Episode 1723 Scott Adams - Who Wins And Who Lose In The Florida Battle Between Disney And DeSantis?

don't you look good today i like that color on you you know i've noticed that you look good in almost anything you wear it's it's weird i don't know how you do it and you're funny you're smart i could not love you more all right that's probably the best thing you're going to hear from anybody today this is something i learned from the dale carnegie class that complements work even if you believe they're insincere they still work because your brain is just like a machine you put in the input gives you a certain output and you don't really have to believe the input weirdly that's why movies work you can watch you can watch a movie and feel emotions even though it's not real compliments work just like that hey that compliment isn't real feels good feels good why does it feel just like a real one because it doesn't matter if it's real your brain processes it just like it's real within you know within limits you have to be able to convince yourself that it's real ish but would you like to take this experience up a level hard to believe i know but you can all you need is a cup or a mug or a glass of tanker jealous is that a canteen jug or flask a vessel of what kind that's right any kind fill it with your favorite liquid i like coffee and join me now for the unparalleled pleasure it's called the simultaneous sip best thing that's ever happened to you today go oh i've just been welcomed to someone else's simulation what if our dreams are the real world and this is the simulation whoa whoa okay that wasn't very deep but we're going deep so uh this this disney and desantis thing is way more interesting than it should be meaning that i started out thinking it was sort of a thin story that there wasn't much to it but there's really a lot of interesting elements to it and i don't know they're fully appreciated so let's talk about that so uh just an update if you don't know disney years ago in the 60s negotiated a deal with the state of florida where they would have some autonomy in a certain uh part of the the state that they owned so it was their own property and they could put in uh their own city services you know water sewage roads stuff like that as well as other powers but that's mainly what they wanted to do was take care of the infrastructure and i guess they got tax breaks or no taxes or something like that and in return they they built the disney properties and the state would benefit from the people coming in and having a big business where there had been nothing but you know unused land before and then disney would benefit from the you know the efficiency in the tax breaks and that was a good idea until disney opened his mouth about the uh poorly labeled don't say gay law that really wasn't about that was more about not having having teachers teach little kids things about sexuality and um or even even things about gender identity stuff like that so that was the basic idea so then governor desantis um retaliated and we'll talk about whether that word really fits i don't think it does he retaliated so to speak by revoking um disney's special deal and and what and it was just because disney spoke up about the law now all right that's the setup just so everybody's up to speed here are the things that people have been saying about it one is that it's disney had an unfair deal because they weren't paying taxes unlike other corporations they weren't paying taxes and so why is that good for florida if florida is giving up some you know autonomy and they're not getting taxes it's a bad deal for florida right no no there's a reason that florida made the deal no i don't i don't own disney stock except that it's a component of an index fund good question by the way you should always ask that question if you see me mention any product or even a ceo ask it just remind me because i don't i just don't remember to do it because there are some of these companies that that i have some stock in and i do think it influences me even when i don't feel it of course it does money always does but i don't have any specific stake in disney so um here's the thing disney employs 60 000 people in florida so that's 60 000 employees who get a paycheck and then what happens with their paycheck money comes out of it that's called taxes and it goes to florida now that's 60 000 people who either wouldn't be there to work or would have had we're competing with other jobs would have been higher unemployment it would have been something different but 60 000 employees is quite a few people how about the tourists all those tourists who come into florida they're paying hotel taxes right so a hotel tax is almost like an income tax on somebody who doesn't live there it's just sort of an indirect income tax so florida actually has a way to to in a conceptual way to levy because it's a it's a destination state everybody wants to go there for vacation anyway they can essentially put an income tax on other states because if you make some money in another state and you want to spend it in florida on a vacation some of that money is going to go into the hotel tax and go into florida's pocket so how how how many millions of people go to disney every year and they're filling florida's coffers through the hotel tax and then all these people are eating and drinking and buying goods and uh there's this ripple effect the the size of the footprint of disney's you know economic benefit to florida is kind of enormous isn't it am i wrong if you're talking to actual commercial successful economist would they say if you said to an economist disney doesn't pay taxes in florida would they just laugh at you i'm pretty sure that disney creates more taxable situations which is different they create more taxable situations than anybody in florida i don't know who's the biggest employer in florida besides the government outside the government who's the biggest and maybe schools outside of government and schools is it disney no military could be military but that doesn't count well disney's one of them somebody says nasa i would think disney's the bigger one in terms of tax impact so now that's not counting the fact that disney built their own infrastructure so instead of