Episode 3068 ChattingWSA 01/10/26

sort of live and if any of you can see me that would be amazing.

So I can see some of you.

Uh the trick here is if you all pretend you're all in my living room.

So this is Shelly Adams for those of you who have not yet met her.

And uh now I know how early I have to get up.

There does seem to be no way that I can figure out how to get all the right people up here.

So, let's see how many people we can get.

This will be an adventure.

How shall they say something so we know they can hear you?

>> Can you hear me?

>> Looks like it might work.

The problem will be getting extra people up here.

So, that would be the problem.

Let's see.

How about we make it?

Excuse me loud and clear.

Well, if you can hear me loud and clear, you can probably hear her because we're the same microphone and same camera.

So, I would like to start out with happy birthday, Mike.

So, we're trying to get everything together.

It's a birthday for a regular Mike Bert.

50 years old today.

We could not say goodbye.

All right.

So, um, in case you didn't know the importance of Shelly, she will be the, uh, head of the estate and the boss of everything.

And I think she had a few words to give you about what role will be going forward.

Ready for that?

Let's do that.

>> Good morning, everybody.

Um, yes.

I'm Shelley.

I don't know if Scott wants to introduce me as, but I am his ex.

>> First ex.

>> First ex.

Um, I'm just want to tell you a little bit about myself.

Um, and I'm going to start by first of all, I want to just start by saying this is not my world.

Social media is not my world.

Um, >> had be my world.

the uh All right.

>> So, this I want to first of all thank Nicole yesterday, the shy one with the glasses that Scott kept pointing out because that's probably me times two.

Um so, thank you Nicole for giving me the courage to get on here this morning.

Um just a little bit about myself.

Um before Scott, I um worked in the corporate office in Foster City as a retirement specialist before having kids.

Um I started working for Scott in 2003.

Um, my main job, I would say, would be to gather all his Dilbert subscribers, um, email ideas of their crazy workplace stories.

Um, they would send in all these great stories to give him inspiration for the comic strip.

Um, I kind of pulled them all together, tried to weed out the really good ones.

um put them together for him and uh so that he could quickly just look at them and um get his idea for the day.

So that was my main job among a lot of other jobs.

Um, I did get my real estate license um after uh we split up.

Um, and I pursued that real estate and property management and that was very successful.

Um, but I continued to be in Scott's life the entire time.

We were we're we're best friends.

So, um, that that continued.

Um, I have a beautiful daughter, Savannah.

Um, who when Scott and I met, she was only five years old.

Um, he helped raise her and, um, she just got married last year.

She, uh, got married to Jacob and they are, I now have a son-in-law and hoping someday had to have grandchildren.

Um, they're the perfect together.

Um I'm married, remarried and um I been with my husband for going going on 12 years.

Um we waited until 10year anniversary and we decided to have a big backyard wedding.

So um it was beautiful.

Um, he came with two bonus sons.

So, I have two more sons.

And, um, I just want to give a shout out to him, to my husband Pat, for understanding and being so supportive of my relationship with Scott through all the years and through going through this with him.

Um, but I have the biggest job ahead of me, which is now to keep Scott's legacy alive.

And I'm going to need the help of all of you guys to do that.

And I know you've supported him all these years.

And he loves you guys.

And I know you're going to support me to keep his legacy going.

And that's I think that's all I wanted to say.

The short version of that is that she's the new or well she's she had the job that Owen has making sure that you know things run smoothly on this end and only in the sense that she was picking out good stories for me and uh now Owen is the picker.

So Shel is the boss of all bosses.

So I'm having increasing trouble talking and obviously I have no no mobility.

So without Shelly this operation would come to a halt and she is the person I trust the most in the entire world.

Now one of the things I like about Shelly uh is that no matter how scary something is she is unwanted.

So that's one of the most impressive things about her that we don't know what we're doing right now, but and that never stops her.

So we'll we'll work through this one way or another.

Now, what I was hoping to do, as most of you know, is convert from Coffee with Scott Adams to more of a um we'll figure it out as we go, but we're moving toward a situation where Wow.

I have to tell you, I've never been on this many drugs before in my life.

I had a I had a tough time with the uh uh cough last night and so I'm just absolutely loaded up with a with meds.

All legal.

Every bit of it is illegal.

Um so the hardest thing I was trying to do is get uh other people invited up.

So I'm going to see if I can do that.

But as soon as people can talk, uh, you can just go ahead and talk.

So if there's something to ask, something to add, and you could talk about the news or you could talk about this or you could have >> I think we just accept them.

>> We could accept all, right?

>> We'll just accept a few for now.

>> Well, I should make sure we're accepting Owen and Erica.

>> Okay.

and maybe Marcela.

So, if we get a few friendlies up here, it'll be a different experience.

And I still don't see >> Is that Owen up there?

Let me see that >> Rowan.

>> No, we're looking through a list of known people.

All right, here we go.

We've got invitations.

>> >> Why isn't we?

Well, so far nobody's accepted.

That's why.

>> Well, I think we have to accept them, don't we?

First to accept them in >> Yeah, but how do we know which ones to accept?

>> You just look at their names.

>> Oh, except right here.

>> Which one?

We know.

>> And then, >> wait, it didn't work.

Didn't work.

>> Didn't work.

>> You did not accept.

All right.

So Josh Joshua.

>> Yeah, >> hold on.

Joshua.

So right now I'm accepting known people.

Um, we got two.

And who else >> is that?

Marcella.

No, >> that's Malcolm.

Okay.

Um, Um, all right.

Eric Burch, we got Mike Burella.

Here we go.

All right.

Now that Owen or I >> haven't seen Owen yet, so we'll go with this.

Let's see.

I have you all.

What do I want of you all when I've accepted only some?

Oh, so difficult to figure out.

All right.

>> Do we have to turn that on?

>> I think that's why she turns on.

All right.

We're in auto in theory.

All right, there's Marcela.

There's Joshua.

So, any of you Joshua, Marcela, if you turn on your microphones, we should be able to see you.

Hear you?

>> Can any of you talk right now?

>> Good morning, Scott.

Hey, by the way, why am I so pathetic and turning on microphones?

You're the one who had to turn it on, right?

>> Yeah, we have to we have to manually turn on our own uh turn on our own microphones here.

>> We got company.

>> Hey, Summer, you want to say hi to Scott?

You want to say hi?

Say Scott and Shelly.

Hey, >> this is Summer.

>> Hey, Summer.

>> Did you happen to check the news this morning?

>> Did you happen to check the news THIS MORNING, HONEY?

>> YEAH.

>> YEAH.

OH, kid getting a hold of the phone.

She wants to do some reading.

Yes.

Little cameo from Summer.

Thank you.

It's a pleasure to meet you, Shel.

Thank you for joining.

That was a heartfelt introduction.

We're so glad to have you as the as the protector of this community and the guide for us all.

>> Thank you.

>> So, um, did anybody happen to catch any news?

Has Iran fallen yet?

>> No.

>> Still standing and they're being defiant.

They're threatening to fight back really hard right now.

>> Now, I can't hear Marcela.

Is that because you have your mic off or I do?

on your mic.

>> Sorry, I didn't see the the mute button.

Good morning.

Good morning, Shel.

Thank you for being here.

>> You're you're amazing.

Um, no, it will fall.

Um, and I'll tell you why.

Um, the main reason is that in the previous um protest, it was just the youth that were protesting, women.

But what he's lost, Kamini has lost support of the middle and upper class, the star class.

And that is uh what keeps him going with funding and money.

Um so yesterday made a speech to the nation to tell them that whatever they were doing was against the law and against God.

And basically that means that anybody could be shot on the spot and executed for protesting, but people are still going out doing it.

It's been 46 years.

They are tired.

They just want to do it.

And I think what pushes them is Trump, you know, knowing that they have Trump there.

But I'll let everybody else speak.

>> So, we don't know how to add Owen yet.

In theory, um, let me get back to that, Russell.

In theory, if we add Owen, but he doesn't turn on his camera, he can be anonymous.

Is that true?

Still figuring out how to add him.

>> I told Owen that he could wear a mask.

>> Oh my god, that's Sergio.

That's mean.

Hey Scott.

>> Hi.

>> Hi my bird.

Josh.

>> Hey sir.

>> That's awesome.

Oh >> so you we're talking to right.

>> Yes.

That's me right now.

>> So >> so I was telling Noah he could wear a mask like the mask uh Avenger or something you know.

>> >> Well, I spent like an hour last night talking to Erica trying to figure out how to add a person.

And unfortunately, she was using instructions from Grock.

Now, I don't know if you've ever tried to get instructions from Grock about anything about anything, but it's near impossible.

and it has very specific instructions, but it's about menus that don't exist.

Have you had that same experience?

It starts out with, "All right, uh, use the main community button and I'll go to the place, it'll be no main community button." And you could look all day for the main community button and it won't be there.

And then somebody says, "Yes, but Rock says it's there, but it's never there.

It's never there." So I have to figure that.

The one and only way I can get instructions on doing that is if somebody else who knows how to do it goes page by page and takes a screenshot and then eventually you hit that that person does not have the most current version.

>> Mhm.

So there is nowhere on earth exists a set of instructions to do what I want.

And then we and then with good luck we discover it.

But it's in a completely odd weird place that you could never find anything.

So, so we got Sergio.

Um, but how do I get All right, let's see if I can get Owen on my phone.

He might already be there.

>> You look amazing.

>> Well, you're too nice.

>> What we look is stupid because we can't do the dumb thing.

But you can't it's hard to get advice because nobody else looks like the host.

So >> is my book on here?

>> What about >> birthday my >> Hey guys, how's it going?

>> Mo is here too.

Happy birthday.

>> It's my birthday.

>> It's his birthday.

So, >> wait.

So, that's Mike Bur.

>> Yeah.

>> Oh, okay.

>> Good to see you.

This is very much like hanging out in your own home and you don't know what to do.

What do I do now?

>> Pardon me.

I'm going to drop out so that other people can join and I'm going to focus on my kids here.

It was a pleasure again to hear from you this morning, Shelly.

Thank you so much.

Scott, thank you.

I love you.

And all three of my kids have grown up hearing your voice.

You're like kind of the internet uncle, so to speak, that your voice is familiar to all of them even before they were born.

And they'll be hearing you for the rest of their lives in one way or another.

Scott, thank you.

You're welcome.

>> All right.

Thank you.

>> All right.

Who's So Owen is waiting for host approval, but do you see >> Scott?

This is Sarah.

Sarah B88 is my local's name, but I discovered yesterday that my Rumble name is separate and I can't change it, so that's why probably nobody knows who I am.

Anyway, uh so I'm going to go ahead and drop out, but I just want to say hey and so glad to see you today and hope you're hope you're doing better and we're all thinking about you and praying for you.

>> >> See, my problem is I'm too popular because I have to find a name in a list of a thousand and then specifically approve it and there's no search function.

So, how about this?

How about everybody drop out except for Owen?

See if that works.

There's a waiting room.

>> Yeah, but I don't think we can.

>> So, there's only two places that could people could be waiting room and participants.

If I go to the waiting room.

Sorry, you have to put up with this.

Is there anybody whose sound is still on who can tell something about the news?

Has Trump done anything interesting?

No, nothing interesting.

Can you see me?

Can you hear me?

>> I can see and hear you in the waiting room.

>> Okay.

>> But we don't see Owen, who we're sure is here.

Boy, if you can put up with this, you can put up with anything.

I'll be done.

Required approvals.

Don't require approval.

So, there's a problem with the waiting room.

There's just too many people.

Is that what's going on?

I feel like I could approve.

Oh, and if I could find them in a gigantic list, come on, baby.

Now I know why Dave Rubin uses two people to do this.

Well, >> do you want him just to call us and we can include him his voice?

>> Uh, we can try that.

So, Owen Owen Owen, why don't you just call me on my um text number?

You will not be seen, but you will be heard.

>> >> How hard is it to tell somebody where a button is?

But it's hard whether there's a third a thousand people.

Owen must not be here.

All right.

Well, all right.

Something's coming in.

Oh, really?

He called.

It went a voicemail.

>> Why don't we try calling him?

>> All right, here we go.

>> Good morning, Scott.

Good morning, Shel.

>> Good morning.

>> Good morning, Owen.

Can everybody hear you?

>> I hope so.

>> All right, we're going to go back to the show view and give us a sign.

Wait a minute.

>> If everyone can hear me.

>> So, we're not we're not looking at um >> we're just listening to >> Yeah, we're just listening.

So we can bring more people back up in the screen.

>> Right.

You are correct.

So we're going to view all we're gonna once he's there participants Sergio and Mike Bird are invisible.

And all right, Owen, since you're going to be on the whole time, at least your voice will be, maybe you could lead us off and uh Oh, there's Marcelo.

There was way to see her.

So, Owen, did you uh make some notes of the news today?

>> I did.

Let me pull them up.

We want to start with the simultaneous sip.

>> Yes, we do.

>> Sure to do that.

>> Yes, we do.

>> We would like to do that.

>> But you're going to lead us.

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simultaneous set.

Go >> go.

Boy, that was a struggle.

So, in no particular order, is there some uh stories or stories you want to cue us up on?

>> Uh, there's plenty.

Um, I I think as far as Iran goes, I think it was correct that they're still having their protests.

The crown prince has issued a bunch of messages on X.

Um, sort of a rallying cry.

So, he's definitely claiming he wants to return and wants people to keep protesting.

Um I think the ayatollah and the regime is threatening execution and saying that um protesters are ruining the streets >> to please Trump.

That's what comes.

>> He's warning of a crackdown.

>> So they have >> they have no public bathrooms and gigantic crowds.

>> I always wonder what happens in those situations.

>> Yeah.

I don't know.

It's it seems like it's spreading across the country, but it's hard to know what's real and what's propaganda.

Um, I don't know if you have a view on that, but it it does seem to me, as I think you pointed out before, that there's, you know, what you hear when there's something like a color revolution going on and it's all one-sided and it's all painting a narrative, but what's actually happening in the country, especially when the internet's cut off and there's not a lot of information flow, um, is highly in question, I think.

