokens a

cryptocurrency that we created for the

app there works within the app it's

optional you can just pay by cash in

credit card but some people will pay by

our own currency called the when if you

own the when and the app does well the

when is likely to go up in value but we

don't call that an investment so

cryptocurrency does not qualify as an

investment but is nonetheless true that

if you owned the when which you could

buy a couple of exchanges now or just go

to it go to when hub calm you'll see

links for buying it directly so if you

go to when hub calm you'll see

directions for buying the when

cryptocurrency

that if the app is successful there'll

be more demand for a as a token within

the app and that should because of

demand and supply cause its value to go

up it's already trading on a couple of

exchanges l a token

la token exchange for example and we'll

be on some more exchanges I think soon

it's both Apple and Android yes and it

works across platform so if you have an

apple you can call somebody was on an

Android alright enough of that let me

give you another example remember

yesterday I was talking about the idea

somebody had the idea that I liked but I

didn't know the know whether would work

and the idea is this to to increase the

postage that China has to pay to mail a

package to the United States and the

idea is to take the month the extra

money from that postage and use it to

buy fentanyl detectors so that we can

check all of the mail that's coming in

from China and that it would be funded

by increasing the postage on China

because fentanyl from China from their

illegal drug labs is probably killing

30,000 people a year including my

stepson this is the latest week now the

part I didn't know is is that practical

could you increase postage is that even

something that we could talk about or is

there some treaty that we couldn't

violate this or some process that makes

it hard well what I would have liked is

that during this periscope I would say

I'm going to ask an expert on how

postage is set internationally there

must be somebody in the country who has

worked in this field they worked for the

Postal Service they've negotiated

international postage exchange rates

effectively because you know what we pay

to mail something internationally is

based on that other country agreeing to

handle it once it gets there so I'd like

to have an expert and say ok is this

idea practical or is it crazy now I've

been saying for a while now that we're

entering a golden age and the way I've

defined the golden age this is sort of

my own definition is that most physical

problems have been solved we now have

mostly information problems which we're

developing tools to solve quickly and

this was a perfect example this whole

post

thing to increase the tax so we can buy

fentanyl screeners to stop China from

selling their poison into this country

is the sort of idea that's either it's

either really good or it's not but it

would take an expert to answer that so

I'm using that as a generic situation

where probably information and the

ability to quickly find the right kind

of expert which is what the my company's

app will provide could make just a huge

difference to society because its

ability to plug that piece of missing

information almost instantly yeah the

Mexican cartels are a big part of the

problem but it turns out that China is

the major fentanyl China as I call them

now oh and I I didn't even tell you the

best part about the idea I'm sorry I

completely forgot to tell you

speaking of memory why the postage

increase to buy fentanyl screeners to

screen Chinese packages why that's such

a good idea the reason it's such a good

idea is that it puts the spotlight on

China for being such bad international

citizens all right

so it's not even about providing money

because it's entirely possible that

somebody's going to say to me you know

that fentanyl screening equipment

doesn't cost that much and it's and the

Chinese mail is coming through one

source we already have the funding for

those screeners to which I say missing

the point entirely

it's not really about how we fund the

new equipment to screen the packages

it's not about that it's about having

something that is ready-made for the

media to say we're arguing with China

and China doesn't want to do this but we

want to increase their postage to pay

for the fentanyl screeners because

they're killing 30,000 people a year

that's why you do it you do it because

it it packages it as a story

there's shames China into doing more to

make sure we will stop talking about

their fentanyl war with the United

States they want us to not

talk about it China really really wants

us to not talk about how they're killing

how many tens of thousands of people

they're killing every year in our

country because if we start talking

about that what does that do to all of

the other negotiations about trade I'll

tell you what it does is stiffens the

the spine of the US citizens presidents

President Trump's ability to negotiate

effectively with China depends on China

understanding the the mood of the US I

would say the mood of the US is that

China is sort of a frenemy meaning that

they're they're mostly friends and in

most ways that country is interact it's

mostly good you know there we're not at

war with them we trade with them we both

make money over each other we coordinate

we coordinate on North Korea so we're

more friends than not but then there's

all these areas of like intellectual

property South China Sea you know some

interference with maybe some stuff we

want to do maybe they were a little bit

lacks with what they're doing with North

Korea playing both sides we don't know

exactly the details that story so China

is sort of balancing between being our

enemy and being our friend

if China can keep their brand clean as

clean as they can get if they can keep

their blant brand clean in terms of how

the United States population thinks

about them then the president is

handicapped so President Trump would

