Episode 1248 Scott Adams - Trump's Final Scorecard, Vatican Blackout Conspiracy Theories, and More

kicked you off the last screen but try it again all right hey everybody glad you could join us and if you would like this to be the highlight of your day i think you know what you need and all this is a copper mug or glass a tanker chalice or steiner canteen jugger flask a vessel of any kind fill it with your favorite liquid i like coffee and join me now for the unparalleled pleasure of the dopamine hit of the day the thing that makes everything good it's called the simultaneous hip go we do have a double white board yeah you probably signed on today and you're thinking to yourself god i hope there's a white board too double whiteboard wait till you see it it'll be the best thing of the day all right here's an interesting factoid to tie things together uh rob henderson who i follow on twitter who's got lots of interesting psychology you know thoughts and he said around a study that said that envy so the feeling of envy is above all a phenomenon of social proximity so the point being that envy is what you feel about the people closest to you your neighbors so you feel a lot of envy to your next door neighbor maybe if they have more than you do but you don't care so much about somebody who's living on the other side of the world because you don't have exposure to them you only have envy for the people close to you but what happens if you're a species who evolved so youtube is back up if you're i think it is anyway looks like it's working so what happens if you're a species who evolves to have envy but luckily for you it's limited to just the people around you so you can kind of handle it well i got a lot of envy but at least it's just sort of the people around me and then you get the internet now suddenly you have instagram and social media and your ability to experience envy goes worldwide so you have this little problem which is you're envious of your neighbor now you're envious of the whole freaking world or at least the ones who are doing better than you and that seems to be every single person who posts because they only post their awesome day here's my vacation here's my good thing that happened etc so i've got a feeling that one of the ways that social media makes us all mentally sick is that we were not evolved to handle that much envy we we have a certain amount of envy capacity and it's just blown right through and so i wonder if instead of regulating social media with a publisher 230 or regulating them in terms of free speech or regulating them in any way maybe you should regulate them as medical devices see where i'm going with this because i think it would be trivially easy to show that uh social media has an impact on mental health would you even have to do a study i suppose it i suppose if you were talking about uh having some kind of uh medical uh regulation on them then you'd have to do some study because you want data on it but you wouldn't have to wonder how it's gonna come out right do you do you have any wonder about whether social media is affecting people's social mental health i mean not really right so why don't we just regulate it as a medical device i mean all of social media because look at the uh look at the conspiracy theories the the mental health problems that came out of it i would argue even that the attack on the capital you could blame trump and we'll do that later but i would say that all of these things are a mental health either directly or at least adjacent right because whatever is happening with the the let's say the most extreme conspiracy theorists are you kind of all the way into mental health problems or is that just people with different opinions at what point does belief in something that is obviously not true go from well that's just somebody who's less informed to actual serious mental health issue where's that line it's pretty blurry at the moment isn't it so if we wanted to most directly and usefully regulate social media it would be as some kind of a medical device i don't know what that would look like in terms of regulation but i could i could easily imagine for example children not being allowed to use it or to use parts of it wouldn't it be easy to imagine that children would not be allowed to use tick tock it's easy to believe you know when i say children maybe children under 12 or something like that there might be some cut off where you just don't want kids to have access to it at all you know they would be ruined for life if they did i think that would be reasonable so the the all of the other kinds of regulatory things don't really have a chance at this point but if we could produce enough evidence that has a medical element to it regulate it that way um a lot of trolls have been coming at me today uh well actually i'll get to that next that'll be the other side of the whiteboard and on the front side of the whiteboard i'm having people come at me today and say some version of this uh scott and dao now scott now will you admit that you were wrong all along about trump now now you can admit from day one scott scott scott scott you were wrong about trump and now is the time to admit it they say to me to which i say unlike my critics i can do a thing called math i could also compare things without being emotionally overwhelmed while doing it watch me do it right now watch how i am not emotionally overwhelmed by simply looking at the costs and the benefits of a situation now a lot of people can't do this for example here would be my impression of a trump hater trying to evaluate the pluses and the minuses of president trump we'll start with the minuses because his critics deal with those most productively now i give you my impression of a trump critic speaking about the capital riots which most people believe trump had some role in directly or indirectly encouraging this is the critic talking about president trump's flaws oh what a flaw whoa did you see that capital oh yeah look at it right there i'm not imagining it now i'm not imagining it now yeah look at the flaw it's right on television even republicans even republicans are saying it's a flaw so that's a trump critic talking about the capital protests man are they happy they're really happy now i'd like to give you an impression of that same protester talking about the good things that president trump did um mr trump critic what do you think of what trump did for the economy at least before the coronavirus well find people oaks drinks bleach no i'm just asking you just limit it to the economy let's say jobs how do you do on just jobs orange man orange man orange my bad okay how about uh you've heard that he's been nominated for two nobel peace prizes so how do you think he did in the middle east move the embassy probably gonna start a war isis so you can't really even have a conversation with anybody on this topic you literally can't have anything like a conversation so here's here's the way i look at it for those of you are going to ask me do you still think it was a good idea to support the president to which i say all presidents are deeply flawed just in different ways do you think jimmy carter was a winner george bush junior we have a lot of bad presidents uh so here's how i do it i make a list of the the benefits you got from your president and this would apply to any president so i could be talking about uh bill clinton here if i were talking about bill clinton he'd have a pretty big list of good stuff he did but he might have some you know negative things too that's the way i would look at any president so do i regret do i apologize for supporting trump despite the fact that we all agree he had a role in a very bad incident this week in which at least five people died horrible horrible but it doesn't make the other stuff go away you can be against his rhetoric and his personality and you know certainly you could be totally against everything that happened this week but that doesn't mean that he didn't appoint lots of judges defeat isis become the first president to take china seriously and push back he's got he's got two nobel peace prize recommendations he's you know he did good work in north korea all of that's real i didn't make any of that up right didn't make it up so to my critics um when you asked me if i feel bad that i supported the president i say why are you so bad at comparing things why don't why can't you do costs and benefits and then i'll do that impression of a trump's trump critic and that won't go well in that conversation i'm pretty sure all right um i asked this question on social media and was immediately mercilessly mocked mercilessly i say but i can take it and what i said was that it's too soon to know if the trump suspension on twitter will be viewed as one of the biggest mistakes in american history but is certainly a candidate now what happens when you say in public that banning trump from twitter might be one of the biggest mistakes in american history do all of my wise and honest critics do they come in and say you know you're right because this could be a landmark point in terms of freedom of speech now we'll talk about freedom of speech in private companies versus the government's version of it in a moment but do they say yeah you know you've