Wow.

>> It's pretty well understood at this point.

That is not organic, right?

Or is it?

Is it organic?

>> I'm not sure I believe that any protests are organic anymore.

>> Yeah, that that's where I'm at.

I don't believe any of these are real.

>> Yeah.

And um for other international news, uh Trump is certain still saying he wants to go after Greenland and he's going to take it whether they like it or not.

And he he made a statement that he'll either do it the easy way or the hard way.

Uh he's floating an idea of paying each citizen of Greenland $100,000 to essentially buy the country.

>> Really?

>> Mhm.

So, so every single citizen would get $100,000 if >> Yeah.

There aren't that many of them.

>> 30,000 I think.

>> Something like that.

Yeah.

>> Wow.

>> Denmark is not budging so far.

They're claiming they won't give it up even if the US nukes them.

That's the statement they made.

>> So, they jumped right to nuclear war.

and they're saying it would threaten NATO and um so Denmark is certainly unhappy about the situation.

I know there's some meeting coming up, it might be happening now with Marco Rubio um meeting with Denmark.

So there is some kind of I guess discussion or negotiation that's queued up to happen.

>> But Trump doesn't seem to want to back down and I don't really see him backing down.

Do you >> at this point?

No.

Um, what is China threatening?

>> Nothing, right?

>> I don't think so.

China's mostly been sitting this stuff out.

I think they're probably still um upset about Venezuela.

I don't remember.

I don't know if you remember um they literally had a bunch of diplomats in Venezuela when the raid happened.

And they were making they were there to make some kind of oil deal or something.

And I think there's certainly a lot of speculation that the motivation raid was to deprive Russia and China of oil.

>> Oh well, that's not too scary.

How much how much oil were they going to get from Denmark anyway?

>> Well, Russia and China have been making deals to get oil from Venezuela.

So, I'm kind of switching topics, but >> Oh, okay.

>> But I think the the direction now seems to be that Trump is sending a bunch of tankers to go get the oil, and he's claiming that we're going to get something like 30 to 50 million barrels of oil.

There was a story I posted today that it could be that we could refill our entire strategic petroleum reserve of oil just from Venezuela.

>> Really?

So, um, Marcela, turn on your microphone.

>> Yes.

>> You're a local expert on Iceland.

>> Yes, I am.

>> So, what will be the impact on Iceland if uh Greenland goes America?

>> No, I've been to Greenland as well.

Um I think it's it's a big deal for them um because the fisheries and the oil that is in the ocean in that area.

Um so Iceland's always been a friendly country to America.

They were used to have a um like a military base there since like I think they moved it in 2006.

But anyways, um I think what Trump is doing is negotiating.

Um you know, he puts the first offer, which is I'm going to take Greenland and no matter what.

Um but I think that they're probably negotiating something with Denmark.

I can see that happening.

Um basically, it would be the best for Greenland for the US to take over for them.

They have a lot of issues and Denmark has never really uh supported them.

Um they even say that they've always been threatened by Denmark, the Greenlanders.

Um recently, a year or two years ago, they were told that if they didn't follow what Greenland what Denmark wanted that they would take away their free Medicare and free uh education.

So that's the main thing that they want to keep.

I think if Trump would offer that to them or some kind of money offer, I think that they would be willing to take it.

It would be best for Greenland.

Greenland has issues with alcoholism, suicide, and they're basically stagnant.

There's no industries, um, mostly tourism, and you know, now and again.

But it it you know Trump is like the hero um in my mind you know with Venezuela with Iran and now with Greenland.

Greenlanders just aren't aware you know I think that he needs to the propaganda is European propaganda is very strong.

>> I didn't know European propaganda was strong at all.

I thought they had a weak weak.

>> What I don't understand is that it seems like Greenland is just a big money sync.

Like, as I understand it, there's bunch of money that Denmark pays to Greenland every year just to maintain the infrastructure and to protect it.

And they don't even really do much protection.

So, it seems like it's just a big expense on their budget every year.

And I don't know what benefit they get from it.

And strategically it certainly has value to America, but I don't know what value it has to Denmark.

>> Well, then I think we should talk about something else.

How about we let How about we let in uh as many people as we can and uh since Owen has an open line all the time.

He can either introduce some technology stuff or uh or not.

Mike, what is the what is the most interesting tech thing that's happening today?

It's still CES, right?

What >> Owen, I think um Scott wanted to ask you a question.

>> Yeah.

Owen, what what's happening that's not not about international affairs necessarily, but just something interesting that uh you found in the news today?

>> Well, Trump made a bunch of interesting statements today.

Um, one is that he wants to limit credit card interest rates to 10%.

Um, another recent announcement he made was that he wants uh I I forget which agency, but he they're going to buy something like $200 billion in mortgage bonds.

And I think that was meant to reduce interest rates.

So, he's taking a pretty heavy step towards trying to push down mortgage rates to make them more affordable.

>> Do you think that'll work?

I think it I mean it the story I read certainly said that it would have an impact it would be likely to have an impact by buying all these mortgage bonds because you'd be you know on the market.

>> How many people understand buying mortgage bonds?

>> Probably very few.

All right.

Um, is the CES over consumer electronic show?

>> I I think it might still be going on, although it might be wrapping up.

I'm not sure really tracking when it ends.

>> I feel I feel like it was the the disappointing show of electronics.

Once again, somebody's got a robot that can do one thing, but if you had it, you'd be unhappy because your robot only does one thing.

>> Yeah, there certainly was.

I think from the stories I saw from there, there was a lot of robots.

There was a lot of AI.

I think a lot of the AI was kind of disappointing or, you know, not ideal use cases for AI.

So it seems like they that was a bit of a dis a letdown.

Um there certainly was a lot of hype around the robots.

Um so your robot butler idea, your prediction may or may not come true.

You know, I'm interested like you said earlier about whether the LG robot will live up to the hype.

Um, but it does seem like there's like maybe even half a dozen humanoid robots that are at least being shown as something that might go on sale this year.

>> If you want to let more people in, we can.

We can go view them.

>> Or few more people.

>> You can accept anybody you want.

Whoops.

>> Whoops.

>> I think everybody's accepted now.

And there's an auto mode.

So in theory view all >> I think if we just accept some of these.

>> It's very it's hard to know if they're already accepted.

>> All right, we're going to let in a bunch of people.

See what happens.

um invite participants.

Well, in theory, in theory, there are new people being invited right now as we speak.

>> They just have to turn on their >> what?

>> They have to turn on their camera.

>> Okay.

If anybody wants to join and turn on the camera.

There we go.

>> Who we got here?

Hi, Scott.

My name is Anthony.

>> Hey, what's up?

>> Not much, man.

I love you so much.

I've been listening to you for like 10 years when I was like 21 or something.

You've helped me so much.

Job promotions, now engaged to a fiance, just your reframes, all those things, man.

All those little lessons, talent stack.

I can't thank you enough.

>> That's what I want to hear.

Is that >> Christina here calling in from France?

>> So are you from France?

You said >> calling in from France.

Yes.

Listening to you for the 10 years at least.

What an honor.

How what an emotional moment.

I am also Venezuelan by birth, legal naturalized US citizen.

So I do have an interesting perspective about what's going on in Venezuela at the moment.

Give give us your perspective.

Well, a lot of people, a lot of Venezuelans are have always been, it's probably 50/50, pro.

Trump and very much against and uh the against have been calling us the Maguelans in a porative way and they are all now coming around to being very grateful to President Trump for for what he has done for the country.

Of course, the first reaction was that everyone wanted Marcina in and everyone was like, "WTF?

Why is she not the the president as she should be rightfully?" But uh more and more of the thinkers of the country have been coming around and actually commenting very publicly that Trump is doing exactly the right thing because Maria Korina would not have in not even remotely the possibility of commanding the the military or any kind of the of the remaining institutions of the country to to bring order back into the country.

So from the Venezuelan perspective, everyone is extremely happy and grateful to the United States and in particular to President Trump.

>> Wow.

So how long has it been that people were pro.

Trump?

>> Well, a lot.

It's a little bit like the Cubans.

Venezuelans have been suffering.

Socialism has been suff suffering at the hands of of leftist ideology.

So, so most people are are not buying any of the nonsense of of the left.

Um, having said that, you do get a little bit of of what traditionally uh Latin America has a little bit of a of a leftist heart.

So, so there's that conflict.

However, Venezuelans have experienced in their own flesh what it is to be to be under the the boot of of communism.

So, so automatically you you are on the right.

>> Well, what's your take on Europe in general and backing?

>> Right.

Um, a little bit more about me.

I'm actually a graduate of the Harvard Kennedy School of Government and um and I think I am the only one of my classmates that is actually a registered Republican and has voted for Trump three times.

I have constant battles with my my friends from that time and and everyone is of course in the in the academic elite where where they have this democrat superiority.

In terms of Europe, um my husband's German and I have been living in Germany for for several years now.

Um the it's difficult because on the one hand Europeans mostly see what's happening in terms of the problems with immigration and and the the decline in in the culture.

However, there is, at least in Germany, where I live, there is this um knee-jerk reaction against a party like the AfD um because of course of of Germany's past.

It's it's it's difficult to say.

I I have friends in in different levels in different of the of the levels of society and and and the people the the the handyman the people you talk on the street they have no qualms in saying they vote AFD and and it's it's nonsense what the elites are doing to to the people of Germany as a country.

You still have, of course, the elites saying, "Oh my god, the AFD, no way.

It's fascism and we can all go that way again and our history and this and that." So, so, so I I don't know.

I think Europe needs to sink a little bit deeper before it really realizes and and it may be too late.

I hope not.

>> Do you think uh that France will become an Islamic country?

>> H difficult.

We also lived in France.

I'm I'm vacationing in France at the moment with my family.

Um, you know, it it is so difficult.

You I I don't know what to say.

I I really hope not.

It's um um Europe has changed.

Whether they will make a U-turn and pull the handbreak in time, who knows?

>> I'm I'm I'm glad to be an American.

That's all I can say.

Well, we're glad to have you.

>> It's so wonderful to be able to be a part of this.

Such an honor.

Scott, I love you.

It's um Thank you, Shalley, by the way, for being there.

It's It's a Wow.

I It was a very emotional simultaneous sip this morning.

Thank you, Owen, for that.

>> Yeah.

Thanks, Owen.

>> Thank you, Owen.

>> Glad to do it.

Let's uh bring you back in, Owen.

Is there any new tech news or anything we wouldn't be watching while we're being distracted by all this international stuff?

>> Let me look through my tech stories.

Uh I think >> I don't know how interesting it is, but there's a change in the FCC.

They're going to allow higher powered Wi-Fi.

really >> it's going to be able to operate outdoors at higher power.

>> How much of a difference is that going to make >> saying it's I mean it it's this new 6 gigahertz band that they're going to allow and I think it's supposed to support things like AR and VR short range hotspots automation and indoor navigation.

um it doesn't really quantify how much stronger it is, but I know there have been restrictions on that and some people complain about that certainly inside their homes.

Um I have that problem where you know I have my Wi-Fi router in my basement and it doesn't get into most of my house so I have to add more Wi-Fi spots.

Um and even then it's it's spotty in places.

So, I'm kind of looking forward to this to being able to put a really highowered Wi-Fi in my house.

Maybe it'll cause cancer, but might be worth it.

>> Maybe that's what got me.

You never know.

>> I hope not.

Yeah.

>> You know, one of the things when you get cancer, you go around thinking, "What did I do?

What did I do?" But then I remind myself that for men, the type I have is the uh you the most common one.

So if if I got the most common one, it's hard to complain that it was because of some special case.

>> Yeah.

I mean, I I've heard a lot about prostate cancer.

I know it is very common in men.

I certainly hope to avoid it, but I've from what I've heard, a lot of the cases are I don't want to call them benign, but they're kind of contained within the prostate.

And >> um you don't even really need to treat it, but I know I've heard that almost every man that reaches a certain age will probably have some level of prostate cancer.

>> Um so it certainly is a very common condition.

>> I think he just got really unlucky, got the aggress aggressive kind.

Marcel, you have a very good book behind you.

Over your left shoulder.

What is that book?

>> Wonder who wrote it.

>> How fell almost everything is so big.

>> Can you see my cat?

He's down there.

>> Oh, yes, I can see.

>> Diego.

He's shy.

He's named after Diego Mando Maradona, the soccer player, because he likes to fight.

>> All right.

>> Do we have any else that would like to come in?

>> I believe it's his birthday.

>> Hi guys.

>> It's good to be here.

Thank you for having me on, Scott.

Um, it's been a long time and thank you for everything.

I just wanted to say appreciate you.

Love you.

It's been crazy 10 years and uh yeah, just thanks for making me part of your community and giving me a special place and and I did my best to fulfill the mission and uh I'm going to keep going here.

Whoever is going to tolerate me, I'll keep doing it.

So, here I am.

So, here's to you, Scott.

Thank you very much for everything.

>> It's your birthday today.

Is that what you said?

Yeah, I'm 50 today.

>> Happy birthday.

That's a big one.

>> Yeah, it is a big one.

So, >> just thanks for having me on.

I'm going to uh sign off now.

I just wanted to say my peace and keep on watching and posting some memes now.

It's been weird that I haven't been wondering what do my thumbs right now and I listen to you and and here we are.

So, I'm going to sign off.

So, thank you.

I'll talk to everyone later.

if I would I would interject a story that I posted today that I think is good news.

Um might be a little sensitive for the two of you, Scott and Shel, but um fentinel deaths have dropped in the US significantly.

It was over 100,000 a year and now it's at 81,000 in 2024.

And um they're crediting Biden's era as far as you know it happened during his term, but I think a lot of that had to do with Trump in terms of putting pressure on China and it looks like they're chalking it up to a supply disruption during the pandemic >> that the supply of the precursor chemicals got disrupted somehow and that may have caused a lot less supply to come into the US.