have far less negotiating power if if

the United States citizenry thought you

know we like China why are we messing

with them you know why should we push so

hard on our friends you saw what

happened when he was negotiating with

Canada and with Mexico right when we

negotiated with Canada what was your

feeling because he was going hard at

probably our best international friend I

don't know if that's true but prob

Candida is you the United States closest

best ally friend personal good feeling

just completely positive from top to

bottom I mean you know we joke about

Canada but the fact is the Canadian us

feeling about each other is just very

positive so it was harder for him to

push on them because the population was

like do we really need to do we don't

really need to do that how much pain do

we want to take in this country you know

because of course they would retaliate

with her own tariffs to push a friend

yeah now but China is not quite Canada

are they China you could easily imagine

the u.s. opinion of China flipping one

way or the other if it flips negative

and and people started thinking of

fentanyl China which they should it's

our top priority is the fentanyl because

of the number of people it kills

everything else is just money but the

fentanyl is just frickin killing people

by the droves I talked to somebody at my

son's funeral the 25 year old who has

lost eight friends to overdose opioid

overdose mostly fentanyl I believe eight

he's 25 years old you know normal normal

guy living in a normal suburb

he's lost eight friends to overdose and

most of it probably came from China we

don't know for sure but probably and

then you know I lost my stepson this

week eighteen years old and and there

was another friend his age who died the

next day and from who knows same batch

maybe so this is why you open up the

question of increasing the postage on

China to pay for a fentanyl sniffers or

even to pay for a drug rehab I mean it

doesn't have to be just for the fentanyl

detectors at the porn Evette port of

entry from the mail it could be it could

be for drug rehab but branding China as

the source of this problem and just

making it their brand either forces them

to negotiate better for the rest of our

rest of our deals because they know that

the u.s. is is solidly behind their

president because you know he's he's

hard on China and wants to be friends

and be professional with leadership but

he's very hard on him for negotiating

and he needs the spine of the citizenry

to say push as hard as you need to you

know we'll wait we'll we'll take the

pain we'll take the risk push as neat as

you are to push as hard as you need to

and this would be just a perfect

branding for that all right so let's get

off of that here's what else is going on

China would just transship the you so

somebody said that China would just ship

it through other countries and that it

would come here and that's even more

reason to increase their postage because

we have to check the port of entry from

every country because you're right

China would if the only things we're

checking is mail from China you're right

we wouldn't get it all because they

would just ship it somewhere else to

ship here from after that so we're gonna

have to charge China a lot for extra

postage because because of them we're

gonna have to check all the other port

of entries what as well although we

might have done that anyway

I know build the wall yeah I I don't

know how much difference the wall makes

for fentanyl because the problem with

fentanyl is you know you could hold a

bottle in your hand that would have

enough fentanyl that you know wipe out a

city or a lot of people I don't know the

exact math of it but it's such a small

thing

that Mexico doesn't even really need to

I mean they could literally walk up to

the wall and say hey you over on the

other side here you go catch that so I

don't know how a wall would necessarily

stop that however I did hear that there

was recently a fentanyl dealer who was

not Isis and I believe he was probably

either Mexican or Central American

citizenship who because they could not

get him because of the sanctuary city so

the sanctuary City stuff is apparently

protecting fentanyl dealers from below

the border and I have to admit I wasn't

I wasn't a maniac about the issue in

general because I could see it both ways

I'm I'm emotionally so emotionally

socially personally I'm very bonded to

the you know the immigrants who have

come from below the border both legal

and illegal if you live in California

you're surrounded by people of dubious

citizenship all the time and you come to

know them and love them and trust them

and work with them and so emotionally

personally and in every on every you

know non rational level I'm very very

Pro that population and so I sort of

stayed out of the sanctuary City

conversation because it doesn't feel

like a good system but the alternative

isn't great either because you know you

got some downside both ways at least

there's an argument for it right you

know at least there's an argument before

going either way but now that I hear

that it might be protecting fentanyl

dealers I'm starting to change my

opinion because that is far too big a

risk

if we actually can find fentanyl dealers

we need to start executing them and I'm

absolutely Pro execution for the the

very big fentanyl dealers not not the

local street people were just you know

doing some low-level damage I'm talking

about the big the big dealers of

fentanyl need to be executed that should

be absolutely true because if we have a

you know if we had somebody who used a

gun to kill a hundred people

you pretty much execute that person and

fentanyl crosses a bunch of borders so

it seems like it would necessarily be a

federal thing I think the federal

government can just kill all of them and

I think that China needs to start

executing its own drug dealers a little

bit more publicly because that would

help us a lot

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Scott wants to pull the lever I would