got a point if we were to lose freedom of speech uh you know that the effect wouldn't immediately be obvious but eventually it would destroy the republic wouldn't you agree wouldn't you agree that without freedom of speech you're pretty much putting yourself on a path to dictatorship or destruction or something so to me it seemed like a pretty big deal that something that signals the end of freedom of speech our most bedrock necessary right that somehow that looks like it's ending and i had a historian come at me and say scott you should stop talking in public because you're embarrassing yourself because there have been much bigger problems you've got your civil war you've got your you know everything every kind of racism and war and everything and so people mentioned all of those various other problems to mock me for thinking that trump being kicked off of twitter is somehow as big as the civil war to which i say would there would there have been a civil war if you didn't have freedom of speech think about it would slaves be free if there was no freedom of speech would uh would abe lincoln ever been elected if they had no freedom of speech i would contend that basically everything good that's ever happened is because we had freedom of speech and if you get rid of that which i believe happened literally i think i think freedom of speech is actually no hyperbole i'm not saying this to make a political point to be provocative and get some clicks this is my honest belief the freedom of speech just ended this week it ended for all practical purposes you can still say things that nobody cares about right but if you say something that really would move the needle on social media you can't you can't so historians who are the experts believe that the loss of freedom of speech no big deal and they mocked me for my belief that it might be there's your experts believe the experts has anybody ever told you that you should trust the experts because they don't know the difference between somebody getting kicked off twitter and freedom of speech here's something we're learning that is deeply disturbing that when pence and his family i guess i don't know why the family was there but they were in i guess they were protected in a bunker during the capital riots and the incursion and they were hunkered down in a bunker while people within hearing distance were chanting hang pens can you imagine that imagine the pence family really didn't cause any trouble to anybody right if there's anybody who does not deserve um to be criticized in my opinion i know yours differ but i i'm no fan of mike pence in terms of his politics you know because i especially on the lgbtq stuff but you can't you can't take away from the fact he's been a damn good vice president in terms of what vice presidents are supposed to do so here's this poor guy who's been nothing but a loyal patriot and public service has to feel the end of his uh vice presidential career and maybe his political career listening to people on his own side until until then chanting about hanging him put yourself in that put yourself in that position it's scary enough that they're even using these words but imagine that you've done nothing but serve the country you've done nothing but serve the country and these are out there telling you that they want to hang you i've said again that the people involved in that should be executed i don't know if there's a legal way to do that but i don't think i don't think jail is good enough i think execution is in order if you get that far i don't think there's a legal way to do that i'm just saying in terms of how bad it was now uh it seems to me that we've got a problem here with oh let me let me just tie one other point together so we all saw the video of the shooting in which the some kind of law enforcement person shot a woman who is a protester who is coming through a broken window on a door now here's my revised opinion on that my first opinion was what why are you shooting somebody who doesn't seem to have a weapon who is a woman who isn't really that close to you you know why why would you take that shot but now that i've heard this that there were people chanting hang pens does that does that change your opinion let me tell you if you put me on the jury and you say this police officer was here and here's the situation suppose and i don't know that this is true so i need a fact check on this suppose the people who were there when that shooting occurred the people in the crowd suppose they were chanting or any members of them were chanting hang pens now do you take the shot i would i would take the shot if if i heard a crowd chanting hang pence i would shoot the first one through the door weapon or no weapon you know what else i would do i would shoot the second person through the door too and then i would shoot the third person the fourth person i would shoot every person who came through the door if the crowd is chanting hang pence now if they weren't and that particular guard had heard nothing of the sort well then that's a different situation but if he even heard it if he heard it down the hallway if he heard it from even one person if you put me on the jury boom innocent you you get into the capital chanting hang the vice president and by the way the vice president didn't do anything he didn't do anything to deserve hanging if you're in the capitol chanting hang the president yeah you can shoot the first person through the door and that's not even a gray area to me not even a little bit gray now i think it's tragic i don't think she deserved to be killed i don't think what she was doing was worthy of you know lethal action but she was part of a crowd and if any one of them was inside the building saying hang pence you can shoot the first one through the door does anybody disagree with that because i'm wondering somebody says only if they are attacking i don't think so now i think that once you're inside the building that your threats have to be treated as the actual event somebody said did i see the video of it yes but what the video doesn't show is if there was any chanting prior to the shot so that's important if it turns out there was no chanting i have a different opinion of it no one got through the door though it doesn't matter you shoot the first one who's trying who shoots into a crowd nobody did he shot the person coming through the door um i just want to see that's a pretty extremist position i don't think it is it's not extremist to say that defense self-defense within the capital needs to be fairly extreme uh no proof nor evidence presented of what what part do you believe the chanting somebody says i saw videos and didn't hear that on any of them yeah that's why i need a fact check if it turns out nobody was saying that i do have a different opinion but think about it let me ask you this in retrospect was the shooter right no matter what people were chanting in retrospect now when the shot was first taken it was in the fog of war when we heard about it and it looked like on video that it was a bunch of harmless largely unarmed trump supporters that was my first impression and i thought that the way they got through the security was simply by having numbers i didn't realize that there were some with lead pipes who were actually in one case killing a police officer seriously injuring others so it was way worse than you know it looked on video but suppose we know now that a number of them have said they had plans to do harm and had weapons there were guns that got into the capital there were guns base these twist ties and all that now that you know that the some members of the uh of the group were armed had intended danger even though it was very small percentage but you know they were there what's that tell you about the shooting again you put me on the jury and i say that that guy used good judgment because he's the one who knew that that crowd was dangerous and he stopped it by shooting the first person through the window now tragedy we all wish that that hadn't happened but when we first heard the story you were kind of thinking there were no weapons there right the guy who took the shot he was right he was right if they had gotten through that barrier it would have been people with weapons who got through the barrier now that you know that that they had weapons what do you feel about the shooting put me on the jury i get them off completely i don't even have a slight i don't even have a slight whiff of doubt that that was a proper shooting so i support completely the guy who took the shot under the new information that people were armed he apparently took a big risk personal as well as professional right he took a really big risk but he was right right now you probably wouldn't advise somebody in that situation to do what he did but you can't ignore the fact he was right right that counts being a hundred percent right has got to be a good defense so uh absolutely that was an appropriate shooting even though the individual who got shot was not the right person to shoot but i don't think it mattered under the situation it's a it's a mob um i saw at least one video of some some uniformed law enforcement person as they were letting in the letting in the people in the side door i don't know who opened the