And I certainly think Trump had a lot to do with that and I think you had a lot to do with that.

So I think you deserve some credit for putting pressure on the administration and putting pressure on China.

>> Good.

It seems like it won't take long to uh fix the distribution problem, but it's a start.

>> Mhm.

>> And who do we have down here?

Is it Peter?

>> Yes, this is uh Peter.

I just wanted to say thank you for all the years.

I'm uh here managing two kids and the dog right now as they build train tracks.

Um but I've been listening to you for pretty much all 10 years.

Sorry the odd camera angles as I try to keep my kids faces off camera.

Um but I uh I'll go off camera.

Um, but I'll finish I'll finish just audio.

I've been listening to for 10 years pretty much every single day.

And there's a there's a point at which I I tried to stop listening to you because I thought, you know, I need to I need to diversify who I'm listening to, you know, listen to different podcasts, etc., etc.

And I just I couldn't I couldn't quit you, Scott.

Um, I kept on coming back and listening to you pretty much every single day.

I I every every uh Spotify your year wrapped was sort of boring because it was I was always in the top 0.1% of listeners to the Scott Adams podcast.

Um, and it's been it's been amazing to be with you over the past 10 years.

And I just wanted to, you know, thank you for always being true to yourself, not allowing yourself to be bought by any any interest or any sponsor or um any any media company.

And I think I think I speak for a lot of people that that's one of the things that has kept us coming back over the past 10 years is it always felt whether we agreed with you on everything or didn't agree with you on everything, I never had a doubt that you were saying your actual opinion um pretty much all the time.

So I I very much appreciate that and uh I I'm very appreciative of yeah just your commitment and consistency and and your virtual friendship over the past 10 years.

And with that, I'm going to get back to the kids building choo choo trains.

>> Well, you got your priorities straight.

>> I like it.

>> Let's see.

>> Going to go wide here.

I wonder how long it will take me to learn this.

Do we have anybody else that would like to I still want to say something, but I don't know if it's a good time or not.

>> Go ahead.

>> Okay.

Um, well, thank you, Scott, for um I'm getting to talk to you right now.

I always thought that I was going to get to to see you someday uh in person, but I'm I'm doing it, you know, through this and I'm very happy and I'm so happy to meet Shelly and that's an an amazing testament of uh your awesomeness that uh your your ex is there for you right now.

I love that, you know, because u not anybody can can develop that relationship afterwards and and that's amazing that you did that.

So, thank you very much.

And um and and yeah, you you taught me that free will is not is an illusion and that's the one the most important thing because now I know that everything around me is affecting my behavior all the time.

So, I need to watch out for my uh surroundings.

And um that's why you are half of my five people basically.

And I don't know what I'm going to do, you know, without you because I I'm like a lot of you right now.

And um I'm going to learn to be more like like like uh everybody else, too.

So, thank you very much.

And hey, is that Gary?

>> That's Roman.

>> Roman.

>> Roman.

Hi, Roman.

Well, that's it, Scott.

Thank you very much.

And uh and any advice ever that you have for me or anything, let me know.

Thank you.

>> So, you know, you're the best.

You know, there's a half a dozen people who regularly participate and when I don't see all of you, I get disappointed.

And uh there there's something more than the news that has developed here.

And the part I didn't anticipate is the bonding and the ability to feel like you're part of something.

And I think that worked.

It wasn't a top priority or anything.

But once it started being a a thing, that's the part that seems to be the most powerful.

So over time, we will put on more of a, you know, why did you learn?

How did you learn it?

And but at the moment it feels appropriate that we're still struggling along and that the struggle is about you know how do you make the technology work in a way that uh works for everybody.

So um I hope you can see uh I hope you can see the uh all the work that gets put into just trying to make this work.

I I swear to God this is probably easy but not to me.

And I'll say again uh that um the amount of pharmaceutical drugs I had to put into me yesterday so that I could function.

It's the most I remember it.

And just to give you example, >> I've got a password that is very easy.

You know, it's not any kind of weird crazy password, but with the help of a nurse and about 25 attempts, uh, I could I could I could tell her what I wanted.

And the funny thing was I couldn't spell it.

So, my password has >> Let's not talk about your password.

>> Yes.

tell us your passwords right now, please.

>> Yeah, let's let's not talk about your password too much.

>> That's why she's here.

I'll just simplify it to say uh it should have been really really easy.

But but it went like I'm making this up so you can't really use it.

It'd be like something like I would say, "All right, the first part is squirrel." And then I try to spell it.

It'd be like P J squirrel.

A and squirrel.

It was the damnest thing.

I've never been that hallucinogenic.

>> That's awesome, Scott.

You deserve the best uh military grade drugs.

>> All right, we're go back.

>> Thank you very much.

I'm going to log off now.

I'm gonna have others jump in.

Thank you, Scott, for everything.

some more.

>> All right.

I don't know what that means.

>> Just hit accept.

Accept.

See if anybody else wants to >> jump in.

>> Jump in.

>> So, let's check is >> we got some new people.

>> Can I make one more comment?

Um, you've been explaining the world to me for the past 10 years, Scott, and and I am quite intimidated at the prospect of not having those daily explanations.

And I'm hoping that this community that you created will somehow step in when you're not there to to help understand what's happening in the world.

I mean, I hope you have trained all of us uh to to continue to do that.

What do you say, Shellyley?

>> Oh, I think we did miss a little bit of your the beginning of your u some technical issues here, but um yes, we would I would love to keep this going.

And you know, again, we're not techsavvy here.

We hope that we can figure this all out and make this a little bit more smoother process.

But I think he's got some great people uh community here that I think could lead this um if we can figure out if we can figure out how the technology of it.

Um >> yeah.

Yeah.

The beginning of it was that Scott's been explaining the world to me for the past 10 years and and it is quite daunting to the prospect of not having those those daily lessons of of exactly what everything means and what's going on.

And and again, I'm hoping that this this community of of of people that you have trained over the past years will will step in and and I guess selfishly continue to help me do that.

I hope so.

I I really I really think I think we could do it.

>> Might take a little time, but I think we could do it for sure.

>> All right, let's see if Stephen with it with the headphones on can turn off his microphone.

>> Okay.

>> Hello, Stephen.

>> Hello, Scott.

My goodness.

I'll add Well, I don't think I can.

Um, I wouldn't be able to probably explain the incredible adventure that has been this entire time uh that I have had an opportunity to to watch you and to learn from you.

Now, I am included, I think, among the slightly older group, Gen Xer and so forth and would have been one of those Rush Limbbo babies that somehow migrated their way to to your show.

And of course, I he was all through high school basically.

you know, the lunch I would walk home, run home in order to be able to catch a show in the middle of the day.

And so, you know, he was um you know, he was an an uncle type as I was growing up.

Well, naturally and without any hesitation at all, as soon as I stumbled across you and your show, I immediately realized, okay, you know, this this is going to be the next type of person for um to be able to do that.

And you absolutely did.

And so I admit that I took as much of your advice as I possibly could, that I tried to get myself in trouble often.

Um, and and that um I I do have a thank you note for you that I that I made and I suppose I could read it.

I don't know how much inside stuff is in here.

It was a long time ago that I wrote this, but I didn't want to be among the people who would somehow mysteriously find out where you lived and send you things because I was already potentially beginning to garner a reputation for the sort of person that would do that out of malice.

I never would.

Um, it was all it was it was fun for me.

And so I absolutely enjoyed uh trying to fail my way to wherever I am now.

And and I promise for those five years, it was it was the adventure.

Well, it's the second adventure of my life.

Um um I'd actually retired from the military.

I've been in for 24 years.

So it was a long time.

I've had basically a full career doing all of that stuff.

And then I had a chance to bring whatever that experience was to to you and uh to my life and my family here.

So we go.

Don't know how you'll be able to see it or read it, but I thank you.

Yep.

>> Okay.

>> Nice.

>> Nice.

>> All right.

>> Oh, yes.

Well, not the not the thank you part.

No, I basically was using the card the base of the card as the the thank you foundation for everything and then I would either draw or you know use emojis whatever fill it.

So it just, you know, again, all I did was try to fail my way through um trying to trying to copy you, which actually, you know, for most people, I would think that the the thing they're missing in their life is they don't have a good enough thing to try to copy and and you can you can do an awful lot just copying somebody else's really good advice or their behavior.

So that was that's probably what I saw.

You know, Rush, of course, was somebody who much much more than the political person he became, but he proved to me what happens to someone who actually is an ordinary person who happens to become somewhat successful.

And then they stumble into the political world and all of a sudden they're either an angel or a devil.

Um, so I wrote you a little joke that's based on the experience that I had.

I'll I'll see.

I mean, I can read it.

It's um I don't know how much of it would be would be understandable.

Uh, but I happen to write it on Sunday 3rd of March 2024 at 1 123 4 p.m.

because numbers mean something apparently to some people.

And it's a cat, of course.

This it was in a little adventure that I had where there was a cat who was the woman who was always troubling me my entire life, whoever she was.

And so she starts the conversation and she says, "Stephen, no woman wants a man to run around loving her with all his heart no matter what." And no, because I know that deep down they don't really want that.

Although they'll swear up and down if you actually try that they don't like it.

It's true.

Um anyhow, and the little character that I had sort of created is a copy again.

Most everything's a copy of maybe two or three things, but he's a little guy who would say, as you so famously did say, what?

Because we know that doesn't make sense.

They all want it.

And then I include a cloud, which to me is a it's the figure that's above us all, or it's the thing that's above us all.

Many people would say it's God.

To me, certainly it is, but to others maybe not so much.

Doesn't matter.

But if he were in the room, he would have said, "What too?" And so he would agree with you as I would.

So, okay, everybody, that's the trick, I guess, if there is one.

>> Do whatever you can to run around and love a woman with all your heart, no matter what, and just see what happens.

It'll be the greatest thing that's ever happened.

>> Thanks, Scott.

>> Well, thank you for that.

>> Thank you.

Thank you.

>> Do we have anybody else that wants to come in?

Crawley is known as Crawley, one of our regulars, which we call the beloveds.

>> Do we need to accept more or how do we >> Well, if we're not bored.

Yes.

It's a little after.

Um, but you have to approve them.

>> Oh, yeah.

We have to go approve them.

They want to come in.

Let's go prove some more.

>> And let's accept some more.

>> Okay.

>> Just keep going.

Scrolling down.

>> Just keep us.

>> There you go.

Just Yeah.

Just keep accepting it.

>> And it looks like it limit.

>> Okay.

>> Okay.

So now we have a bunch of people and this gentleman I guess the way I can tell if you want to come up is if you show up on video just to me.

So it looks like norm I can't see from way over here.

>> Hi.

>> Hi.

What's your name?

>> Norm.

>> Norm.

>> Hey Norm.

Hey, Scott.

Hey, Shelly.

How you doing?

Nice to meet you.

>> Nice to meet you.

>> Finally get on here.

>> Hey, >> somebody else been a Been a huge follower.

Norm.

>> Yeah.

Gotcha.

>> Yo behind you.

>> What are you behind?

>> Oh, holy Yep.

Surprise.

>> Surprise.

What's your name?

>> I keep hearing myself over and over again.

>> All right.

Well, it looks like Norm and Ryan around here.

>> Oh, >> hey B.

>> Maybe that's better.

I think I did it.

>> You're both on the audio.

So, >> yeah.

So, who would like to talk?

Well, I heard you talking about mortgage bonds and I'm in the mortgage business, so I figured I'd jump on because I'm pretty pumped about Trump's uh buying the mortgage back securities.

That'll definitely pump the rates down.

>> Now, explain to us like we're done how that will help.

>> Okay.

So, the last time that the government bought mortgage uh act securities, which is the bonds they're talking about, was after the 2008 housing crisis.

So, what happens is the these bonds are available for like think of it like a mutual fund or a stock, but they're not very attractive because they don't give high high rates of returns like the stock market and other mutual funds.

So, no one really buys them.

So if no one buys them, there's not a demand for them.

So the only way to get a demand is the rates go up to the make it appealing to an investor.

You know, they want 7 8% return on their money at least, >> right?

>> Um so because there's no demand for them, um they rates will go up.

But once there's a demand, meaning when the country starts buying in that amounts, it pushes the rates down because now they're being bought by someone, in this case, the government.

So, it's the government's way of manipulating the rates to go down when the Fed doesn't want to lower them.

So, because he's going back and forth with Powell, uh, and Powell won't lower the rates, the way the government can do that is actually buy the bonds itself in large quantities like it is.

And as long as he keeps buying them, the rates will go down and go down and go down because someone because now he's created an interest, so to speak, by manipulating the system.

only been done once before and it was Obama did it a lot in 2008 to keep the rates down when the Fed didn't want to lower it and that's when rates were like 3 4%.

>> Did it work?

>> Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

It worked.

It was the um one of the biggest mortgage booms, you know, in history besides the one we just recently had with CO.

COVID was the, you know, the largest rate reduction when it was two or 3%.

But yeah, I mean rates went down to three or four.

I've been in mortgages for 35 years and um been watching been reading your column for about the same amount of time and totally um can uh understand, you know, the whole corporate culture.

It made me want to open my own business so I didn't have to answer to anyone.

>> Nice.

But yeah, it worked and it will work.

>> Yeah, thank you for sharing that.

>> Yeah, and look forward to um your future streams.

>> But I don't want to take everyone's turn, but >> isn't isn't sort of a projection that we have a 5.4 GDP?

Um I'm not familiar with the the gross domest domestic product but I know the numbers came out recently yesterday the unemployment is going down which always helps.

I mean, at the end of the day, all the all the numbers are in line for lower rates, but it's became a political thing with Powell and Trump where Powell just won't rate lower the rates or if he does lower them, he in his in his um comments that he does to the people, he'll put something like this doesn't guarantee they'll be cut the next time.

So, he does all the right wording just to keep the rates high.

Wow.

>> Correct, Scott.