pull the lever if if somebody gave me

the option of pulling the lever to

execute a fentanyl like a major dealer

not not somebody who just was a user and

you know was selling to support their

own habit or something like that because

those those people just need help but a

major dealer of fentanyl

I could pull that handle so easily you

know you think to yourself I would I

would I feel bad forever because I I

killed I took a life nope wouldn't even

feel a little bit bad it would I would

have a good day being the person who

actually killed a fentanyl dealer that

would be a good day for me which is

probably why we shouldn't have the

deaths that's I think I accidentally

gave you a really good argument for not

having the death penalty because the the

very fact that I'm being honest with you

for this this this specific crime of

killing hundreds of people with your

your drug that you know is going to kill

hundreds of people for that specific

crime

I could I could kill them with joy yeah

that's a pretty good argument for not

having a death penalty frankly so I can

see it from both sides

what if he was later found innocent

you know depends what you mean by

innocent it seems unlikely that a major

drug dealer would be found later not to

have been a major drug dealer

usually when somebody's found innocent

after the fact it's because they did a

specific prime minister you know they

either murder somebody or didn't a

single act that's the sort of thing you

could definitely have a mistaken

identity but if you take down a major

drug dealer and you've got a whole

network of people reporting yeah this is

the guy the the odds of having a

mistaken identity with a major drug

dealer pretty low

somebody's asking about Jordan Peterson

I know why you're asking

so Jordan Peterson had floated the idea

in a tweet of what was he said he said

he said at least consider judge

Cavanaugh being sworn in to the Supreme

Court and then voluntarily quitting to

rehabilitate his reputation this is with

the Cavanaugh's reputation and then

bring credibility to the Supreme Court

now people like me and other people

questioned that's like whoa how does

that work because it seems to me the

only way this judge can rehabilitate his

reputation is by serving and doing a

good job and ways in which people will

recognize as fair so he has one path for

redemption and he took it which is

getting sworn in hunkering down doing

the work of the people you know and ten

years later we're gonna look at his

rulings and we're gonna say yeah that

was pretty fair and then then you have

something like rehabilitation or at

least partial but quitting would

certainly look guilty to people and me

that looked like a bad idea now to his

credit Jordan Peterson modified

clarified

people would say walk their back I hate

that phrase because sometimes you're

just clarifying your thinking you're not

really walking stuff back that walking

it back feel it just has the wrong

connotation so and he explained it in

the follow-up tweet that it was more a

mental experiment a thought thought

experiment I guess and I thought to

myself I'm okay with that I'm okay with

that

you know remember my rule my 48-hour

rule yeah somebody just said a year the

48-hour rule says that if somebody says

something that's ambiguous or

provocative and people are questioning

it you know did you really mean to say

that they give the person 48 hours to

clarify what they did mean instead of us

trying to put our interpretation on it

and then judging it at the same time

it's just a bad process you don't want

to put your your own interpretation on

somebody's ambiguous statement and then

blame them for your interpretation

because she answers are they're gonna

they're gonna clarify so he said

something that I would say was

provocative it was actually kind of

interesting and that's what a thought

experiment does is it made you think

through ok would that work how would

that work how would that make people

feel maybe think about a complicated

thing that was good and then in the end

you could you could see him sort of

softening his his level of I know the

credibility was putting in his own

thought and that seemed entirely

appropriate because he had thought about

it a little more he got a little more

feedback he clarified well we're just

I'm just putting that out there as a

thought experiment to which I say

clarified clarification accepted all

right

so if you here's my standard if you were

tempted to say when you saw his first

tweet or two on this topic my god Jordan

Peterson I thought he was so smart but

he seems to have lost it because this

latest tweet I totally disagree with I

don't see how this could work that's not

really fair that's what the 48-hour rule

does it allows the person who's the

subject of it in this case

and Peterson to clarify he had 48 hours

to to work out his thinking and put it

out there in the his clearest form and

when he did it was a lot more clear and

then I said okay that's he was thinking

out loud sort of thinking in public now

most people should not think in public

it's probably a bad thing for most you

but he's sort of earned the right to do

that all right not everybody should be

thinking in public it's just a bad look

for most people but Jordan Peterson has

very much earned a little bit of trust

right certainly 48 hours of just to say

all right we didn't like what you said

or how we interpreted it give us give us

a little more on that and then I can

judge he delivered I looked at it I said

that's reasonable he put it out there we

wrestled with it let's move on so that's

how the 48-hour rule works all right

what else is happening now somebody say

he isn't really conservative politically

doesn't matter I don't sue I hate to try

to summarize somebody else's brand you