door but it was clear that the uniformed police were supportive of the protesters but i think they also miscalculated thinking it was a bunch of peaceful maga people just like any mega rally and they figure well they're not going to be armed you know these are the ones who don't burn things in riot but they were wrong they were wrong there were some people in the group who absolutely were going to do bad stuff so that looks like a massive police failure and it's good that the leadership of the of the at least the capitol police resigned that was appropriate um let's see what else we got going on here a lot of people telling me that trump getting kicked off of social media is not a is not a blow to free speech because free speech and let me explain it to you like they explain it to me scott oh you're so dumb don't you know the free speech is the government it's not about private industry private industry can do anything they want you know if it's legal but there they don't have to guarantee your freedom walmart doesn't have to guarantee your freedom social media doesn't need to guarantee your freedom there's nothing in the constitution that would require that scott scott scott you low information idiot so that's what i've been listening to for the last 48 hours let me add a little to that argument first of all to my critics who explained to me that freedom of speech is a feature of government and not private industry let me respond to you this way i knew that pretty much most people were smart enough to be in the conversation they knew it too so why are you telling me something you know and i know and you should know i know it as an argument it's not an argument to tell me something i already know you need to add something to it here's my argument because i'm not pedantic and i live in the real world and it goes like this if you look at the arc of time from let's say 1770s to today lots has changed for example the media has consolidated back in 1776 freedom of speech if your newspaper didn't want to print it i suppose you could go to another newspaper or you could write it on a scroll or you could yell it in the town hall those are the only tools you had but at least you had options right as the media consolidated coming towards 2022 it became certainly your right to have free speech but in a practical sense if you don't have free speech on the dominant speech platforms you don't really have freedom of speech what you have is a legal right that you can't use let me give you an example if you were in a coma do you have freedom of speech the answer is yeah you do you're in a coma but you have freedom of speech does it help you what are you going to do with your freedom of speech when you're in a coma you don't have real freedom of speech technically you do but in all practical ways do you have freedom of speech when let's say you're in jail and you're not allowed to talk to the outside world and you're in solitary confinement do you have freedom of speech well legally legally yeah but in a practical sense do you not really not in any practical sense if you if the only way that people communicate in any effective way in other words communicate with lots of people if the only good way to do that is social media and that's the way it's evolved and you can't use it do you have freedom of speech technically you do technically you do but do you have it in a practical sense no not even close so here's the question do the do the way we think of freedom of speech or the way we thought of it in 1776 is it the way we should still be thinking of it or and i'll just put this out here should we take into consideration a changing environment is that crazy because my critics will say it's not in the constitution i know that i know that i know it's not in the constitution but thanks for telling me over and over i'm telling you that we should adjust so that our rights are compatible with the reality on the ground and the reality on the ground is if you get kicked off of social media you're effectively closed out from freedom of speech and so we should consider whether we want that to go to be the situation or not now i've heard the argument scott scott's got if you don't like these platforms just go start your own go over to parlor gab go over to rumble you've got options just like these guys in fact you probably have more options than they had because of all the new social media platforms but really really let me tell you what that sounds like to me it sounds like if i tell you that the local energy company that has a monopoly in your town if they decide to stop selling you electricity do you have options you do yeah you could take a balloon and rub it on your hair and it would create static electricity so why do you need the electricity from the power company when you could just rub a balloon on your hair that's the argument that my critics are giving me about social media scott you don't have to be on twitter you could shout from your porch you could go on parlor where nobody hears you except the people who already agree with you so there's no point in talking to them so do you really have options technically yes and if you're really really stupid you think that those options matter they don't they don't matter if you're not on twitter you just don't exist in our world or the other social media so if you think rubbing a balloon on your hair is the same as having electricity then yeah going to parlor is just like being on twitter but it's a stupid argument because in the real world these are monopolies they're good ones i love twitter twitter is awesome but they're monopolies for all practical purposes again maybe not in a tactical sense but in a practical sense there should we update our school textbooks to reflect the end of free speech that just happened don't you believe that we should not be teaching kids that we have freedom of speech in a practical sense because we don't as of today if your kids are taught in school that they have freedom of speech that's not true they only have freedom until some big company tells them they don't and then they don't and by the way do you think that the social media companies would have done what they did without pressure from the government no way this was the government suppressing your free speech you tell me that those social media companies could all make their own private independent decisions yes they can do you think they did not a chance not a chance the government or members of it pressure the social media companies and then the social media companies cave and do what the government wants the government being democrats so when you argument you argue with me that the government is not the one who is suppressing your freedom of speech it's twitter you're a idiot that's not what's happening it's the government pressuring the companies and the companies being compatible with or agreeing with the government go along with it not one of those companies was going to ban twitter because they wanted to right well maybe i mean i don't want to be a mind reader so i suppose anything's possible but if you're telling me that the government is not pressuring the democrats in this case if you tell me they're not pressuring the social media companies to get rid of trump well that's just stupid because you can see it it's right in front of you you they're actually doing it in public am i wrong that the government is in public calling for the social media companies to ban freedom of speech for a member of the public this is happening right in front of you i'm not making anything up you're watching it everything i've said except the internal intent part is something you can just observe on the plus side trump derangement syndrome was cured i don't know if you've noticed that but tds has actually been cured and here's why for four years trump uh haters were sure that he was the devil and hitler but every time he did something it wasn't matching their opinion so if your opinion doesn't match your observation it's like he's a racist wait he did what with prison reform who departed he's he hates the jewish people he did what with the embassy wait israel is going to name a town after him so we've had four years of the the worst imaginations of who trump was being completely opposite of observation in order to square the circle they had to patch it up with hoaxes so they would put in the fine people hoax to to prove the thing that was observably not true so they you know they patch it up with a hoax and that's what your cognitive dissonance is so cognitive dissonance which is trump derangement syndrome is when your observation and your belief don't match so you have to you have to connect them with a hoax or an illusion or a hallucination so that's what it is now what happens if you get to this last part last week of trump and finally finally for the first time that's my dog sleep barking if you hear that hey stickers i have to wake up my dog she's ruining my whole periscope okay so what happens when you finally get a situation where somebody who thinks trump is dangerous can observe how he acted about this capital protest stuff and they could say finally finally my opinion and my observation oh they finally fit so good so good now because they're also idiots they believe that this