You're correct.

Adobe Atlanta Fed nearly doubled their Q4 growth estimate to 5.4% from 2.9% for GDP.

Um, >> wow.

>> Capital described it as massive expansion largely attributable to the narrowing trade deficit and that was another story that the trade deficit has been slashed to like as low as it's been since 2009.

Um, so the trade deficit is way down.

Um, and the quote from Geer Capital is, "We're running it hot.

Get on board." >> All right.

I don't think I've ever seen that in my lifetime, have I?

5.4 um, GDP.

>> I don't think so.

That's incredibly high.

Um, I could ask Grock to see if it can tell me when we've had that before, but I don't recall that ever in my lifetime.

>> Oh, do that.

Ask Rock.

See what I'm saying?

>> It'll take It'll take a minute.

>> Who do Who do we have on the screen?

Who's the other person on the screen here?

>> Oh, hi.

Uh, I'm Brian.

I'm not sure if you could hear me.

>> We can hear you.

>> Oh, good.

Hi, Scott.

Hi, Shel.

Um, hope day.

And uh I uh thought that uh a week ago, well gosh, never met or chatted with Scott directly.

Hope to see you on the other side.

Um and but but now I hope that's a long time from now.

Uh, >> and but anyway, been a Dilbert fan since the early 90s when I was in engineering school.

And um, at least I don't know when the book came out, what would Wall-E do?

But in the early 90s, you know, when we were out working on a lab, some might set something on fire.

We hit a inflection point and so, well, what would Wall-Ally do?

And, uh, that became the catchphrase uh, at least for my senior year in college.

And um and then you know I of course read your books and uh you know got busy with a family for 20 years and then um you know 2015 rolled around with Trump and things got weird and I'd always voted Republican except for when I voted for Perau so you can blame Bill Clinton on me and um but then I was really confused.

I would have an engineering background, legal background, you know, analyze things for a living and I really was not understanding what I was seeing and I paid more and more attention and uh I'd lived in Connecticut at the time and in 2016 I guess we moved to Minnesota which is great freaking timing umh to move to Minnesota after it started its decline.

Uh, but um 2016 rolls around and I really don't understand what I'm seeing.

And all I could think of was, well, Trump's trying to get attention or something.

I don't think any of this is real.

And I was confused until I saw the the the cover of the Win Bigly book with, you know, Dog Right with the Trump hair.

Didn't understand what it was about, but I said, I need to own that.

And that was eye-opening uh for me.

Must have been 2016 and uh read Chelini's books after that.

And I actually reached out to Chelini with a poster of my daughter.

I took the teachings and put it on a big poster board of complete BS of persuasion uh to help her sell Girl Scout cookies, pictures of this, which is funny.

Chilini writes back and said that made me laugh out loud and uh told him how much I liked his books and uh I was able to mail them to him uh influence and persuasion.

He signed them and sent them back.

So those are two of my more cherished possessions.

So, but I really I don't know how I would have gotten through the last 10 years without your filter because I once I read your book and started listening to your podcasts on Periscope, everything made sense and it has ever since.

Um, so thank you for that.

And then the last thing I would like to thank you for is I think during one of your live streams where you were doing drawing Dilberts a few years ago, I had you laughing pretty good at some of my suggestions because of the asinine life I experienced at many law firms, but in particular the one I was at at that time that I've since left and I'm proud to say that a couple of my suggestions made it into one or two panels of a couple of Dilbert strips that appeared not long after that.

Um, so those are two two of my most prized uh possessions.

I keep those uh you know printed out on um you know at the office.

Anybody asks I'm like well this is how this came to be.

Um you know and then they call me you know a racist and um I said thank you and uh you know but but thank you for everything.

>> Are you in a gym?

>> Are you at a gym or is that your >> Oh no.

This is my man cave.

Um, I have uh my wife lets me use a part the part of the basement of our house that's on the other side of a garage and um I have packed my entire life into this room and weight equipment in the garage uh as well along with radio control cars and you know college banners and proud MIT graduate and uh uh that's uh that's me.

>> I probably could have guessed you were an MIT graduate.

>> >> But you're the first one I've seen who doesn't wear glasses.

No, I don't I I I use glasses for driving.

Um I'll probably need them for reading and not very long.

Um yeah, but for now uh you know, but for now I don't need them.

MIT was an amazing experience and uh law school after that was kind of like a vacation.

I just went to Boston College Law School in the late 90s and her class was 55% women.

I just kind of kicked back and had fun.

Um before spending the last 25 years getting ground through nine or 10 different law firms.

So >> wait, you're telling me that MIT was 55% women?

>> Boston College Law School.

Uh MIT was a sword fight.

Uh kind of leave it there.

But um but it was a great both were a great experience but for different reasons.

Uh I I did nuclear fusion at MIT and then there were no jobs in fusion back then which should not be a surprise.

And then I went to to law school after that.

>> Wow.

What was the coolest thing you invented that we don't know about?

Oh, um I don't know if it's a I didn't end up on the patent, but because I didn't understand how patents worked back then, but um I worked on a uh uh microwave emissions metals monitor in grad school.

And the idea was uh it was similar to the idea if you go to to an analytical lab these days and you want to find out how many parts per million of you know season you know some metal or in a solution they'll nebulize it and run it through this little thing called a an inductively coupled plasma and they can get very accurate readings down to like you know parts per million.

You know whether you go to like a polymers lab or whatever you want to find out how much metal's in a plastic um that's how you do it.

Uh but we were trying to use a more robust version of a like a tabletop plasma.

Um that was a microwave induced plasma which is like a big rectangular wave guide with a hole through the end and you shoot air through the end.

Turn on the microwaves and you have something that looks like a little torch.

And then what we would do is we would take effluent from an exhaust stream, run it through the plasma and then we would have fiber optics that would view the light that was emitted from the plasma.

What what would happen is if you had a metal particle flying through the gas um it would um get the electrons in the outer shells would get excited and then when they came back down within fraction of a millisecond it would give off light at a certain frequency and wavelength and you would detect that.

So you could figure out in real time what was going through the gas stream.

The problem was uh we could never really quantify it to say that oh you know there's this much you know going that went through uh my master's thesis concerned that topic and you we did the best we could it was very sensitive so you could tell if something was going through it and when uh but that was about it and so there was a patent for that and I made a couple of minor contributions to it uh but didn't end up on the patent uh but that's okay because it never got commercialized So, >> did anybody notice me falling asleep?

>> Yeah, I was very I'm sure you're very excited by that and I apologize.

So, >> Oh, not because of your story.

>> It's definitely not because of your story.

>> Okay.

>> All right.

So, it looks like we have What is your name?

Michael.

Michael, turn off your microphone.

>> Turn on you mean >> turn on your microphone.

Oh, can't hear you.

>> Not yet.

>> Not yet.

>> Turn on your microphone.

>> Whoops.

Disappeared.

>> All right.

Who Who do we have here?

I can't see the name.

Can you see her name?

>> How about Patty?

>> Patty?

Is this Patty?

>> Hello?

Can you hear me?

>> Yes, I can hear you.

>> I am so excited to talk to you.

Good morning.

>> Good morning.

>> Morning.

I said yesterday after which I couldn't um participate in yesterday.

I was at work and as the live stream closed I said tomorrow I'm going to talk to Scott Adams and I've spent the last hour trying to figure out how to get the link and I've finally figured it out and I've had so many interruptions in my home and I was like I am determined I'm going to talk to Scott today.

>> Well, >> here's your chance.

>> Here you are.

I um you said something on your show the other day I wanted to address um and I don't expect a response because this is a private thing for you but I do want to comment.

Um, people were uh suggesting titles for your book, I believe, and one of them was Escape from Prisoner Island.

And you said, "I didn't escape." And I thought, "If you convert to Christianity, you escape." >> Oh, >> Jesus said he came to set the captives free.

And I just wanted to tell you that because the minute you said it, I thought, "No, no, no.

You did escape." And uh >> well, we'll find out what escape means.

>> Well, yeah, that is true.

>> So, >> you have you have just been a joy for all of us.

I I've followed Dilbert from the very beginning.

I um used to think, I wonder what kind of person writes this because he makes me laugh every day.

I have two Dilbert comics on my um wall at work.

My boss comes in and laughs about them and he doesn't realize that they're about him.

I'm sure you hear that a lot.

>> Yep.

>> And uh you are the highlight of my morning every morning.

And thank you for that.

>> Well, thank you for noticing.

>> You've changed my life.

>> Now, how does a comic change your life?

>> Well, it's not because you're a comic.

It's I think because you're a sage.

>> Oh, thank you.

>> Did we figure out how to get our mic on there?

>> I'm talking to Michael.

Oh, he's No, we still can't hear you.

>> So, Michael, there is a microphone on your side that must be activated and you can talk at the same time as Patty.

It won't cut you off.

So, Patty, was there anything else you'd like to add while Michael was looking for his microphone?

>> Oh, I hope Michael finds his microphone.

>> It's down at the bottom, Michael.

It is at the bottom on the left.

>> You have to press it a few times.

>> I'll just jump in with a followup by ask about the GDP rate.

There actually have been several times when it's been higher than 5.4% but it's always been during an e economic recovery.

So if you remember the early 80s and the late 90s when we were really hot the economy.

Um, of course the late 90s was right before the dot bust, but um, those are the only times it's been that way.

The only other really exceptional one is dur in the pandemic recovery.

It got really high even 34% one quarter, but that's kind of a anomaly.

>> All right.

So, Michael, you might be dyslexic because you can >> >> because you're confusing microphone with video.

So, one of them should be off.

>> I thought of something else I'd love to tell you, Scott.

>> Yeah, go ahead, Patty.

>> I have a a teenage grandson that is um he's very insecure.

He He just has a lot of issues going on.

and he was with me recently and I you know teenagers are they love anime and Marvel comics and all of the superhero movies and I said I said to him, "Hey, would you like to have a superpower?" He and of course he was like, "Yeah, of course we all want to have a superpower." And I said, 'Well, here's a superpower that you can have.

You become unmbarrassable.

And I said, 'Think about it, Brener.

If I'm sorry, I wasn't going to use his name, but um I said, think about it.

If if you could have anything happened to you in your life and you do not you you are it's in impossible for you to become embarrassed, you will have a superpower.

and he started thinking about that and we talked about it a lot and he really loved the idea and I told him where I got the idea was from Scott Adams and uh the creator of of a very famous comic called Dilbert and he I said that you'd written several books and so he asked if he could have one of your books and I'm going to give I what would you suggest for a teenager?

How to fail at anything?

>> Yes.

So from age of 14 on that field almost everything and still one big >> okay he's 13 so on his 14th birthday I'll give him that book >> and >> thank you for that >> that would be kind of a tie between wind biggly and reframe your brain >> I love reframe your brain you know I've done reframing since I was a kid um a teacher read some books to us about about a character named Mrs.

Pigglewiggle.

I don't know if you've ever heard of her.

>> I've not.

And um I used those kind of as an inspiration when I was a kid that I would create a reframe situation where I was my mom would tell me to go clean my room and I didn't want to clean my room but I would pretend that if I didn't get it done in a certain amount of time that a wicked witch was going to come in and cast a spell on me and I would get it done and I would have fun doing it because I know there was no wicked witch coming.

But it was a fun pretend game and I did that with all kinds of areas in my life.

And so when the Reframe book came out, it just made so much sense to me and I really love it.

I I read it frequently and I just pick it up for um a daily tip of the day.

I really like it.

Thank you for that.

>> Good.

That's the order I like to hear them being read in.

So, um, we should probably close down, but not before we give Michael one more chance.

>> Yeah.

Where is Michael?

Where are you, >> Michael?

Looks like he has something else to do.

Sean Corey.

All right, I think we've done all we can do today.

I apologize again for falling asleep on camera, but I warned you.

I warned you.

This is the most medicated I've ever been in my life.

It was a wild trip.

So, thanks for sticking in there and I will soon figure out how to train you to uh have more interesting uh dreams.

All right, everybody.

Say goodbye to Shelly.

Bye, Shelly.

Thank you.

Nice meeting you.

>> See you all.

>> Bye for now.

>> Bye.

sort of live

and if any of you can see me

that would be amazing.

So I can see some of you.

Uh the trick here is if you all

[snorts]

pretend

you're all in my living room.

So this is Shelly Adams

for those of you who have not yet met

her.

And uh now I know how early I have to

get up. There does seem to be no way

that I can figure out how to get all the

right people up here.

So,

let's see how many people we can get.

This will be an adventure.

How shall they say something so we know

they can hear you?

>> Can you hear me?

>> Looks like it might work. The problem

will be getting extra people up here.

So,

that would be the problem.

Let's see.

How about we make it?

Excuse me

loud and clear.

Well, if you can hear me loud and clear,

you can probably hear her because we're

the same microphone and same camera. So,

I would like to start out with

happy birthday, Mike.

So, we're trying to get everything

together.

It's a birthday for a regular

Mike Bert.

50 years old today.

We could not say goodbye.

All right.

So, um, in case you didn't know the

importance of Shelly, she will be the,

uh, head of the estate

and the boss of everything.

And I think she had a few words to give

you about what role will be going

forward.

Ready for that?

Let's do that.

>> Good morning, everybody.

Um, yes. I'm Shelley. I don't know if

Scott wants to introduce me as, but I am

his [laughter] ex.

>> First ex.

>> First ex.

Um, I'm just want to tell you a little

bit about myself. Um,

and I'm going to start by first of all,

I want to just start by saying this is

not my world. Social media is not my

world. Um,

>> had be my world. the uh

All right. [laughter]

>> So, this I want to first of all thank

Nicole yesterday, the shy one with the

glasses that Scott kept pointing out

because that's probably me times two. Um

so, thank you Nicole for giving me the

courage to get on here this morning. Um

just a little bit about myself. Um

before Scott, I um worked in the

corporate office in Foster City as a

retirement specialist before having

kids. Um I started working for Scott in

2003.