know an individual but I would say that

Jordan Peterson is pro science if you're

saying he is he is liberal or he's

conservative I feel like you've missed

the whole story correct me if I'm wrong

but I thought Jordan Peterson's brand

was what what makes sense and what could

be supported by the facts and what could

be supported by the science now if that

puts you on sometimes the right and

sometimes on the left and you're arguing

oh he's more lefty than you think or

he's more conservative than you think

you've missed the entire point you know

the entire point of Jordan Peterson is

that he's neither of those things the

moment he's left or the moment he's

right he's useless right

I Jordan Peterson is like a an

international treasure because he's

willing to say the hard stuff you can

disagree with him or you can agree with

him but he does stick to the facts you

can't say that about him you can't say

he just ignores facts you can't say that

he doesn't respond to a better argument

because I think you just watched it in

this very question in this very

situation you saw his his thought

patterns forming right that is very

encouraging to watch somebody change

their mind or maybe more just refine

their thinking in public anybody who can

do that is not conservative and they're

not a liberal there's someone who's

following the logic they're following

the facts so it bothers me when I hear

people say he's just revealing his

secret liberal side or a secret

conservative side it's true that

everybody has bias and it would be it

would be surprising if you know he was

the one person who didn't but he is the

one person who's probably more committed

than anybody I've ever seen except maybe

Dershowitz that's a good example for

following the facts

yeah Dershowitz and Jordan Peterson are

two people I trust to be willing to

disagree with whatever group you think

they're associated with if the facts of

the law and the logic take them

somewhere else

yeah Kanye's off Twitter somebody says

sadly keep in mind that when you're

looking at Kanye you have to think of

the Trump model to understand him now I

don't mean the Trump model in that he's

going to be like Trump and in all the

important ways I don't mean that but you

remember that when Trump did anything

during the candidacy it was the thing

that other people weren't doing and it

was the thing that all the smart people

said you shouldn't do all right

so Trump did all the things that smart

people said he shouldn't do and he made

it work because he was doing things that

worked for Trump right there were things

that wouldn't work

for Biden they went to work for Hillary

but when Trump did Trump Trump can do

Trump better than anybody's ever done

Trump because he is Trump Kanye can do

things that wouldn't work for anybody

else all right so if you were gonna

advise someone who might have their

sights set on the presidency someday you

were to advise them how to go about it

you certainly wouldn't say delete your

Twitter what do you like for the average

person because it would take a long time

to build back the audience people

wouldn't bother signing back on it's

like I was just gonna quit it again but

with Kanye he lives in the state of

continuous creation and you can't create

without destroying so he's a destroyer

slash greater because those two things

are really two sides of the same thing

it's like this yin and yang thing

creation and destruction are inseparable

so when Kanye destroys his social media

he's also creating you can't say that

about other people if a regular

politician destroyed his social media

presence by just deleting all their

accounts that's all that would have

happened they would have taken an asset

that was useful and they would have

destroyed it and you'd say well that's

kind of dumb but Kanye is not other

people when Kanye destroys his social

media presence he's he's you know his

destruction is also his creation for him

they're tied because he's a creator

extraordinaire and the big group in the

in the biggest world

I saw you probably saw the Saturday

Night Live thing where after the show

was closing they cut him off but he was

saying some pro Trump stuff and then I

forget the first name but Davidson is

the the SNL actor who came on and did a

skit mocking Kanye for being on the show

now I have two comments about that first

of all and if anybody knows is it Pete

Davidson okay thank you so Pete Davidson

I didn't know a lot about him I guess he

is dating ariana grande so he's got

something going for him well I didn't

know much about him

I don't watch too much Saturday in their

life but I have to say even though the

things he was saying I completely

disagreed with he is really funny

right you have to do a really good job

in humor to make me laugh when the point

of your humor is so completely

objectionable to me he's really good so

that's my first thing Pete Davidson is a

really funny guy so he made me laugh

when I shouldn't have and that was great

so credit him for extraordinary talent

but one of the things he said is what I

call loser think loser think because one

word loser think and it's the way that

unsuccessful people think no obviously

Pete Davidson is not unsuccessful he's

closer to the definition of successful

but that idea that he put forward was

this that Kanye should stick to music so

what he said was the Kanye's a genius

but that he's a musical genius and that

he should stay in his lane would I be

talking to you right now if I took that

advice all right there are 2000 people

watching me on periscope right now

you've seen you've seen the influence

that I have on on things you've seen how

it's changed you some many of you every

day somebody comes up to me and tells me

how this literally happens every day