one observation cancels out all four years of his accomplishments so the belief from the the tds recoverers because they are recovering it's the first time their observation matches their belief now they're revising the last four years to say well nailed it nailed it yeah maybe trump did accomplish more than any president in the history of presidents i think that's true for the economy and for world peace and for trade negotiations and prison reform and all kinds of stuff but well he sure screwed up that last week that's for sure so i think in a weird weird unexpected way and i mean this literally i think trump derangement syndrome was kind of cured accidentally now they still have crazy thoughts about the past but as long as it's cured at the moment it will probably be cured going forward there's a big story on social media that is so delicious i was worried that things would not be interesting after trump left but maybe we're just in a world of things are more interesting so apparently the lights went off in the vatican and when i say apparently i mean i don't believe anything i don't know if the lights really did go out in the vatican it's being reported it's on social media but i don't necessarily believe it happened but let's say it did it's being widely reported this has caused all manner of conspiracy theories and they're all good ones so the popular one seems based on one obscure publication with zero credibility and it makes a claim that i'm telling you now is not true all right i think i can stay on social media if i tell you in advance that i'm talking about a claim and it's not true which is that the pope has been arrested and charged with 80 counts of pedophilia now not a chance in the world that's true not a chance in the world other people are saying that it's uh related to the other conspiracy theory that italy had something to do with our election data and you know something went through italy and then the numbers changed and it went back and so somehow italy is involved with rigging the election and and this is this is the response to that nope no nope lights also went out in pakistan somebody said they went out around the eiffel tower i don't know if any of those are true certainly more likely coincidence now some people are saying hey maybe it's that solar winds hack and some some country is just testing their ability to turn off the electricity in different countries i doubt you would test it doesn't seem like testing it would be smart uh because you should test it against your actual enemy not the vatican so that would be a weird way to test that because if you tested it and you could see that it worked and people found it out then they would be able to harden their own systems against this so it's not really the thing you should test you should just do it when you're ready to start world war three so i don't believe any of the conspiracy theories i think just they had a grid problem is my guess and how would they get past the uh the guards the swiss guard how how would any security force turn off the lights and get past the swiss guard without without gunshots none of it makes sense so don't believe any of the vatican stories but they're fun um i saw an interview with uh remember that horned protester the one who got into the capitol he had the big viking horns and new shirtless and stuff well i saw an interview with him and uh the reporter said um you know why are you here you know why are you protesting and the guy with the viking horns looked right at the reported reporter and he said freedom now the touching part about this story is i don't even think he knew what the word freedom means but even so in his simple uneducated way even he knew it was important before he even knew what the word meant and so he was there protesting for his freedom and i just thought it was poignant so i just pointed out um all right let's see if i talk about everything i was going to talk about probably did i believe it did all right poor guy wants to be an actor yeah a lot of those people are being rolled up by the way uh if you ever do a public illegal thing with the cameras rolling you're gonna get caught i believe we will catch a hundred percent of the bad actors who were in the protest who also had no masks if they didn't have a mask definitely getting caught let me tell you something that antifa learned that apparently the mega protesters did not learn those masks can come in handy don't don't rule out the mask if you're going to be going and doing something illegal in front of a thousand cameras uh somebody's saying that the viking horn guy is an actor i think he's also an actor but he seems to like protests so here's a little away that many of you don't know there are people who just like going to protests and so there are people who go from you know protest to protest it's almost like a vacation hobby i spoke to one you know a few years ago i talked to somebody who literally would say hey there's protest happening i don't think he even cared too much what it was about he was just all down for protests so he just liked traveling and doing being part of the protest and stuff like that so i think there are people who perhaps the viking horn guy just likes the likes the ambiance just likes the practice all right civil disobedience means no masks well you have a good point if if it's really civil disobedience where you're not you're not doing a crime then no mask is better yes if you don't have a pandemic it's better uh it's also being reported coincidentally that the pope's personal doctor died of coronavirus i guess yesterday or today so there's a lot happening in the vatican but i don't think uh i don't think we have to uh worry about it all right that's all for now and uh i will talk to you tomorrow okay youtube you will be happy to know over on youtube that i finally got my adapter so that i can charge my ipad at the same time i've got my microphone connected so thanks to several of you who suggested i get that adapter um the five died of coven no no they didn't john brennan could be charged with treason if there was an insurrection you know i don't think i just don't think the deep state is going to get charged with anything why does your youtube get more time i'm sort of training people that periscope's going to go offline in a month or two a few months i guess so periscope will not be a product pretty soon so i'm i'm slowly accustoming people to maybe they should be on youtube but i don't want to push it yet so i just give them one more reason to be here and they can choose for themselves uh oh poland is passing laws against big tech suppressing speech i don't know what kind of law you can pass the problem is any law you pass is just going to be a problem that's why i think we have to treat it as a medical problem because at least then you can have data and say you know this hurts and this doesn't maybe uh bring in rumble when it goes live so rumble doesn't have a live option huh i don't think it does uh and when you're dropped from youtube then what well i'm on the locals platform it's a subscription platform if i get dropped from twitter i would probably lower my price on locals right now it's seven dollars a month for content that you won't see anywhere else i do a lot of micro lessons on persuasion and and systems for your life so if you like those things uh i think the people who are paying seven dollars a month think they're getting wildly more value than that at least that's what they say um let's see we regulate private companies all the time yeah but it's hard with opinion stuff and freedom of speech and what's appropriate not is just too subjective uh a bundle package would be good we're looking into that actually we might do some bundle packages and locals will have a live stream option i think at some point it doesn't have it yet but um if i had to guess where my fate is probably getting kicked off of the major platforms and probably only doing things on locals eventually but i'll stay on the other platforms as long as they'll keep me by the way it is my intention to never say anything that would get me kicked off a platform because i don't think i have to i don't think there's any necessity to say anything in a way that would get me kicked off of any platform and if i do that's on me isn't it because if i don't intend it well i guess it could be on somebody else if they just decide to get rid of me all right uh what's a locals so locals.com is where a number of creators go if they have content that is maybe not quite appropriate for the general public so a lot of stuff that i do especially the political stuff is nuanced so in the general public you can't say hey somebody did a good job on this but a bad job on this you just can't do it in the general public you just have to take aside and say your guy did everything right the other guy or gal did everything wrong and that's it so if you want to see anything smart you're gonna have to go somewhere that the general public doesn't doesn't exist all right um yes patrick byrne and others have said italy was involved but i'm not looking to that i'm not expecting that to prove out could be wrong yeah i'll do more robots read news i need to get back to that all right that's enough for now and i'll talk to you tomorrow