Um, my main job, I would say, would be

to

gather all his Dilbert subscribers,

um, email ideas of their crazy workplace

stories. Um, they would send in all

these great stories to give him

inspiration for the comic strip. Um, I

kind of pulled them all together,

tried to weed out the really good ones.

um put them together for him and uh so

that he could quickly just look at them

and um get his idea for the day. So that

was my main job among [clears throat] a

lot of other jobs. Um, I did get my real

estate license

um after

uh we split up. Um, and I pursued that

real estate and property management and

that was very successful. Um, but I

continued to be in Scott's life the

entire time. We were we're we're best

friends. So, um, that that continued.

Um, I have a beautiful daughter,

Savannah.

[clears throat] Um, who when Scott and I

met, she was only five years old. Um, he

helped raise her and, um, she just got

married last year. She, uh, got married

to Jacob and they are, I now have a

son-in-law and hoping someday had to

have grandchildren.

Um, they're the perfect together. Um I'm

married, remarried

and um I

been with my husband for going going on

12 years. Um we waited until

10year anniversary and we decided to

have a big backyard wedding. So um it

was beautiful. Um,

he came with two bonus sons. So, I have

two more sons. And, um, I just want to

give a shout out to him, to my husband

Pat, for

understanding

and being so supportive of my

relationship with Scott through all the

years and through going through this

with him.

Um, but I have the biggest job ahead of

me, which is now to keep Scott's legacy

alive. And I'm going to need the help of

all of you guys to do that. And I know

you've supported him all these years.

And he loves you guys. And I know you're

going to support me to keep his legacy

going.

And that's I think that's all I wanted

to say. The short version of that is

that she's the new or well she's she had

the job that Owen has

[laughter and gasps]

[clears throat]

making sure that you know things run

smoothly on this end and only in the

sense that she was picking out good

stories for me and uh now Owen is the

picker. So Shel is the boss of all

bosses.

So I'm having increasing trouble talking

and obviously I have no no mobility.

So without Shelly this operation would

come to a halt and she is the person I

trust the most in the entire world. Now

one of the things I like about Shelly

uh is that no matter how scary something

is she is unwanted.

So that's one of the most impressive

things about her that we don't know what

we're doing right now, but and that

never stops her. So we'll we'll work

through this one way or another. Now,

what I was hoping to do, as most of you

know, is convert from Coffee with Scott

Adams

to more of a um we'll figure it out as

we go, but we're moving toward a

situation where Wow. I have to tell you,

I've never been on this many drugs

before in my life. I had a I had a tough

time with the uh uh cough last night and

so I'm just [clears throat] absolutely

loaded up with a with meds. All legal.

Every bit of it is illegal.

Um so the hardest thing I was trying to

do is get uh other people invited up. So

I'm going to see if I can do that. But

as soon as people can talk,

uh, you can just go ahead and talk. So

if there's something to ask, something

to add, and you could talk about the

news or you could talk about this or you

could have

>> I think we just accept them.

>> We could accept all, right?

>> We'll just accept a few for now.

>> Well, I should make sure we're accepting

Owen and Erica.

>> Okay. and maybe Marcela.

So, if we get a few friendlies up here,

it'll be a different experience.

And I still don't see

>> Is that Owen up there? Let me see that

>> Rowan.

>> No,

we're looking through a list of known

people.

All right, here we go.

We've got invitations.

[clears throat]

>> [snorts]

>> Why isn't we? Well, so far nobody's

accepted. That's why.

>> Well, I think we have to accept them,

don't we? First to accept them in

>> Yeah, but how do we know which ones to

accept?

>> You just look at their names.

>> Oh,

except right here.

>> Which one? We know.

>> And then,

>> wait, it didn't work. Didn't work.

>> Didn't work.

>> You did not accept.

All right.

So Josh Joshua.

>> Yeah,

>> hold on. Joshua. So right now I'm

accepting known people.

Um,

we got two.

And who else

>> is that? Marcella.

[cough and clears throat] No,

>> that's Malcolm. Okay.

Um,

Um, all right.

Eric Burch, we got Mike Burella.

Here we go.

All right. Now that Owen or I

>> haven't seen Owen yet,

so we'll go with this.

Let's see.

I have you all.

What do I want of you all when I've

accepted only some?

Oh, so difficult to figure out.

All right.

>> Do we have to turn that on?

>> I think that's why she turns on.

All right. We're in auto

in theory.

All right, there's Marcela.

[snorts]

[clears throat]

There's Joshua.

So, any of you Joshua, Marcela, [snorts]

if you turn on your microphones, we

should be able to see you. Hear you?

>> Can any of you talk right now?

>> Good morning, Scott. Hey,

by the way,

why am I so pathetic and turning on

microphones? [clears throat] You're the

one who had to turn it on, right?

>> Yeah, we have to we have to manually

turn on our own uh turn on our own

microphones here.

>> We got company.

>> Hey, Summer, you want to say hi to

Scott? You want to say hi? Say Scott and

Shelly. Hey,

>> this is Summer.

>> Hey, Summer.

>> Did you happen to check the news this

morning? [laughter]

>> Did you happen to check the news THIS

MORNING, HONEY?

>> YEAH.

>> YEAH. OH,

kid getting a hold of the phone. She

wants to do some reading. Yes. Little

cameo from Summer. Thank you. It's a

pleasure to meet you, Shel. Thank you

for joining. That was a heartfelt

introduction. We're so glad to have you

as the as the protector of this

community and the guide for us all.

>> Thank you.

>> So, um, did anybody happen to catch any

news? Has Iran fallen yet?

>> No.

>> Still standing and they're being

defiant. They're threatening to fight

back really hard right now.

>> Now, I can't hear Marcela. Is that

because you have your mic off or I do?

on your mic.

>> Sorry, I didn't see the the mute button.

Good morning. Good morning, Shel. Thank

you for being here.

>> You're you're amazing. Um,

no, it will fall. Um, and I'll tell you

why. Um, the main reason is that in the

previous um protest, it was just the

youth that were protesting, women. But

what he's lost, Kamini has lost

support of the middle and upper class,

the star class. And that is uh what

keeps him going with funding and money.

Um so yesterday made a speech to the

nation to tell them that whatever they

were doing was against the law and

against God. And basically that means

that anybody could be shot on the spot

and executed for protesting, but people

are still going out doing it. It's been

46 years. They are tired. They just want

to do it. And I think what pushes them

is Trump, you know, knowing that they

have Trump there. But I'll let everybody

else speak.

>> So, we don't know how to add Owen yet.

In theory,

um, let me get back to that, Russell.

In theory,

if we add Owen, but he doesn't turn on

his camera,

he can be anonymous. Is that true?

Still figuring out how to add him.

>> I told Owen that he could wear a mask.

>> Oh my god, that's Sergio.

That's mean.

Hey Scott.

>> Hi.

>> Hi my bird. Josh.

>> Hey sir.

>> That's awesome. Oh

>> so you we're talking to right.

>> Yes. That's me right now.

>> So

>> so I was telling Noah he could wear a

mask like the mask uh Avenger or

something you know.

>> [laughter]

>> Well, I spent like an hour last night

talking to Erica trying to figure out

how to add a person. And unfortunately,

she was using instructions from Grock.

Now, I don't know if you've ever tried

to get instructions from Grock about

anything

about anything,

but it's near impossible.

and it has very specific instructions,

but it's about menus that don't exist.

Have you had that same experience? It

starts out with, "All right, uh, use the

main community button and I'll go to the

place, it'll be no main community

button." And you could look all day for

the main community button and it won't

be there. And then somebody says, "Yes,

but Rock says it's there, but it's never

there. It's never there."

So I have to figure that. The one and

only way

I can get instructions on doing that is

if somebody else who knows how to do it

goes page by page and takes a screenshot

and then eventually you hit that that

person does not have the most current

version.

>> Mhm. So there is nowhere on earth exists

a set of instructions to do what I want.

And then we and then with good luck we

discover it. But it's in a completely

odd weird place that you could never

find anything.

So, so we got Sergio. Um, but how do I

get

All right, let's see if I can get Owen

on my phone.

He might already be there.

>> You look amazing.

>> Well, you're too nice.

>> What we look is stupid because we can't

do the dumb thing.

But you can't it's hard to get advice

because nobody else looks like the host.

So

>> is my book on here?

>> What about

>> birthday

my

>> Hey guys, how's it going?

>> Mo is here too. Happy birthday.

>> It's my birthday.

>> It's his birthday. So,

>> wait. So, that's Mike Bur.

>> Yeah.

>> Oh, okay.

>> Good to see you. This is very much like

hanging out in your own home and you

don't know what to do. What do I do now?

>> Pardon me. I'm going to drop out so that

other people can join and I'm going to

focus on my kids here. It was a pleasure

again to hear from you this morning,

Shelly. Thank you so much. Scott, thank

you. I love you. And all three of my

kids have grown up hearing your voice.

You're like kind of the internet uncle,

so to speak, that your voice is familiar

to all of them even before they were

born. And they'll be hearing you for the

rest of their lives in one way or

another. Scott, thank you. You're

welcome.

>> All right. Thank you.

>> All right. Who's So Owen is waiting

for host approval,

but do you see

>> Scott? This is Sarah. Sarah B88 is my

local's name, but I discovered yesterday

that my Rumble name is separate and I

can't change it, so that's why probably

nobody knows who I am. Anyway, uh

[clears throat] so I'm going to go ahead

and drop out, but I just want to say hey

and so glad to see you today and hope

you're hope you're doing better and

we're all thinking about you and praying

for you.

>> [snorts]

>> See, my problem is I'm too popular

because I have to find a name in a list

of a thousand

and then specifically

approve it and there's no search

function.

So, how about this?

How about everybody drop out except for

Owen?

See if that works.

There's a waiting room.

>> Yeah, but I don't think we can.

>> So, there's only two places that could

people could be waiting room and

participants.

If I go to the waiting room. Sorry, you

have to put up with this. Is there

anybody whose sound is still on who can

tell something about the news? Has Trump

done anything interesting?

No, nothing interesting.

Can you see me? Can you hear me?

>> I can see and hear you in the waiting

room.

>> Okay.

>> But we don't see Owen,

who we're sure is here.

Boy, if you can put up with this, you

can put up with anything.

I'll be done.

Required approvals. Don't require

approval.

So, there's a problem with the waiting

room. There's just too many people.

Is that what's going on?

I feel like I could approve. Oh, and if

I could find them in a gigantic list,

come on, baby.

Now I know why Dave Rubin uses two

people to do this.

Well,

>> do you want him just to call us and we

can include him his voice?

>> Uh, we can try that.

So, Owen Owen Owen, why don't you just

call me on my um

text number? You will not be seen, but

you will be heard.

>> [laughter]

[snorts]

>> How hard is it to tell somebody where a

button is? But it's hard whether there's

a third a thousand people.

Owen must not be here.

All right.

Well, all right. Something's coming in.

Oh, really?

He called. It went a voicemail.

>> Why don't we try calling him?

>> All right, here we go.

>> Good morning, Scott. Good morning, Shel.

>> Good morning.

>> Good morning, Owen.

Can everybody hear you?

>> I hope so.

>> All right, we're going to go back to the

show view and give us a sign.

Wait a minute.

>> If everyone can hear me. [snorts]

>> So, we're not we're not looking at um

>> we're just listening to

>> Yeah, we're just listening. So we can

bring more people back up in the screen.

>> Right. You are correct.

So we're going to view all

we're gonna

once he's there participants

Sergio

and Mike Bird are invisible.

And all right, Owen, since you're going

to be on the whole time, at least your

voice will be, maybe you could lead us

off and

uh Oh, there's Marcelo.

There was way to

see her. So, Owen, did you uh make some

notes of the news today?

>> I did. Let me pull them up.

We want to start with the simultaneous

sip.

>> Yes, we do.

>> Sure to do that.

>> Yes, we do.

>> We would like to do that.

>> But you're going to lead us.

>> Okay. Well, all you need is a cuper mug,

a glass, tank or chalice or stein, a

canteen jug or flask, a vessel of any

kind. Fill it with your favorite liquid.

I like coffee. And join me now for the

unparalleled pleasure, the dopamine hit

of the day, the thing that makes

everything better. simultaneous set. Go

>> go.

Boy, that was a struggle.

So, in no particular order,

is there some uh stories or stories you

want to cue us up on?

>> Uh, there's plenty. Um, I I think as far

as Iran goes, I think it was correct

that they're still having their

protests.

The crown prince has issued a bunch of

messages on X.

Um, sort of a rallying cry. So, he's

definitely claiming he wants to return

and wants people to keep protesting.

Um I think the ayatollah and the regime

is threatening execution and saying that

um protesters are ruining the streets

[clears throat and snorts]

>> to please Trump.

That's what comes.

>> He's warning of a crackdown.

>> So they have

>> they have no public bathrooms

and gigantic crowds.

>> I always wonder what happens in those

situations.

>> Yeah. I don't know. It's it seems like

it's spreading across the country, but

it's hard to know what's real and what's

propaganda. Um, I don't know if you have

a view on that, but it it does seem to

me, as I think you pointed out before,

that there's, you know, what you hear

when there's something like a color

revolution going on and it's all

one-sided and it's all painting a

narrative, but what's actually happening

in the country, especially when the

internet's cut off and there's not a lot

of information flow, um, is highly in

question, I think. Wow. [snorts]

>> It's pretty well understood at this

point.

That is not organic, right? Or is it? Is

it organic?

>> I'm not sure I believe that any protests

are organic anymore.

[snorts]

>> Yeah, that that's where I'm at.

I don't believe any of these are real.

>> Yeah. [clears throat] And um for other

international news, uh Trump is certain

still saying he wants to go after

Greenland and he's going to take it

whether they like it or not. And he he

made a statement that he'll either do it

the easy way or the hard way.

Uh he's floating an idea of paying each

citizen of Greenland $100,000 to

essentially buy the country.

>> Really?