that's something I read they something I

wrote that they read either one of my

books usually had to fail at everything

or win Bigley and they'll say it changed

my life I got a promotion I got I got

you know some huge success

from you none of that would happen if I

stayed in my lane president Trump would

not be the president if he stayed in his

Lane he neither would he have been a

golf course

developer neither would he have been a

reality TV star staying in your lane is

just the worst advice you could ever

give someone that you acknowledge to be

a genius all right now it's one thing to

say that Michael Jordan shouldn't play

baseball because that's one of those

situations where you can predict how

that's going to go with enough certainty

that you can say well you know this

probably won't work out and still keep

in mind that Michael Jordan wasn't sure

that he couldn't be a major league

baseball player he didn't know he

thought he could be and he came pretty

close right so I'm still in favor of

Michael Jordan having tried that move

because here's what you don't tell

Michael Jordan stay in your lane all

right even though most of us thought it

wouldn't work out and it worked out

pretty well it just didn't go all the

way you just don't tell a genius and one

thing to not try another thing because

whatever made somebody successful in one

thing probably has some spillover all

right so when you say somebody is a

musical genius and they haven't and the

knock on Kanye is that he hasn't studied

his history enough well there's

something to be said for that I'm not

going to I'm not going to say that you

know Kanye is a historian and I'm not

going to say that I'm a historian either

but Kanye is approaching it from a

creative place and the creativity is

something we haven't seen at a level

that he could provide it even Trump you

know he Trump will get out of any box

you try to put him in

so he'll he'll break every mold but he's

not creative in the same way Trump is

more creative in the sense that he

brings a business persuasion selling set

of tools to a place that didn't have

them

or at least not to that extent Connie it

just brings a whole new thing it's stuff

you haven't seen before so let me put

this a little context I have said very

unpopular ly I have said that I believed

that Obama was a good fit as a president

for the time he was president so he was

a calm voice at a time when we needed

calmness to keep the economy from

falling over the edge probably did the

right stuff or enough of the right stuff

to save the economy so I think Obama was

a good choice it was also sort of time

for a black president in my opinion the

the country sort of as one said yeah

it's just time to do this let's let's

let's check this off because we'll feel

incomplete until we found at least a

black president it feels like you just

got to get past that so I think Obama

was really good fit for those times I

think he would have been a bad fit if he

could have done a 16-year term I think

he would have been a bad fit for a a

rockin economy when things are going

real well you want somebody who will

take a little extra risk because you can

afford a little extra risk when things

are going so screamingly well and that

that best fit is Trump so I think you

can have a different president for each

block of time and you get one that fits

now let's say we get to the point where

the president Trump has the economy just

screaming but yet we can't solve stuff

like health care and you know let's say

opioids are still a big problem we still

have these big problems but we don't

have a money problem think about this

think about how big this thought is

where we're entering the point where the

economy is so strong and we have so many

billionaires who are willing to help

that money isn't a problem for most of

our big problems

it isn't do you know what is the problem

do you know what's lacking what is this

that what is the thing we don't have

to solve the biggest problems in this

country what do we don't have you might

say well we don't have leadership the

Congress or something like that well we

don't have you know a defective Congress

as effective as it needs to be but we

also don't need Congress because

remember I just told you we have all the

money we need there are enough

billionaires who would gladly fund a

good idea what we're missing is a good

idea and I mean that in the general

sense we need better ideas for drug

addiction we need better ideas for

training we need better ideas for a

school we need better ideas for safety

we need better ideas for you know the

urban blight you know once it's clear

down what are you going to put there we

need better ideas for how to be better

to each other

we need better ideas for reducing racism

which of those things does Congress do

you know does Congress come up with good

ideas that's sort of not their job

they're not the right ones so in the

unique situation where your economy is

screaming but you still can't solve your

problems what do you need who do you

need you need somebody like Kanye you

need somebody who's gonna say we got the

money that's great and we couldn't do

anything without it so thank you

President Obama for getting us away from

the ledge and getting us a solid base

thank you president Trump for making

this economy just scream and also

getting rid of most of our external

threats North Korea you know the other

big external threats

if we're in that situation at the end of

Trump's presidency where the economy is

screaming and we don't have external

threats like we used to we just still

have problems and we don't have ideas

what kind of a president do you need do

you need an Obama know you wouldn't be

the right fit do you need another Trump

like Trump to the whoever is the closest

to Trump