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uh rob henderson who i follow on twitter

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study that said that envy so the feeling

of envy

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so you feel a lot of envy to your next

door neighbor

maybe if they have more than you do but

you don't care so much about somebody

who's living on the other side of the

world because you don't have

exposure to them you only have envy for

the people close to you

but what happens if you're a species who

evolved

so youtube is back up if you're i think

it is anyway looks like it's working

so what happens if you're a species who

evolves

to have envy but luckily for you

it's limited to just the people around

you so you can

kind of handle it well i got a lot of

envy but at least it's just

sort of the people around me and then

you get the internet

now suddenly you have instagram and

social media and your ability to

experience envy goes worldwide

so you have this little problem which is

you're

envious of your neighbor now you're

envious of the whole freaking world or

at least the ones who are doing better

than you

and that seems to be every single person

who posts because they only post their

awesome day

here's my vacation here's my good thing

that happened etc

so i've got a feeling that one of the

ways that social media makes us all

mentally sick is that we were not

evolved

to handle that much envy we we have a

certain amount of

envy capacity and it's just blown right

through

and so i wonder if instead of regulating

social media with a

publisher 230 or regulating them

in terms of free speech or regulating

them in any way

maybe you should regulate them as

medical devices

see where i'm going with this because

i think it would be trivially easy to

show that

uh social media has an impact on mental

health

would you even have to do a study i

suppose it i suppose if you were

talking about uh having some kind of uh

medical uh regulation on them

then you'd have to do some study because

you want data on it but you wouldn't

have to wonder how it's gonna come out

right do you do you have any wonder

about

whether social media is affecting

people's social mental health

i mean not really right so

why don't we just regulate it as a

medical device i mean all of social

media

because look at the uh look at the

conspiracy theories the

the mental health problems that came out

of it i would argue even that the attack

on the capital

you could blame trump and we'll do that

later but

i would say that all of these things are

a mental health

either directly or at least adjacent

right because whatever is happening with

the

the let's say the most extreme

conspiracy theorists are you kind of

all the way into mental health problems

or is that just people with different

opinions

at what point does belief in something

that is obviously not true

go from well that's just somebody who's

less informed

to actual serious mental health issue

where's that line it's pretty blurry at

the moment isn't it

so if we wanted to most directly

and usefully regulate social media it

would be as some kind of a medical

device

i don't know what that would look like

in terms of regulation

but i could i could easily imagine for

example children not being allowed to

use it

or to use parts of it wouldn't it be

easy to imagine that children would not

be allowed to use

tick tock it's easy to believe

you know when i say children maybe

children under

12 or something like that there might be

some cut off

where you just don't want kids to have

access to it at all

you know they would be ruined for life

if they did

i think that would be reasonable so

the the all of the other kinds of

regulatory things don't really have a

chance at this point

but if we could produce enough evidence

that has a medical

element to it regulate it that way

um a lot of trolls have been coming at

me today

uh well actually i'll get to that next

that'll be the other side of the

whiteboard and

on the front side of the whiteboard i'm

having people

come at me today and say some version of

this

uh scott and dao now scott

now will you admit that you were wrong

all along about trump

now now you can admit

from day one scott

scott scott scott you were wrong about

trump and now is the time to admit it

they say to me to which i say

unlike my critics i can do a thing

called math

i could also compare things without

being

emotionally overwhelmed while doing it

watch me do it right now watch how i am

not

emotionally overwhelmed by simply

looking at the costs and the benefits

of a situation now a lot of people can't

do this

for example here would be my impression

of a trump hater trying to evaluate

the pluses and the minuses of president

trump

we'll start with the minuses because his

critics deal with those

most productively now i give you my

impression

of a trump critic speaking about the

capital riots which most people believe

trump had some role in directly or

indirectly encouraging

this is the critic talking about

president trump's

flaws oh what a flaw

whoa did you see that capital

[Laughter]