>> Mhm. So, so every single citizen would

get $100,000

if

>> Yeah. There aren't that many of them.

>> 30,000 I think.

>> Something like that. Yeah.

>> Wow.

>> Denmark is not budging so far. They're

claiming they won't give it up even if

the US nukes them. That's the statement

they made.

>> So, they jumped right to nuclear war.

and they're saying it would threaten

NATO and um so Denmark is certainly

unhappy about the situation. I know

there's some meeting coming up, it might

be happening now with Marco Rubio

um meeting with Denmark. So there is

some kind of I guess discussion or

negotiation that's queued up to happen.

>> But Trump doesn't seem to want to back

down and I don't really see him backing

down. Do you

>> at this point? No.

Um,

what is China threatening?

>> Nothing, right?

>> I don't think so. China's mostly been

sitting this stuff out. I think they're

probably still um upset about Venezuela.

I don't remember. I don't know if you

remember um they literally had a bunch

of diplomats in Venezuela when the raid

happened.

And [clears throat] they were making

they were there to make some kind of oil

deal or something. And I think there's

certainly a lot of speculation that

the [clears throat] motivation

raid was to deprive Russia and China of

oil.

>> Oh well, that's not too scary. How much

how much oil were they going to get from

Denmark anyway?

>> Well, Russia and China have been making

deals to get oil from Venezuela. So, I'm

kind of switching topics, but

>> Oh, okay.

>> But I think the [clears throat] the

direction now seems to be that Trump is

sending a bunch of tankers to go get the

oil, and he's claiming that we're going

to get something like 30 to 50 million

barrels of oil. There was a story I

posted today that it could be that we

could refill our entire strategic

petroleum reserve of oil just from

Venezuela.

>> Really?

So, um,

Marcela,

turn on your microphone.

>> Yes.

>> You're a local expert on Iceland.

>> Yes, I am.

>> So, what will be the impact on Iceland

if uh Greenland goes America?

>> No, I've been to Greenland as well. Um

I think it's it's a big deal for them um

because the fisheries and the oil that

is in the ocean in that area. Um so

Iceland's always been a friendly country

to America. They were used to have a

um like a military base there since like

I think they moved it in 2006. But

anyways, um I think what Trump is doing

is negotiating. Um you know, he puts the

first offer, which is I'm going to take

Greenland and no matter what. Um but I

think that they're probably negotiating

something with Denmark. I can see that

happening. Um

basically, it would be the best for

Greenland for the US to take over for

them. They have a lot of issues and

Denmark has never really uh

supported them. Um they even say that

they've always been threatened by

Denmark, the Greenlanders. Um recently,

a year or two years ago, they were told

that if they didn't follow what

Greenland what Denmark wanted that they

would take away their free Medicare and

free uh education. So that's the main

thing that they want to keep. I think if

Trump would offer that to them or some

kind of money offer, I think that they

would be willing to take it. It would be

best for Greenland. Greenland has issues

with alcoholism, suicide, and they're

basically stagnant. There's no

industries,

um, mostly tourism, and you know, now

and again. But it it you know Trump is

like the hero um in my mind you know

with Venezuela with Iran and now with

Greenland. Greenlanders just aren't

aware you know I think that he needs to

the propaganda is European propaganda is

very strong.

>> I didn't know European propaganda was

strong at all. I thought they had a weak

weak.

>> What I don't understand is that it seems

like Greenland is just a big money sync.

Like, as I understand it, there's bunch

of money that Denmark pays to Greenland

every year just to maintain the

infrastructure and to protect it. And

they don't even really do much

protection.

So, it seems like it's just a big

expense on their budget every year. And

I don't know what benefit they get from

it. And strategically it certainly has

value to America, but I don't know what

value it has to Denmark.

>> Well, then I think we should talk about

something else.

How about we let How about we let in uh

as many people as we can

and uh

since Owen has an open line all the

time. He can either introduce some

technology

stuff or uh or not. Mike, what is the

what is the most interesting tech thing

that's happening today?

It's still CES, right?

What

>> Owen, I think um Scott wanted to ask you

a question.

>> Yeah. Owen, what what's happening that's

not

not about international affairs

necessarily, but just something

interesting that uh you found in the

news today?

>> Well, Trump made a bunch of interesting

statements today. Um, one is that he

wants to limit credit card interest

rates to 10%. Um,

another recent announcement he made was

that he wants uh I I forget which

agency, but he they're going to buy

something like $200 billion in mortgage

bonds.

And I think that was meant to reduce

interest rates. So, he's taking a pretty

heavy step towards trying to push down

mortgage rates to make them more

affordable.

>> Do you think that'll work?

I think it I mean it the story I read

certainly said that it would have an

impact it would be likely to have an

impact by buying all these mortgage

bonds because you'd be you know

on the market.

>> How many people understand buying

mortgage bonds?

>> Probably very few. [clears throat]

All right. Um, is the CES over

consumer electronic show?

>> I I think it might still be going on,

although it might be wrapping up. I'm

not sure really tracking when it ends.

>> I feel I feel like it was the the

disappointing show of electronics.

Once again, somebody's got a robot that

can do one thing, but if you had it,

you'd be unhappy because your robot only

does one thing.

>> Yeah, there certainly was. I think from

the stories I saw from there, there was

a lot of robots. There was a lot of AI.

I think a lot of the AI was kind of

disappointing or,

you know, not ideal use cases for AI. So

it seems like they that was a bit of a

dis a letdown.

Um there certainly was a lot of hype

around the robots.

Um so your robot butler idea, your

prediction may or may not come true. You

know, I'm interested like you said

earlier about whether the LG robot will

live up to the hype. Um, but it does

seem like there's like maybe even half a

dozen humanoid robots that are at least

being shown as something that might go

on sale this year.

[snorts]

>> If you want to let more people in, we

can. We can go view them.

>> Or few more people.

>> You can accept anybody you want. Whoops.

>> Whoops.

>> I think everybody's accepted now.

And there's an auto mode.

So in theory

view all

>> I think if we just accept some of these.

[snorts]

>> It's very it's hard to know if they're

already accepted.

>> All right, we're going to let in a bunch

of people.

See what happens. [snorts]

um

invite participants.

Well, in theory,

in [clears throat] theory,

there are new people being invited right

now as we speak.

>> They just have to turn on their

>> what?

>> They have to turn on their camera.

>> Okay. If anybody wants to join and turn

on the camera. There we go.

>> Who we got here?

Hi, Scott. My name is Anthony.

>> Hey,

what's [clears throat] up?

>> Not much, man. I love you so much. I've

been listening to you for like 10 years

when I was like 21 or something. You've

helped me so much. Job promotions, now

engaged to a fiance, just your reframes,

all those things, man. All those little

lessons, talent stack. I can't thank you

enough. [clears throat]

>> That's what I want to hear.

Is that

>> Christina here calling in from France?

>> So are you from France? You said

>> calling in from France. Yes. Listening

to you for the 10 years at least. What

an honor. How what an emotional moment.

I am also Venezuelan by birth, legal

naturalized US citizen. So I do have an

interesting perspective about what's

going on in Venezuela at the moment.

Give give us your perspective.

Well, a lot of people, a lot of

Venezuelans are have always been, it's

probably 50/50, proTrump and very much

against

and uh [sighs] the against have been

calling us the Maguelans in a porative

way and they are all now coming around

to being very grateful to President

Trump for for what he has done for the

country. Of course, the first reaction

was that everyone wanted Marcina in and

everyone was like, "WTF? Why is she not

the the president as she should be

rightfully?" But uh more and more of the

thinkers of the country have been coming

around and actually commenting very

publicly that Trump is doing exactly the

right thing because Maria Korina would

not have in not even remotely the

possibility of commanding the the

military or any kind of the of the

remaining institutions of the country to

to bring order back into the country. So

from the Venezuelan perspective,

everyone is extremely happy and grateful

to the United States and in particular

to President Trump.

>> Wow.

[clears throat] So how long has it been

that people were proTrump?

>> Well, a lot. It's a little bit like the

Cubans.

Venezuelans have been suffering.

Socialism has been suff suffering at the

hands of of leftist ideology. So, so

most people are are not buying any of

the nonsense of of the left. Um, having

said that, you do get a little bit of of

what traditionally uh Latin America has

a little bit of a of a leftist heart.

So, so there's that conflict. However,

Venezuelans have experienced in their

own flesh what it is to be to be under

the the boot of of communism. So, so

automatically you you are on the right.

[clears throat]

>> Well,

what's your take on Europe in general

and backing?

>> Right. Um, a little bit more about me.

I'm actually a graduate of the Harvard

Kennedy School of Government and um and

I think I am the only one of my

classmates that is actually a registered

Republican and has voted for Trump three

times. I have constant battles with my

my friends from that time and and

everyone is of course in the in the

academic elite where where they have

this democrat superiority. In terms of

Europe, um my husband's German and I

have been living in Germany for for

several years now. Um

the it's difficult because on the one

hand Europeans mostly see what's

happening in terms of the problems with

immigration and and the the decline in

in the culture. However, there is, at

least in Germany, where I live, there is

this um knee-jerk reaction against a

party like the AfD

um because of course of of Germany's

past.

It's it's it's difficult to say. I I

have friends in in different levels in

different of the of the levels of

society and and and the people the the

the handyman the people you talk on the

street they have no qualms in saying

they vote AFD and and it's it's nonsense

what the elites are doing to to the

people of Germany as a country. You

still have, of course, the elites

saying, "Oh my god, the AFD, no way.

It's fascism and we can all go that way

again and our history and this and

that." So, so, so I I don't know. I

think Europe needs to sink a little bit

deeper before it really realizes and and

it may be too late. I hope not.

>> Do you think uh that France will become

an Islamic country?

>> H difficult. We also lived in France.

I'm I'm vacationing in France at the

moment with my family. Um,

you know, it it is so difficult. You I I

don't know what to say. I I really hope

not. It's um

um Europe has changed. Whether they will

make a U-turn and pull the handbreak in

time, who knows?

>> I'm I'm I'm glad to be an American.

That's all I can say.

[clears throat]

Well, we're glad to have you.

>> It's so wonderful to be able to be a

part of this. Such an honor. Scott, I

love you. It's um Thank you, Shalley, by

the way, for being there. It's It's a

Wow. I It was a very emotional

simultaneous sip this morning. Thank

you, Owen, for that.

>> Yeah. Thanks, Owen.

>> Thank you, Owen.

>> Glad to do it. Let's uh bring you back

in, Owen. Is there any new tech news or

anything we wouldn't be watching while

we're being distracted by all this

international stuff?

>> Let me look through my tech stories. Uh

I think

>> I don't know how interesting it is, but

there's a change in the FCC. They're

going to allow higher powered Wi-Fi.

really

>> it's going to be able to operate

outdoors at higher power.

>> How much of a difference is that going

to make

>> saying it's

I mean it it's this new 6 gigahertz band

that they're going to allow and I think

it's supposed to support things like AR

and VR short range hotspots automation

and indoor navigation.

um [clears throat]

it doesn't really quantify how much

stronger it is, but I know there have

been restrictions on that and some

people complain about that certainly

inside their homes. Um I have that

problem where you know I have my Wi-Fi

router in my basement and it doesn't get

into most of my house so I have to add

more Wi-Fi spots.

Um and even then it's it's spotty in

places. So, I'm kind of looking forward

to this to being able to put a really

highowered Wi-Fi in my house. Maybe

it'll cause cancer, but [laughter] might

be worth it.

>> Maybe that's what got me. You never

know.

>> I hope not. Yeah.

>> You know, one of the things when you get

cancer, you go around thinking, "What

did I do? What did I do?"

But then I remind myself that for men,

the type I have is the uh you the most

common one. So if if I got the most

common one,

it's hard to complain that it was

because of some special case.

>> Yeah. I mean, I I've heard a lot about

prostate cancer. I know it is very

common in men. I certainly hope to avoid

it, but I've from what I've heard, a lot

of the cases are I don't want to call

them benign, but they're kind of

contained within the prostate. And

>> um you don't even really need to treat

it, but I know I've heard that almost

every man that reaches a certain age

will probably have some level of

prostate cancer.

>> Um so it certainly is a very common

condition.

>> I think he just got really unlucky, got

the aggress aggressive kind. Marcel, you

have a very good book behind you. Over

your left shoulder.

What is that book?

>> Wonder who wrote it.

>> How fell almost everything is so big.

>> Can you see my cat?

He's down there.

>> Oh, yes, I can see.

>> Diego. He's shy.

He's named after Diego Mando Maradona,

the soccer player, because he likes to

fight.

>> All right.

>> Do we have any else that would like to

come in?

>> I believe

it's his birthday.

>> Hi guys. [clears throat]

>> It's good to be here. Thank you for

having me on, Scott. Um, it's been a

long time and thank you for everything.

I just wanted to say appreciate you.

Love you. It's been crazy 10 years and

uh yeah, just thanks for making me part

of your community and giving me a

special place and and I [snorts] did my

best to fulfill the mission and uh I'm

going to keep going here. Whoever is

going to tolerate me, I'll keep doing

it. [laughter] So, here I am. So, here's

to you, Scott. Thank you very much for

everything.

>> It's your birthday today. Is that what

you said?

Yeah, I'm 50 today.

>> Happy birthday. That's a big one.

>> Yeah, it is a big one. So,

>> just thanks for having me on. I'm going

to uh sign off now. I just wanted to say

my peace and keep on watching and

posting some memes now. It's been weird

that I haven't been wondering what do my

thumbs right now and [laughter]

I listen to you and and here we are. So,

I'm going to sign off. So, thank you.

I'll talk to everyone later. if I would

I would interject a story that I posted

today that I think is good news. Um

might be a little sensitive for the two

of you, Scott and Shel, but um fentinel

deaths have dropped in the US

significantly. It was over 100,000 a

year and now it's at 81,000 in 2024.