probably not probably not if everything

is going well

you might need somebody who can change

the national mind you know somebody who

can who can add diversification to the

way were thinking so before you dismiss

Kayne for not being like other

presidents are or like people we expect

to be President

just consider that that's not what he's

offering he's offering the thing we

don't have and we need nobody's offered

that before who's the other who's the

other politician who's offered that

level of creative destruction and

remember creation and destruction can't

separate them if you do it right and

Kanye does it right he'll be he brings

the destruction along with the the

construction all right

am i predicting president Kanye West

well the minimum requirement for

predicting that would be how serious he

gets it would be hard to bet against

Kanye if he was if he was just full-on

I'm gonna make this happen there just

some people that are hard to bet against

and he's one of them yeah Rand Paul I

see the name going by in the comments

Rand Paul's reputation is sky-high with

me right now

so Rand Paul is on my my good list by

far I've talked about North Korea

already Oh have we so the latest from

North Korea is that apparently North

Korea has agreed to to work on the

details of letting people come in and

well I have to have to show you this

so North Korea is working on the details

of letting inspectors come in which I

don't know I don't think the critics

ever thought we would get to that point

but I want to show you a picture that I

tweeted right before it was announced

that good things are happening there

and I don't know how well you'll be able

to see this but here's a picture of

Pompeii oh darn it you can only go the

wrong way so apparently I've managed to

get my phone in a mode where it can only

go the wrong way here we go so see look

at the smiles on these two guys I think

you can see it look at the way they're

looking at each other now ask yourself

this is this the way you look at each

other when you haven't made decisions on

the big stuff would would Pompeo have

that expression if he was still

negotiating hard on the important stuff

maybe you know maybe this is when you're

reading body language and smiles and

stuff like that this is this is not hard

science in the sense that we can just

look at them and we're smart so we know

what they're thinking well I'll tell you

when I saw that I said to myself it

looks like the deal is done and I don't

mean the details the details could take

another you know three years to work out

but the main the main thing which is

denuclearization and are we can have

inspectors to watch it happen it looks

to me those two expressions I'll tell

you what I thought when I saw those

expressions I said to myself this is

here are two people who can't wait to

tell you a secret they have a really

good news and they can't wait to tell

you but they're they can't tell you yet

because you have to work through the

system probably there'll be something

announced of major import when Kim comes

to the United States what could be a

better time to announce something than

Kim coming to the United States standing

in the White House in the Oval Office

and and making a deal now I believe I

believe that the the thing that's going

to break the log jam is an agreement to

end the

or is it a war I forget this technical

word for it but the so there's this

standing state of at least in a legal

sense there's a standing state of war in

the Korean Peninsula and North Korea has

asked that we change that I'm not sure

if that's the UN or that's the United

States Congress but either one is doable

and I thought to myself that is exactly

the right thing for Kim to ask for

because he should at least make it a

little bit difficult for a president to

try to attack North Korea and one way to

do that is for the countries involved to

change their own laws to get out of a

state of war because if you're in the

state of war the president has all kinds

of flexibility and if you're not in the

state of war the president's going to

have to work pretty hard to get you into

the state of war so it makes complete

sense that North Korea is asking for a

declaration of an end of hostilities and

a completely reasonable thing to ask at

this point and it's completely

reasonable that we held off on that

until we had some commitment to get the

nuclear to get the nuclear

denuclearization alright how is Kim

going to unbraid wash his people quite a

project he's already started so

apparently the propaganda in the north

has shifted from we need these nukes to

you know be a great country too we used

our nukes to end the war so Kim has the

best he just has a perfect setup for

transitioning this from the worst-case

scenario to the best-case scenario

you've never seen a better setup because

he can say I built these nukes and

that's why that's why the United States

came to the table I became a peer with

China I became a peer with the United

States I became up here with South Korea

and that was necessary in order to get

negotiation on an even playing field so

that we could all be adults and we could

get this done as long as those other

countries were teaching treating us like

children we couldn't get it down

but now that were equals we got a deal

that story is if I were a North Korean

and I heard that story I would say that

actually sounds pretty good

he we built our nukes it got us at the

end of the war I got his prosperity we

don't need the nukes anymore they did

what they needed to do that's a great

story and indeed I've said that Kim

would deserve a at least to share a

Nobel Peace Prize if he if he pulls this

through and I would like to see him get

that actually all right that's all for

now and I'm going to talk to you later