oh yeah look at it right there i'm not

imagining it now

i'm not imagining it now yeah

look at the flaw it's right on

television even republicans even

republicans are saying it's a flaw

so that's a trump critic talking about

the capital protests man are they happy

they're really happy now i'd like to

give you an impression

of that same protester

talking about the good things that

president trump did

um mr trump critic

what do you think of what trump did for

the economy

at least before the coronavirus well

find people oaks drinks bleach

no i'm just asking you just limit it to

the economy

let's say jobs how do you do on just

jobs orange man

orange man orange my bad

okay how about uh

you've heard that he's been nominated

for two nobel

peace prizes so how do you think he did

in the middle east

move the embassy probably gonna start a

war

isis

so you can't really even have a

conversation with anybody

on this topic you literally can't have

anything like a conversation so here's

here's the way i look at it for those of

you are going to ask me

do you still think it was a good idea to

support the president

to which i say all presidents are deeply

flawed

just in different ways do you think

jimmy carter was a winner

george bush junior

we have a lot of bad presidents uh

so here's how i do it i make a list of

the

the benefits you got from your president

and this would apply to any president

so i could be talking about uh bill

clinton here

if i were talking about bill clinton

he'd have a pretty big list of good

stuff he did

but he might have some you know negative

things too that's the way i would look

at any president

so do i regret

do i apologize for supporting trump

despite the fact that we all agree he

had a role

in a very bad incident this week in

which

at least five people died horrible

horrible but it doesn't make the other

stuff go away

you can be against his rhetoric and his

personality

and you know certainly you could be

totally against everything that happened

this week

but that doesn't mean that he didn't

appoint lots of judges defeat isis

become the first president to

take china seriously and push back he's

got he's got two nobel peace

prize recommendations he's you know he

did good work in north korea

all of that's real i didn't make any of

that up

right didn't make it up

so to my critics um when you asked me if

i feel bad that i supported the

president

i say why are you so bad at comparing

things

why don't why can't you do costs and

benefits and then i'll do that

impression of a

trump's trump critic and that won't go

well in that conversation i'm pretty

sure

all right um

i asked this question on social media

and was immediately

mercilessly mocked mercilessly i say

but i can take it and what i said was

that it's too soon to know if the trump

suspension on twitter will be viewed as

one of the biggest mistakes in american

history

but is certainly a candidate now

what happens when you say in public that

banning trump from twitter might be one

of the biggest mistakes in american

history

do all of my wise and

honest critics do they come in and say

you know you're right because this could

be

a landmark point in terms of freedom of

speech

now we'll talk about freedom of speech

in private companies versus the

government's

version of it in a moment but

do they say yeah you know you've got a

point if we were to lose

freedom of speech uh

you know that the effect wouldn't

immediately be obvious but

eventually it would destroy the republic

wouldn't you agree

wouldn't you agree that without freedom

of speech you're pretty much putting

yourself on a path

to dictatorship or destruction or

something

so to me it seemed like a pretty big

deal that

something that signals the end of

freedom of speech our most bedrock

necessary right that somehow that looks

like it's ending

and i had a historian come at me and say

scott you should stop talking in public

because you're embarrassing yourself

because there have been much bigger

problems you've got your civil war

you've got your you know everything

every kind of racism and war and

everything

and so people mentioned all of those

various other

problems to mock me for thinking that

trump

being kicked off of twitter is somehow

as big as the

civil war to which i say

would there would there have been a

civil war

if you didn't have freedom of speech

think about it would slaves be free

if there was no freedom of speech

would uh would abe lincoln ever been

elected

if they had no freedom of speech i would

contend

that basically everything good that's

ever happened is because we had freedom

of speech

and if you get rid of that which i

believe happened

literally i think i think freedom of

speech is actually

no hyperbole i'm not saying this to make

a political point

to be provocative and get some clicks

this is my honest belief

the freedom of speech just ended this

week

it ended for all practical purposes you

can still say things that nobody cares

about

right but if you say something that

really would move the needle

on social media you can't you can't

so historians who are the experts

believe that the loss of freedom of

speech no big deal

and they mocked me for my belief that it

might be

there's your experts believe the experts

has anybody ever told you that you

should trust the experts

because they don't know the difference

between somebody getting kicked off

twitter

and freedom of speech

here's something we're learning that is

deeply disturbing

that when pence and his family i guess i

don't know why the family was there but

they were in

i guess they were protected in a bunker

during the capital riots

and the incursion and they were hunkered

down in a bunker

while people within hearing distance

were chanting

hang pens can you imagine that

imagine the pence family really didn't

cause any trouble to anybody

right if there's anybody who does not

deserve

um to be criticized in my opinion i know

yours differ but i i'm no fan of mike

pence in terms of his politics

you know because i especially on the

lgbtq stuff

but you can't you can't take away from

the fact he's been a damn good vice

president

in terms of what vice presidents are

supposed to do

so here's this poor guy who's been

nothing but a

loyal patriot and public service has to

feel

the end of his uh vice presidential

career and maybe his political career

listening to people on his own side

until

until then chanting about hanging him

put yourself in that put yourself in

that position

it's scary enough that they're even

using these words

but imagine that you've done nothing but

serve the country

you've done nothing but serve the

country

and these are out there

telling you that they want to hang you

i've said again that the people involved

in that should be executed

i don't know if there's a legal way to

do that but i don't think i don't think

jail is good enough

i think execution is in order if you get

that far

i don't think there's a legal way to do

that i'm just saying in terms of how bad

it was

now uh

it seems to me that we've got a problem

here

with oh let me let me just tie one other

point together

so we all saw the video of the shooting

in which the

some kind of law enforcement person shot

a woman who is a protester who is coming

through a broken

window on a door now here's my revised

opinion on that

my first opinion was what

why are you shooting somebody who

doesn't seem to have a weapon

who is a woman who isn't really that

close to you

you know why why would you take that

shot

but now that i've heard this that there

were people chanting hang

pens does that does that change your

opinion

let me tell you if you put me on the

jury and you say this police officer was

here and here's the situation

suppose and i don't know that this is

true so i need a fact check on this

suppose the people who were there when

that shooting occurred

the people in the crowd suppose they

were chanting or any members of them

were chanting hang pens

now do you take the shot i would i would

take the shot

if if i heard a crowd chanting hang

pence i would shoot the first one

through the door

weapon or no weapon you know what else i

would do i would shoot the second person

through the door too

and then i would shoot the third person

the fourth person i would shoot every

person who came through the door

if the crowd is chanting hang pence

now if they weren't and that particular

guard had heard nothing of the sort

well then that's a different situation

but

if he even heard it if he heard it down

the hallway

if he heard it from even one person

if you put me on the jury boom innocent

you you get into the capital chanting

hang the vice president

and by the way the vice president didn't

do anything

he didn't do anything to deserve hanging

if you're in the capitol

chanting hang the president yeah you can

shoot the first person through the door

and that's not even a gray area to me

not even a little bit gray now i think

it's tragic

i don't think she deserved to be killed

i don't think what she was doing was

worthy of

you know lethal action but she was part

of a crowd

and if any one of them was inside the

building

saying hang pence you can shoot the

first one through the door

does anybody disagree with that because

i'm wondering

somebody says only if they are attacking

i don't think so

now i think that once you're inside the

building

that your threats have to be treated as

the actual event

somebody said did i see the video of it

yes

but what the video doesn't show is if

there was any chanting

prior to the shot so that's important if

it turns out there was no chanting

i have a different opinion of it no one

got through the door though it doesn't

matter you shoot the first one who's

trying

who shoots into a crowd nobody did he

shot the person coming through the door

um i just want to see

that's a pretty extremist position i

don't think it is

it's not extremist to say

that defense self-defense

within the capital needs to be fairly

extreme

uh no proof nor evidence presented of

what

what part do you believe the chanting

somebody says i saw videos and didn't

hear that on any of them

yeah that's why i need a fact check if

it turns out nobody was saying that

i do have a different opinion but think

about it

let me ask you this in retrospect

was the shooter right no matter what

people were chanting

in retrospect now when the shot was

first taken

it was in the fog of war when we heard

about it and it looked like

on video that it was a bunch of harmless

largely unarmed trump supporters

that was my first impression and i

thought that the way they got through

the

security was simply by having numbers i

didn't realize that there were some with

lead pipes who were actually

in one case killing a police officer

seriously injuring others

so it was way worse than you know it

looked on video

but suppose we know now that a number of

them

have said they had plans to do harm and

had weapons

there were guns that got into the

capital there were guns