And um they're crediting Biden's era as

far as you know it happened during his

term, but I think a lot of that had to

do with Trump in terms of putting

pressure on China and it looks like

they're chalking it up to a supply

disruption during the pandemic

>> that the supply of the precursor

chemicals got disrupted somehow and that

may have caused a lot less supply to

come into the US. And I certainly think

Trump had a lot to do with that and I

think you had a lot to do with that. So

I think you deserve some credit for

putting pressure on the administration

and putting pressure on China.

>> Good.

[laughter] It seems like it won't take

long to uh fix the distribution problem,

but it's a start.

>> Mhm.

>> And who do we have down here?

Is it Peter?

>> Yes, this is uh Peter. I just wanted to

say thank you for all the years. I'm uh

here managing two kids and the dog right

now as they build train tracks. Um but

I've been listening to you for pretty

much all 10 years. Sorry the odd camera

angles as I try to keep my kids faces

off camera. Um but I uh I'll go off

camera. Um, but I'll finish I'll finish

just audio. I've been listening to for

10 years pretty much every single day.

And there's a there's a point at which I

I tried to stop listening to you because

I thought, you know, I need to I need to

diversify who I'm listening to, you

know, listen to different podcasts,

etc., etc. And I just I couldn't I

couldn't quit you, Scott. Um, I kept on

coming back and listening to you pretty

much every single day. I I every every

uh Spotify your year wrapped was sort of

boring because it was I was always in

the top 0.1% of listeners to the Scott

Adams podcast. Um, and it's been it's

been amazing to be with you over the

past 10 years. And I just wanted to, you

know, thank you for

always being true to yourself, not

allowing yourself to be bought by any

any interest or any sponsor or um any

any media company. And I think I think I

speak for a lot of people that

that's one of the things that has kept

us coming back over the past 10 years is

it always felt whether we agreed with

you on everything or didn't agree with

you on everything, I never had a doubt

that you were saying your actual opinion

um pretty much all the time. So I I very

much appreciate that and uh I I'm very

appreciative of yeah just your

commitment and consistency and and your

virtual friendship over the past 10

years.

And with that, I'm going to get back to

the kids building choo choo trains.

>> Well, you got your priorities straight.

>> I like it.

>> Let's see.

>> Going to go wide here.

I wonder how long it will take me to

learn this.

Do we have anybody else that would like

to

I still want to say something, but I

don't know if it's a good time or not.

>> Go ahead.

>> Okay. Um, well, thank you, Scott, for um

I'm getting to talk to you right now. I

always thought that I was going to get

to to see you someday uh in person, but

I'm I'm doing it, you know, through this

and I'm very happy and I'm so happy to

meet Shelly and that's an an amazing

testament of uh your awesomeness that uh

your your ex is there for you right now.

I love that, you know, because u not

anybody can can develop that

relationship afterwards and and that's

amazing that you did that. So, thank you

very much. And um and and yeah, you you

taught me that free will is not is an

illusion and that's the one the most

important thing because now I know that

everything around me is affecting my

behavior all the time. So, I need to

watch out for my uh surroundings. And um

that's why you are half of my five

people basically. And I don't know what

I'm going to do, you know, without you

because I I'm like a lot of you right

now. And um I'm going to learn to be

more like like like uh everybody else,

too. So, thank you very much. And hey,

is that Gary?

>> That's Roman.

>> Roman.

>> Roman. Hi, Roman. Well, that's it,

Scott. Thank you very much. And uh and

any advice ever that you have for me or

anything, let me know. Thank you.

>> So, you know, you're the best. You know,

there's a half a dozen people who

regularly participate and when I don't

see all of you, I get disappointed.

And uh there there's something more than

the news that has developed here. And

the part I didn't anticipate is the

bonding and the ability to feel

like you're part of something.

And I think that worked. It wasn't a top

priority or anything. But once it

started being a a thing,

that's the part that seems to be the

most powerful.

So over time,

we will put on more of a, you know, why

did you learn? How did you learn it? And

but at the moment it feels appropriate

that

we're still struggling along and that

the struggle is about you know how do

you make the technology work in a way

that uh works for everybody.

So um I hope you can see

uh I hope you can see the uh

all the work that gets put into just

trying to make this work. I I swear to

God this is probably easy

but not to me.

And I'll say again uh that um the amount

of pharmaceutical drugs I had to put

into me yesterday so that I could

function.

It's the most I remember it. And just to

give you example,

>> I've got a password

that is very easy. You know, it's not

any kind of weird crazy password,

but with the help of a nurse and about

25 attempts,

uh, I could I could [laughter]

I could tell her what I wanted. And

[snorts] the funny thing was I couldn't

spell it.

So, my password has

>> Let's not talk [laughter] about your

password.

>> Yes. tell us your passwords right now,

please.

>> Yeah, let's let's not talk about your

password too much.

>> That's why she's here. [laughter]

I'll just simplify it to say

uh it should have been really really

easy.

But but it went like I'm making this up

so you can't really use it. It'd be like

something like I would say, "All right,

the first part is squirrel."

And then I try to spell it. It'd be like

P J [laughter]

squirrel. A

and squirrel. It was the damnest thing.

I've never been that hallucinogenic.

>> That's awesome, Scott. You deserve the

best uh military grade drugs.

>> All right, we're go back.

>> Thank you very much. I'm going to log

off now. I'm gonna have others jump in.

Thank you, Scott, for everything.

some more.

>> All right. I don't know what that means.

>> Just hit accept. Accept.

See if anybody else wants to

>> jump in.

>> Jump in.

>> So, let's check is

>> we got some new people.

>> Can I make one more comment?

Um, you've been explaining the world to

me for the past 10 years, Scott, and and

I am [sighs and gasps]

quite intimidated at the prospect of not

having those daily explanations. And I'm

hoping that this community that you

created will somehow

step in when you're not there to to help

understand what's happening in the

world. I mean, I hope you have trained

all of us uh to to continue to do that.

What do you say, Shellyley?

>> Oh, I think we did miss a little bit of

your the beginning of your u some

technical issues here, but um yes, we

would I would love to keep this going.

And you know, again, we're not techsavvy

here. We hope that we can figure this

all out and make this a little bit more

smoother process. But I think he's got

some great people uh community here that

I think could lead this um if we can

figure out if we can figure out how the

technology of it. Um

>> yeah. Yeah. The beginning of it was that

Scott's been explaining the world to me

for the past 10 years and and it is

quite daunting to the prospect of not

having those those daily lessons of of

exactly what everything means and what's

going on. And and again, I'm hoping that

this this community of of of people that

you have trained over the past years

will will step in and and I guess

selfishly continue to help me do that.

I hope so. I I really I really think I

think we could [clears throat] do it.

[snorts]

>> Might take a little time, but I think we

could do it for sure.

>> All right, let's see if Stephen with it

with the headphones on

can turn off his microphone.

>> Okay.

>> Hello, Stephen.

>> Hello, Scott.

My goodness.

I'll add Well, I don't think I can. Um,

I wouldn't be able to probably explain

the incredible [snorts] adventure that

has been this entire time uh that I have

had an opportunity to to watch you and

to learn from you. Now, I am included, I

think, among the slightly older group,

Gen Xer and so forth and would have been

one of those Rush Limbbo babies that

somehow migrated their way to to your

show. And of course, I he was all

through high school basically. you know,

the lunch I would walk home, run home in

order to be able to catch a show in the

middle of the day. And so, you know, he

was um you know, he was an an uncle type

as I was growing up. Well, naturally and

without any hesitation at all, as soon

as I stumbled across you and your show,

I immediately realized, okay, you know,

this this is going to be the next type

of person for um to be able to do that.

And you absolutely did. And so I admit

that I took as much of your advice as I

possibly could, that I tried to get

myself in trouble often. Um, and and

that um I I do have a thank you note for

you that I that I made and I suppose I

could read it. I don't know how much

inside stuff is in here. It was a long

time ago that I wrote this, but I didn't

want to be among the people who would

somehow mysteriously find out where you

lived and send you things because I was

already potentially beginning to garner

a reputation for the sort of person that

would do that out of malice. I never

would. Um, it was all it was it was fun

for me. And so I absolutely enjoyed

uh trying to fail my way to wherever I

am now. And and I promise for those five

years, it was it was the adventure.

Well, it's the second adventure of my

life. Um um I'd actually retired from

the military. I've been in for 24 years.

So it was a long time. I've had

basically a full career doing all of

that stuff. And then I had a chance to

bring whatever that experience was to to

you and uh to my life and my family

here. So

we go. Don't know how you'll be able to

see it or read it, but I thank you. Yep.

>> Okay.

>> Nice.

>> Nice.

>> All right.

>> Oh, yes. Well, not the not the thank you

part. No, I basically was using the card

the base of the card as the the thank

you foundation for everything and then I

would either draw or you know use emojis

whatever fill it. So it just, you know,

again, all I did was try to fail my way

through um trying to trying to copy you,

which actually, you know, for most

people, I would think that the the thing

they're missing in their life is they

don't have a good enough thing to try to

copy and and you can you can do an awful

lot just copying somebody else's really

good advice or their behavior. So that

was that's probably what I saw. You

know, Rush, of course, was somebody who

much much more than the political person

he became, but he proved to me what

happens to someone who actually is an

ordinary person who happens to become

somewhat successful. And then they

stumble into the political world and all

of a sudden they're either an angel or a

devil.

Um, so I wrote you a little joke

that's [clears throat] based on the

experience that I had. I'll I'll see. I

mean, I can read it. It's um I don't

know how much of it would be

would be understandable. Uh, but I

happen to write it on Sunday 3rd of

March 2024 at 1 123 4 p.m. because

numbers mean something apparently to

some people. And it's a cat, of course.

This it was in a little adventure that I

had where there was a cat who was the

woman who was always troubling me my

entire life, whoever she was. And so she

starts the conversation

and she says, "Stephen, no woman wants a

man to run around loving her with all

his heart no matter what."

And

no, because I know that deep down they

don't really want that. Although they'll

swear up and down if you actually try

that they don't like it.

It's true. Um anyhow, and the little

character that I had sort of created is

a copy again. Most everything's a copy

of maybe two or three things, but he's a

little guy who would say, as you so

famously did say, what?

Because we know that doesn't make sense.

They all want it.

And then I include a cloud, which to me

is a

it's the figure that's above us all, or

it's the thing that's above us all. Many

people would say it's God. To me,

certainly it is, but to others maybe not

so much. Doesn't matter.

But if he were in the room, he would

have said, "What too?" And so he would

agree with you as I would. So, okay,

everybody, that's the trick, I guess, if

there is one.

>> Do whatever you can to run around and

love a woman with all your heart, no

matter what, and just see what happens.

It'll be the greatest thing that's ever

happened.

>> Thanks, Scott.

>> Well, [clears throat] thank you for

that.

>> Thank you. Thank you.

>> Do we have anybody else that wants to

come in?

Crawley

is known as Crawley,

one of [clears throat] our regulars,

which we call the beloveds.

[snorts]

>> Do we need to accept more or how do we

>> Well, if we're not bored. Yes.

[laughter]

[clears throat]

It's a little after.

Um, but you have to approve them.

>> Oh, yeah. We have to go approve them.

They want to come in. Let's go prove

some more.

>> And let's accept some more.

>> Okay. [clears throat]

[snorts]

>> Just keep going. Scrolling down.

>> Just keep us.

>> There you go. Just Yeah. Just keep

accepting it.

>> And it looks like it limit.

>> Okay.

>> Okay.

So now we have a bunch of people

and

this gentleman

I guess the way I can tell if you want

to come up is if you show up on video

just to me.

So it looks like norm

I can't see from way over here.

>> Hi.

>> Hi. What's your name?

>> Norm.

>> Norm.

>> Hey Norm. Hey, Scott. Hey, Shelly. How

you doing? Nice to meet you.

>> Nice to meet you.

>> Finally get on here.

>> Hey,

>> somebody else [laughter] been a Been a

huge follower. Norm.

>> Yeah. Gotcha.

>> Yo

behind you.

>> What are you behind?

>> Oh, holy

Yep. [laughter] Surprise.

>> Surprise. What's your name?

>> I keep hearing myself over and over

again.

>> All right. Well, it looks like

Norm and

Ryan around here.

>> Oh,

>> hey B.

>> Maybe that's better. I think I did it.

>> You're both on the audio. So,

>> yeah. So, who would like to talk? Well,

I heard you talking about mortgage bonds

and I'm in the mortgage business, so I

figured I'd jump on because I'm pretty

pumped about Trump's uh buying the

mortgage back securities. That'll

definitely pump the rates down.

>> Now, explain to us like we're done how

that will help.

>> Okay. So, the last time that the

government bought mortgage uh act

securities, which is the bonds they're

talking about, was after the 2008

housing crisis.

So, what happens is the these bonds are

available for like think of it like a

mutual fund or a stock, but they're not

very attractive because they don't give

high high rates of returns like the

stock market and other mutual funds. So,

no one really buys them. So if no one

buys them, there's not a demand for

them. So the only way to get a demand is

the rates go up to the make it appealing

to an investor. You know, they want 7 8%

return on their money at least,

>> right?

>> Um so because there's no demand for

them, um they rates will go up. But once

there's a demand, meaning when the

country starts buying in that amounts,

it pushes the rates down because now

they're being bought by someone, in this

case, the government. So, it's the

government's way of manipulating the

rates to go down when the Fed doesn't

want to lower them. So, because he's

going back and forth with Powell,

uh, and Powell won't lower the rates,

the way the government can

do that is actually buy the bonds itself

in large quantities like it is. And as

long as he keeps buying them, the rates

will go down and go down and go down

because someone because now he's created

an interest, so to speak, by

manipulating the system.

only been done once before and it was

Obama did it a lot in 2008 to keep the

rates down when the Fed didn't want to

lower it and that's when rates were like

3 4%.

>> Did it work?