the town paying for roads disney paid for them isn't that like a tax is it's in place of a tax which was the whole idea we won't you know you won't have lot a lot of taxes but those taxes would have paid for the roads but you're going to pay for the roads so just like attacks you just have more flexibility to put the roads where you want them and who knew better where to put them i mean disney knew where to put the roads and what kind and when they needed them and it was their priority so wouldn't you prefer disney build the roads to make it exactly what they wanted and built for the customers impact all right um so he says you're really trying hard scott you know when somebody says that like i know i know i've sort of made some inroads look for how many generic criticisms i get on this topic watch how generic there and that'll be that'll be a topic coming up all right so the first thing i would say is that the reason that florida made the deal with disney is not because disney was so clever that they put one over on florida that didn't happen i mean there's no evidence that that happened the evidence is that two sophisticated entities disney and the government of florida got together and they said all right what's good for you what's good for us how do we make a deal that's good for all of us and by the way when you decide how long a deal lasts you know if you if you decide it's sort of a forever deal that's part of your initial calculation right if it's a bad deal what happens well in in my view a deal is deal so that's a bigger factor for me than it is for some of you and i'll talk about that in a minute um so let me start with that it's easier i'm going to go to the whiteboard so would you would you agree that some of you have different opinions than i do about the disney desantis thing right starting with the fact that we have different opinions of it but why is it because of the logic or some knowledge probably not i think i think how you command on this has to do with your priorities in other words there are a lot of things in play so some people have sort of an anti-corporate power bias you know it's just sort of it's a filter they see the world in and so they say hey why should disney have a special deal maybe that's a high priority for you it wouldn't be for me but i could see why that would be for somebody else parental rights now of course this is the central the central issue right the parental rights so i would say that for many of you this is the number one thing and whatever it is whatever it is that gets to support that even if it's a little extreme even if it's breaking a deal it's just the most important thing so you might say to yourself you know i could be kind of flexible about everything everything if i if i can get this one thing i just want to have parental rights about how to raise my kid reasonable but and i don't have any pushback on that any anybody who has that opinion i'd say it's a good opinion um some people say that it's about winning you know it's more important to win other people say it's deterrence by the way uh i was debating the word retaliation and i said that if retaliation is what you're doing like just retaliation you should be impeached because we don't you don't hire people to retaliate that's not really the job but here's what i realized here's what i realized um the comments are going crazy because you want me to use the word grooming to make you that'll make you happy yes if if you believe that the issue is grooming i'm putting that under parental rights right so i i acknowledge that the issue is that people thought that their kids were getting groomed but that's all that all comes into the category of you want control of what your kids hear right i mean wouldn't you do you agree that's the catch-all for that somebody says i'm wrong where am i wrong uh issue is disney lying okay so there are other issues people say disneyland i would say that if you use the word deterrence instead of retaliation then i'll agree with you watch this watch us all agree you probably didn't think i would that we we could find a way to agree but watch this if i asked you to replace the word retaliation with the word deterrence the desantis pushed back in what you could call an unrelated area to create a deterrence for not only disney but anybody else who would get into this realm and maybe interfere with parental rights or be you know promoting grooming or whatever it is you think is happening did that work right as soon as i said deterrence you all said okay that's what i was thinking right but it was it was just retaliation that wasn't working for me as a word and so i think we were not i think we were not disagreeing on the concept i think we only disagreed on the word and so i would i would blame the journalists uh well no i blame myself allow me to take responsibility for my own opinions i blame myself for being let's say a little bit duped by the journalists calling it retaliation now keep in mind that the word retaliation was used on both sides right cnn and fox news have both used that term so it wasn't like i was biased by one side i was biased by both sides and the way the journalists chose to treat it but it's but as long as you say the the purpose of it was to set up a precedent and say look if you mess with parents or you mess with politics in a way that the people on the right don't like there will be consequences you won't like them and they'll be fairly immediate and that that would that would form a counterbalance to the fact that the left is really good at getting pressure on corporations so corporations already have pressure from the left they have had far less pressure from the right desantis is creating the first uh let's say memorable counter balance because keep in mind from a persuasion perspective it doesn't mind that he's it doesn't matter so much that he's doing it it matters that you remember it it's the remembering it that's the important part that's right you can do stuff all day long but if people don't remember you did it it will have no future effect so if you're looking for a deterrence you're looking for a future effect you got to remember it and as desantis pulled that off would you say that census has succeeded at least for the people who