base these twist ties and all that

now that you know that the some members

of the

uh of the group were armed

had intended danger even though it was

very small percentage

but you know they were there what's that

tell you about the shooting

again you put me on the jury

and i say that that guy used good

judgment

because he's the one who knew that that

crowd was dangerous

and he stopped it by shooting the first

person through the window

now tragedy we all wish that that hadn't

happened

but when we first heard the story

you were kind of thinking there were no

weapons there right

the guy who took the shot he was right

he was right if they had gotten through

that barrier

it would have been people with weapons

who got through the barrier

now that you know that that they had

weapons

what do you feel about the shooting put

me on the jury i get them off

completely i don't even have a slight

i don't even have a slight whiff of

doubt that that was a proper shooting

so i support completely the guy who took

the shot under the new information that

people were armed

he apparently took a big risk

personal as well as professional right

he took a really big risk

but he was right

right now you probably wouldn't advise

somebody in that situation to do what he

did

but you can't ignore the fact he was

right

right that counts being a hundred

percent

right has got to be a good defense

so uh absolutely that was an

appropriate shooting even though the

individual who got shot

was not the right person to shoot but i

don't think it mattered under the

situation it's a it's a mob

um

i saw at least one video of some

some uniformed law enforcement person

as they were letting in the letting in

the people in the side door

i don't know who opened the door but it

was clear that the uniformed police were

supportive of the protesters but i think

they also miscalculated

thinking it was a bunch of peaceful maga

people just like any mega rally

and they figure well they're not going

to be armed you know these are the ones

who don't

burn things in riot but they were wrong

they were wrong there were some people

in the group who absolutely were going

to do bad stuff

so that looks like a massive police

failure and it's good that the

leadership of the of the at least the

capitol police

resigned that was appropriate

um let's see

what else we got going on here a lot of

people telling me

that trump getting kicked off of social

media

is not a is not a blow to free speech

because free speech and let me explain

it to you

like they explain it to me scott oh

you're so dumb

don't you know the free speech is the

government

it's not about private industry private

industry can do anything they want

you know if it's legal but there they

don't have to guarantee your freedom

walmart doesn't have to guarantee your

freedom social media doesn't need to

guarantee your freedom there's nothing

in the constitution

that would require that scott scott

scott you

low information idiot

so that's what i've been listening to

for the last 48 hours

let me add a little to that argument

first of all

to my critics who explained to me that

freedom of speech

is a feature of government and not

private industry

let me respond to you this way

i knew that pretty much

most people were smart enough to be in

the conversation

they knew it too so why are you telling

me something

you know and i know and you should know

i know it

as an argument it's not an argument to

tell me something i already know

you need to add something to it here's

my argument

because i'm not pedantic and i live in

the real world and it goes like

this if you look at the arc of time from

let's say 1770s

to today lots has changed for example

the media has consolidated

back in 1776 freedom of speech

if your newspaper didn't want to print

it i suppose you could go to another

newspaper

or you could write it on a scroll or you

could yell it in the town hall

those are the only tools you had but at

least you had options

right as the media consolidated

coming towards 2022 it became

certainly your right to have free speech

but in a practical sense if you don't

have free speech

on the dominant speech platforms

you don't really have freedom of speech

what you have is a

legal right that you can't use

let me give you an example if you were

in a coma

do you have freedom of speech the answer

is

yeah you do you're in a coma but you

have freedom of speech

does it help you what are you going to

do with your freedom of speech when

you're in a coma

you don't have real freedom of speech

technically you do

but in all practical ways do you have

freedom of speech

when let's say you're in jail and you're

not allowed to talk to the outside world

and you're in

solitary confinement do you have freedom

of speech

well legally legally yeah

but in a practical sense do you

not really not in any practical sense

if you if the only way that people

communicate

in any effective way in other words

communicate with lots of people

if the only good way to do that is

social media and that's the way it's

evolved

and you can't use it do you have freedom

of speech

technically you do technically you do

but do you have it in a practical sense

no

not even close so here's the question

do the do the way we think of freedom of

speech or

the way we thought of it in 1776

is it the way we should still be

thinking of it or

and i'll just put this out here should

we take into consideration

a changing environment is that crazy

because my critics will say it's not in

the constitution

i know that i know that i know it's not

in the constitution

but thanks for telling me over and over

i'm telling you that we should

adjust so that our rights

are compatible with the reality on the

ground

and the reality on the ground is if you

get kicked off of social media

you're effectively closed out from

freedom of speech

and so we should consider whether we

want that to go

to be the situation or not now i've

heard the argument

scott scott's got if you don't like

these platforms

just go start your own go over to parlor

gab go over to rumble you've got options

just like these guys in fact you

probably have more options than they had

because of all the new social media

platforms but really really

let me tell you what that sounds like to

me

it sounds like if i tell you that the

local energy company that has a monopoly

in your town

if they decide to stop selling you

electricity

do you have options you do yeah

you could take a balloon and rub it on

your hair

and it would create static electricity

so why do you need the electricity from

the power company

when you could just rub a balloon on

your hair

that's the argument that my critics are

giving me about social media

scott you don't have to be on twitter

you could shout from your porch

you could go on parlor where nobody

hears you except the people who already

agree with you

so there's no point in talking to them

so do you really have options

technically yes and if you're really

really stupid you think that

those options

matter they don't they don't matter

if you're not on twitter you just don't

exist in our world or the other social

media

so if you think rubbing a balloon on

your hair is the same as having

electricity

then yeah going to parlor is just like

being on twitter

but it's a stupid argument

because in the real world

these are monopolies they're good ones i

love twitter

twitter is awesome but they're

monopolies for all practical purposes

again maybe not in a tactical sense but

in a practical sense there

should we update our school textbooks to

reflect the end of free speech that just

happened

don't you believe that we should not be

teaching

kids that we have freedom of speech in a

practical sense

because we don't as of today if your

kids are taught in school that they have

freedom of speech

that's not true they only have freedom

until some big company tells them they

don't

and then they don't and by the way do

you think that the social media

companies would have done what they did

without pressure from the government no

way

this was the government suppressing your

free speech

you tell me that those social media

companies could all make their own

private independent decisions

yes they can do you think they did not a

chance

not a chance the government

or members of it pressure the social

media companies and then the social

media companies cave and do what the

government wants

the government being democrats so when

you argument

you argue with me that the government is

not the one who is suppressing your

freedom of speech

it's twitter you're a idiot

that's not what's happening

it's the government pressuring the

companies and the companies

being compatible with or agreeing with

the government go along with it

not one of those companies was going to

ban twitter

because they wanted to right

well maybe i mean i don't want to be a

mind reader so i suppose

anything's possible but if you're

telling me that the government is not

pressuring the democrats in this case if

you tell me they're not pressuring the

social media companies to get rid of

trump well that's just stupid because

you can see it it's

right in front of you you they're

actually doing it in public

am i wrong that the government is in

public

calling for the social media companies

to ban freedom of speech for

a member of the public this is happening

right in front of you i'm not making

anything up you're watching it

everything i've said except the internal

intent part

is something you can just observe

on the plus side trump

derangement syndrome was cured

i don't know if you've noticed that but

tds

has actually been cured and here's why

for four years trump uh haters

were sure that he was the devil and

hitler

but every time he did something it

wasn't matching

their opinion so if your opinion doesn't

match your observation

it's like he's a racist wait he did

what with prison reform

who departed he's he hates the jewish

people

he did what with the embassy wait israel

is going to name a town after him

so we've had four years of the the worst

imaginations of who trump was being

completely opposite

of observation in order to square the

circle

they had to patch it up with hoaxes so

they would put in the fine people hoax

to to prove the thing that was

observably not true

so they you know they patch it up with a

hoax and that's what your cognitive

dissonance is

so cognitive dissonance which is trump

derangement syndrome

is when your observation and your belief

don't match

so you have to you have to connect them

with a hoax

or an illusion or a hallucination so

that's what it is

now what happens if you get to this last

part

last week of trump and finally

finally for the first time

that's my dog sleep barking if you hear

that hey stickers

i have to wake up my dog she's ruining

my whole periscope

okay so what happens when you finally

get a situation

where somebody who thinks trump is

dangerous can observe

how he acted about this capital protest

stuff and they could say

[Music]