>> Yeah. Oh, yeah. It worked. It was the um

one of the biggest mortgage booms, you

know, in history besides the one we just

recently had with CO. COVID was the, you

know, the largest rate reduction when it

was two or 3%. But yeah, I mean rates

went down to three or four. I've been in

mortgages for 35 years and um been

watching been reading your column for

about the same amount of time and

totally um can uh understand,

you know, the whole corporate culture.

It made me want to open my own business

so I didn't have to answer to anyone.

>> Nice.

But yeah, it worked and it will work.

>> Yeah, thank you for sharing that.

>> Yeah, and look forward to um your future

streams.

>> But I don't want to take everyone's

turn, but

>> isn't isn't sort of a projection that we

have a 5.4 GDP?

Um I'm not familiar with the the gross

domest domestic product but I know the

numbers came out recently yesterday the

unemployment is going down which always

helps. I mean,

at the end of the day, all the all the

numbers are in line for lower rates, but

it's became a political thing with

Powell and Trump where Powell just won't

rate lower the rates or if he does lower

them, he in his in his um comments that

he does to the people, he'll put

something like this doesn't guarantee

they'll be cut the next time. So, he

does all the right wording just to keep

the rates high.

Wow. [snorts]

>> Correct, Scott. You're correct. Adobe

Atlanta Fed nearly doubled their Q4

growth estimate to 5.4% from 2.9% for

GDP.

Um,

>> wow.

>> Capital described it as massive

expansion

largely attributable to the narrowing

trade deficit and that was another story

that the trade deficit has been slashed

to like as low as it's been since 2009.

Um, so the trade deficit is way down.

Um, and the quote from Geer Capital is,

"We're running it hot. Get on board."

>> All right.

I don't think I've ever seen that in my

lifetime, have I?

5.4

um, GDP.

>> I don't think so. That's incredibly

high. Um, I could ask Grock to see if it

can tell me when we've had that before,

but I don't recall that ever in my

lifetime.

>> Oh, do that. Ask Rock. See what I'm

saying?

>> It'll take It'll take a minute.

>> Who do Who do we have on the screen?

Who's the other person on the screen

here?

>> Oh, hi. Uh, I'm Brian. I'm not sure if

you could hear me.

>> We can hear you.

>> Oh, good. Hi, Scott. Hi, Shel. Um, hope

day. And uh I uh thought that uh a week

ago, well gosh, never met or chatted

with Scott directly. Hope to see you on

the other side. Um and but but now I

hope that's a long time from now. Uh,

[laughter]

>> and but anyway, been a Dilbert fan since

the early 90s when I was in engineering

school. And um, at least I don't know

when the book came out, what would

Wall-E do? But in the early 90s,

you know, when we were out working on a

lab, some might set something on fire.

We hit a inflection point and so, well,

what would Wall-Ally do? And, uh, that

became the catchphrase uh, at least for

my senior year in college. And um and

then you know I of course read your

books and uh you know got busy with a

family for 20 years and then um you know

2015 rolled around with Trump and things

got weird and I'd always voted

Republican except for when I voted for

Perau so you can blame Bill Clinton on

me and um but then I was really

confused. I would have an engineering

background, legal background, you know,

analyze things for a living and I really

was not understanding what I was seeing

and I paid more and more attention and

uh I'd lived in Connecticut at the time

and in 2016 I guess we moved to

Minnesota which is great freaking timing

umh to move to Minnesota after it

started its decline. Uh, but um 2016

rolls around and I really don't

understand what I'm seeing. And all I

could think of was, well, Trump's trying

to get attention or something. I don't

think any of this is real. And I was

confused until I saw the the the cover

of the Win Bigly book with, you know,

Dog Right with the Trump hair. Didn't

understand what it was about, but I

said, I need to own that. And that was

eye-opening

uh for me. Must have been 2016 and uh

read Chelini's books after that. And I

actually reached out to Chelini with a

poster of my daughter. I took the

teachings and put it on a big poster

board of complete BS of persuasion uh to

help her sell Girl Scout cookies,

pictures of this, which is funny.

Chilini writes back and said that made

me laugh out loud and uh told him how

much I liked his books and uh I was able

to mail them to him uh influence and

persuasion. He signed them and sent them

back. So those are two of my more

cherished possessions. So, but I really

I don't know how I would have gotten

through the last 10 years without your

filter because I once I read your book

and started listening to your podcasts

on Periscope, everything made sense and

it has ever since. Um, so thank you for

that. And then the last thing I would

like to thank you for is I think during

one of your live streams where you were

doing drawing Dilberts a few years ago,

I had you laughing pretty good at some

of my suggestions because of the asinine

life I experienced at many law firms,

but in particular the one I was at at

that time that I've since left and I'm

proud to say that a couple of my

suggestions made it into one or two

panels of a couple of Dilbert strips

that appeared not long after that. Um,

so those are two two of my most prized

uh possessions. I keep those uh you know

printed out on um you know at the

office. Anybody asks I'm like well this

is how this came to be. Um you know and

then they call me you know a racist and

um I said thank you and uh you know but

but thank you for everything.

>> Are you in a gym?

>> Are you at a gym or is that your

>> Oh no. This is my man cave. Um, I have

uh my wife lets me use a part the part

of the basement of our house that's on

the other side of a garage and um I have

packed my entire life into this room and

weight equipment in the garage uh as

well along with radio control cars and

you know college banners and proud MIT

graduate and uh uh that's uh that's me.

[clears throat]

>> I probably could have guessed you were

an MIT graduate.

>> [cough]

[clears throat]

>> But you're the first one I've seen who

doesn't wear glasses.

[laughter]

No, I don't I I I use glasses for

driving. Um I'll probably need them for

reading and not very long. Um yeah, but

for now uh you know, but for now I don't

need them. MIT was an amazing experience

and uh law school after that was kind of

like a vacation. I just went to Boston

College Law School in the late 90s and

her class was 55% women. I just kind of

kicked back and had fun. Um before

spending the last 25 years getting

ground through nine or 10 different law

firms. So

>> wait, you're telling me that MIT was 55%

women?

>> Boston College Law School. Uh MIT was a

sword fight. Uh

kind of leave it there.

But um but it was a great both were a

great experience but for different

reasons. Uh I I did nuclear fusion at

MIT and then there were no jobs in

fusion back then which should not be a

surprise. And then I went to to law

school after that.

>> Wow. What [snorts] was the coolest thing

you invented that we don't know about?

Oh, um I don't know if it's a I didn't

end up on the patent, but because I

didn't understand how patents worked

back then, but um I worked on a uh uh

microwave emissions metals monitor in

grad school. And the idea was uh it was

similar to the idea if you go to to an

analytical lab these days and you want

to find out how many parts per million

of you know season you know some metal

or in a solution they'll nebulize it and

run it through this little thing called

a an inductively coupled plasma and they

can get very accurate readings down to

like you know parts per million. You

know whether you go to like a polymers

lab or whatever you want to find out how

much metal's in a plastic um that's how

you do it. Uh but we were trying to use

a more robust version of a like a

tabletop plasma. Um that was a microwave

induced plasma which is like a big

rectangular wave guide with a hole

through the end and you shoot air

through the end. Turn on the microwaves

and you have something that looks like a

little torch. And then what we would do

is we would take effluent from an

exhaust stream, run it through the

plasma and then we would have fiber

optics that would view the light that

was emitted from the plasma. What what

would happen is if you had a metal

particle flying through the gas um it

would um

get the electrons in the outer shells

would get excited and then when they

came back down within fraction of a

millisecond it would give off light at a

certain frequency and wavelength and you

would detect that. So you could figure

out in real time what was going through

the gas stream. The problem was uh we

could never really quantify it to say

that oh you know there's this much you

know going that went through uh my

master's thesis concerned that topic and

you we did the best we could it was very

sensitive so you could tell if something

was going through it and when uh but

that was about it and so there was a

patent for that and I made a couple of

minor contributions to it uh but didn't

end up on the patent uh but that's okay

because it never got commercialized So,

>> did anybody notice me falling asleep?

[laughter]

>> Yeah, I was very I'm sure you're very

excited by that and I apologize. So,

>> Oh, not because of your story.

>> It's definitely not because of your

story.

>> Okay.

>> All right. So, it looks like we have

What is your name? Michael.

Michael, turn off your microphone.

>> Turn on you mean

>> turn on your microphone.

Oh, can't hear you.

>> Not yet.

>> Not yet.

>> Turn on your microphone.

>> Whoops. Disappeared.

>> All right. Who Who do we have here? I

can't see the name. Can you see her

name?

>> How about Patty?

>> Patty? Is this Patty?

>> Hello? Can you hear me?

>> Yes, I can hear you.

>> I am so excited to talk to you. Good

morning.

>> Good morning.

>> Morning. I said yesterday

after

which I couldn't um participate in

yesterday. I was at work and as the live

stream closed I said

tomorrow I'm going to talk to Scott

Adams

and I've spent the last hour trying to

figure out how to get the link and I've

finally figured it out and I've had so

many interruptions in my home and I was

like I am determined I'm going to talk

to Scott today.

>> Well,

>> here's your chance.

>> Here you are. I um you said something on

your show the other day I wanted to

address

um and I don't expect a response because

this is a private thing for you but I do

want to comment. Um, people were uh

suggesting

titles for your book, I believe, and one

of them was Escape from Prisoner Island.

And you said, "I didn't escape."

And I thought,

"If you convert to Christianity,

you escape."

>> Oh,

>> Jesus said he came to set the captives

free.

And I just wanted to tell you that

because the minute you said it, I

thought, "No, no, no. You did escape."

And uh

>> well, we'll find out what escape means.

>> Well, yeah,

that is true.

>> So,

>> you have you have just been a joy for

all of us. I I've followed Dilbert

from the very beginning. I um used to

think, I wonder what kind of person

writes this because

he makes me laugh every day. I have two

Dilbert comics on my um wall at work. My

boss comes in and laughs about them and

he doesn't realize that they're about

him. I'm sure you hear that a lot.

[laughter]

>> Yep.

>> And uh

you are the highlight of my morning

every morning. And thank you for that.

>> Well, thank you for noticing.

>> You've changed my life.

>> Now, how does a comic change your life?

>> Well, it's not because you're a comic.

It's I think because you're a sage.

>> Oh, thank you.

>> Did we figure out how to get our mic on

there?

>> I'm talking to Michael. Oh, he's No, we

still can't hear you.

>> So, Michael, there is a microphone on

your side that must be activated

and you can talk at the same time as

Patty. It won't cut you off.

So, Patty, was there anything else you'd

like to add while [snorts] Michael was

looking for his microphone?

>> Oh, I hope Michael finds his microphone.

>> It's down at the bottom, Michael. It is

at the bottom on the left.

>> You have to press it a few times.

>> I'll just jump in with a followup by ask

about the GDP rate. There actually have

been several times when it's been higher

than 5.4% but it's always been during an

e economic recovery. So if you remember

the early 80s

and the late 90s when we were really hot

the economy.

Um, [clears throat] of course the late

90s was right before the dot bust,

but um, those are the only times it's

been that way. The only other really

exceptional one is dur in the pandemic

recovery. It got really high even 34%

one quarter,

but that's kind of a anomaly.

>> All right.

So, Michael,

you might be dyslexic

because you can

>> [laughter and gasps]

>> because you're confusing microphone with

video.

So, one of them should be off.

>> I thought of something else I'd love to

tell you, Scott.

>> Yeah, go ahead, Patty.

>> I have a a teenage grandson

that is um he's very insecure.

He

He just has a lot of issues going on.

and he was with me recently

and I you know teenagers are they love

anime and Marvel comics and all of the

superhero movies

and I said I said to him, "Hey, would

you like to have a superpower?"

He and of course he was like, "Yeah, of

course we all want to have a

superpower." And I said, 'Well, here's a

superpower that you can have.

You become unmbarrassable.

And I said, 'Think about it, Brener. If

I'm sorry, I wasn't going to use his

name, but um I said, think about it. If

if you could have anything happened to

you in your life and you do not you you

are it's in impossible for you to become

embarrassed,

you will have a superpower. and he

started thinking about that and we

talked about it a lot and he really

loved the idea and I told him where I

got the idea was from Scott Adams and uh

the creator of of a very famous comic

called Dilbert and he I said that you'd

written several books and so he asked if

he could have one of your books and I'm

going to give I what would you suggest

for a teenager? How to fail at anything?

>> Yes.

[clears throat] So from age of 14 on

that field almost everything and still

one big

>> okay he's 13 so on his 14th birthday

I'll give him that book

>> and

>> thank you for that

>> that would be kind of a tie between wind

biggly and reframe your brain

>> I love reframe your brain you know I've

done reframing since I was a kid um a

teacher read some books to us about

about a character named Mrs.

Pigglewiggle. I don't know if you've

ever heard of her.

>> I've not. And um I used those kind of as

an inspiration when I was a kid that I

would create a reframe situation where I

was my mom would tell me to go clean my

room and I didn't want to clean my room

but I would pretend that if I didn't get

it done in a certain amount of time that

a wicked witch was going to come in and

cast a spell on me and I would get it

done and I would have fun doing it

because I know there was no wicked witch

coming. But it was a fun pretend game

and I did that with all kinds of areas

in my life. And so when the Reframe book

came out, it just made so much sense to

me and I really love it. I I read it

frequently and I just pick it up for um

a daily tip of the day. I really like

it. Thank you for that.

>> Good. That's the order I like to hear

them being read in. [snorts]

So, um, we should probably close down,

but not before we give Michael one more

chance.

>> Yeah. Where is Michael? Where are you,

>> Michael?

Looks like he has something else to do.

[laughter]

Sean Corey.

All right, I think we've done all we can

do today.

I apologize again for falling asleep on

camera, but I warned you. I warned you.

This is the most medicated I've ever

been in my life. It was a wild trip. So,

thanks for sticking in there and I will

soon figure out how to train you to uh

have more interesting

uh dreams.

All right, everybody. Say goodbye to

Shelly.

Bye, Shelly. Thank you. Nice meeting

you.

>> See you all.

>> Bye for now.

>> Bye.