[Laughter]

finally finally my opinion

and my observation

oh they finally fit

so good so good now

because they're also idiots they believe

that this one observation

cancels out all four years of his

accomplishments

so the belief from the the tds

recoverers because they are recovering

it's the first time their observation

matches their belief now they're

revising the last four years

to say well nailed it

nailed it yeah maybe trump

did accomplish more than any president

in the history of

presidents i think that's true for the

economy and for world peace and

for trade negotiations and prison reform

and all kinds of stuff but

well he sure screwed up that last week

that's for sure

so i think in a weird weird unexpected

way

and i mean this literally i think trump

derangement syndrome was

kind of cured accidentally now they

still have crazy thoughts about the past

but as long as it's cured at the moment

it will probably be cured going forward

there's a big story on social media

that is so delicious i was worried that

things would not be interesting after

trump left

but maybe we're just in a world of

things are more interesting

so apparently the lights went off in the

vatican and when i say apparently

i mean i don't believe anything i don't

know if the lights

really did go out in the vatican it's

being reported it's on social media but

i don't necessarily believe it happened

but let's say it did

it's being widely reported this has

caused

all manner of conspiracy theories and

they're all good ones

so the popular one seems based on one

obscure publication with zero

credibility

and it makes a claim that i'm telling

you now is not true all right

i think i can stay on social media if i

tell you in advance

that i'm talking about a claim and it's

not true

which is that the pope has been arrested

and charged with 80 counts of

pedophilia now not a chance in the world

that's true

not a chance in the world other people

are saying that

it's uh related to the other conspiracy

theory that italy

had something to do with our election

data

and you know something went through

italy and then the numbers changed and

it went back and so somehow italy is

involved with rigging the election and

and this is this is the response to that

nope

no nope

lights also went out in pakistan

somebody said they went out around the

eiffel tower i don't know if any of

those are true

certainly more likely coincidence now

some people are saying hey

maybe it's that solar winds hack and

some

some country is just testing their

ability to turn off the electricity in

different countries

i doubt you would test it doesn't seem

like testing it would be smart

uh because you should test it against

your actual enemy not

the vatican so that would be a weird way

to test that

because if you tested it and you could

see that it worked and people found it

out then they would be able to

harden their own systems against this so

it's not really the thing you should

test

you should just do it when you're ready

to start world war three

so i don't believe any of the conspiracy

theories i think just they had a grid

problem

is my guess and how would they get past

the

uh the guards the swiss guard

how how would any security force turn

off the lights

and get past the swiss guard without

without gunshots

none of it makes sense so don't believe

any of the vatican stories

but they're fun um i saw an interview

with uh remember that horned protester

the one who got into the capitol

he had the big viking horns and new

shirtless and stuff

well i saw an interview with him and uh

the reporter said

um you know why are you here you know

why are you protesting

and the guy with the viking horns looked

right at the reported

reporter and he said freedom

now the touching part about this story

is i don't even think he knew what the

word freedom means

but even so in his simple

uneducated way even he knew it was

important

before he even knew what the word meant

and so he was there

protesting for his freedom

and i just thought it was poignant so i

just pointed out

um all right let's see if i talk about

everything i was going to talk about

probably did

i believe it did all right poor guy

wants to be an actor yeah a lot of those

people are being rolled up

by the way uh if you ever do a public

illegal thing with the cameras rolling

you're gonna get caught i believe we

will catch a hundred percent of the

bad actors who were in the protest who

also had

no masks if they didn't have a mask

definitely getting caught let me tell

you something that antifa learned

that apparently the mega protesters did

not learn

those masks can come in handy

don't don't rule out the mask if you're

going to be going and doing something

illegal

in front of a thousand cameras

uh somebody's saying that the viking

horn guy is an actor

i think he's also an actor but he seems

to like protests

so here's a little away that many of you

don't know

there are people who just like going to

protests

and so there are people who go from you

know protest to protest it's almost like

a

vacation hobby i spoke to one you know

a few years ago i talked to somebody who

literally would say

hey there's protest happening i don't

think he even cared too much what it was

about

he was just all down for protests so he

just liked traveling and doing

being part of the protest and stuff like

that so i think there are people who

perhaps the viking horn guy just

likes the likes the ambiance

just likes the practice all right

civil disobedience means no masks well

you have a good point

if if it's really civil disobedience

where you're not

you're not doing a crime then no mask is

better yes

if you don't have a pandemic it's better

uh it's also being reported

coincidentally that the pope's

personal doctor died of coronavirus i

guess

yesterday or today so there's a lot

happening in the vatican

but i don't think uh

i don't think we have to uh worry about

it all right

that's all for now and uh i will talk to

you

tomorrow

okay youtube you will be happy to know

over on youtube that i finally got my

adapter so that i can charge my ipad

at the same time i've got my microphone

connected

so thanks to several of you who

suggested i get that adapter

um the five died of coven no no they

didn't

john brennan could be charged with

treason if there was an insurrection

you know i don't think i just don't

think the

deep state is going to get charged with

anything

why does your youtube get more time i'm

sort of training people that

periscope's going to go offline in a

month or two

a few months i guess so periscope will

not

be a product pretty soon so i'm

i'm slowly accustoming people to

maybe they should be on youtube but i

don't want to push it yet

so i just give them one more reason to

be here and they can choose for

themselves

uh oh poland is passing laws against big

tech

suppressing speech i don't know what

kind of law you can pass the problem is

any law you pass is just going to be a

problem

that's why i think we have to treat it

as a medical problem because at least

then you can have data and say

you know this hurts and this doesn't

maybe

uh bring in rumble when it goes live so

rumble doesn't have a

live option huh i don't think it does

uh and when you're dropped from youtube

then what well i'm on the

locals platform it's a subscription

platform

if i get dropped from twitter i would

probably lower my price

on locals right now it's seven dollars a

month for

content that you won't see anywhere else

i do a lot of micro lessons on

persuasion and and systems for your life

so if you like those things uh i think

the people who are paying seven dollars

a month

think they're getting wildly more value

than that

at least that's what they say um

let's see we regulate private companies

all the time

yeah but it's hard with opinion stuff

and freedom of speech and what's

appropriate not is

just too subjective

uh a bundle package would be good we're

looking into that

actually we might do some bundle

packages and locals will have

a live stream option i think at some

point it doesn't have it yet

but um if i had to guess where my fate

is

probably getting kicked off of the major

platforms and probably

only doing things on locals eventually

but i'll stay on the other platforms as

long as they'll keep me

by the way it is my intention to never

say anything

that would get me kicked off a platform

because i don't think i have to

i don't think there's any necessity to

say anything in a way that would get me

kicked off of any platform

and if i do that's on me isn't it

because if i don't intend it

well i guess it could be on somebody

else if they just decide to get rid of

me

all right uh what's a locals so

locals.com

is where a number of creators go if they

have content

that is maybe not quite appropriate for

the general public

so a lot of stuff that i do especially

the political stuff is

nuanced so in the general public

you can't say hey somebody did a good

job on this

but a bad job on this you just can't do

it

in the general public you just have to

take aside and say your guy did

everything right

the other guy or gal did everything

wrong and that's it

so if you want to see anything smart

you're gonna have to go somewhere that

the general public doesn't

doesn't exist all right

um yes patrick byrne and others have

said italy was involved

but i'm not looking to that i'm not

expecting that to

prove out could be wrong yeah i'll do

more robots read news i need to get back

to that

all right that's enough for now and i'll

talk to you tomorrow