pay attention to politics i'm not sure everybody's paying attention to this this is probably like a 10 at tops but wouldn't you say that he succeeded totally right the people who have any kind of political memory will always go back to this example and the very next time a corporation speaks out everybody's going to say whoa you better pull that back because you saw what happened to disney you saw what desantis did to them so i would agree this works as a deterrence and i would also agree with the people who are saying that the right had not yet established a you know mutually assured destruction that would keep the keep the corporations on the sideline and if you think that that's a good thing and many of you do and that's a reasonable opinion right if you if your politics aligns with the right and you think the right has been bullied and pushed around and you see desantis as essentially you know landing a blow for your side but also creating a deterrence then i accept that as as a trade-off that makes sense but let me tell you where you and i are probably different and it's not in the logic of it and it has nothing to do with you know i don't have a different opinion about parental rights i'm pretty sure we i think probably all of you watching for the most part have a very similar opinion you know the parents have to be in charge you know as much as is practical they need to be in charge but here's where you and i differ i haven't perhaps irrational if i if i were to look at my own thinking perhaps irrational um but it's there i keeping a deal is a big deal to me it's a big deal and here's why i'll give you the rationality but maybe there's some irrational thing that's driving me for this it's the only thing that holds society together the reason the united states works relative to say some country that the government never works is that in the united states you have a reasonable expectation of people keeping their deal and if not and if not then yeah there's some consequences yeah i was always impressed that china as much as i criticized them i always was impressed that they just waited for the 99-year lease in in hong kong to run out because clearly they could have forced the issue earlier right clearly but they just they kept to the deal and what about the uk right they owned this thing for a hundred years had you know this great value and they said um deals a deal so i always appreciated that because that every time you have a big example of somebody keeping a deal even when it's really not cool for them it's just really hard for them but they kept the deal that's what keeps everything together like it's the most basic glue of society is that you keep your deal so does that apply to this special case i think a reasonable person could say scott i get what you're saying that that's important to keep your deals and that that's the glue that holds america together and really makes us special i would say because our court system will chase you if you don't keep a deal we do have that working more or less better than other countries but if you said this is a special case i would say oh you got me because i'm always willing to treat anything like a special case i'm never the person who says there's no special cases there's always a special case and would this be one if you're going to pick a special case of all the reasons you could pick a special case this special case would be if you think you're protecting your children right isn't that the ultimate special case well a deal's a deal normally normally i would not be in favor of somebody grooming my child but a deal's a deal and i don't want to go back on a deal because it's a very important principle it holds society together no you're going to break any deal if you think your child's well-being is at stake right you'd break it immediately so i think i have some irrational irrational connection to this for this topic so if you and i disagree and you want to say scott you're being irrational uh here's where i'm being irrational in the deal's a deal that really bothered me i have to say strangely enough it really bothered me that that anybody would now let me say it another way it bothered me that the government would break a deal that bothered me the most now if you say hey the deal was made when it made sense but now time has gone by and disney is doing so well that you know they don't need that special deal okay but i don't know if anybody did the analysis did did desantis do the analysis and know that they really make money on this deal does the state of florida really cabana head because they're going to be paying for the infrastructure now instead of disney do they i don't know did anybody do that math all right well here are some of the answers that i got when i ask people be specific what do you think desantis got in terms of the benefit and here are the things that people answered and i want to show you how sort of muddy people's thinking is everybody who said he created a deterrence i think is a clean thinker that's a clean answer you could disagree with it you could say i don't think it was enough of a deterrence or something like that but it's a clean specific answer that that's a benefit everybody would understand what that means and it can be explained in one word deterrence so that's like a good good answer here are the other answers so these are people who maybe are feeling something about the issue but the thinking process hasn't gelled yet people said that the benefit that desantis got was it's a principle you know he's upholding a principle he said obedience keeps disney out of politics but does it i don't i don't know will it keep anybody out of politics because remember the left is pushing people to be in politics so corporations are going to be damned as they do and damned if they don't i don't know it won't keep anybody out of politics but it might actually be a little deterrence disney loses its monopoly power i don't even know what that means something about losing their special control some people were um pointed out that disney should lose that deal anyway so it you know it doesn't matter that it's being used as a deterrence should lose it anyway um there's things like fairness and attention and blah blah blah so um i think the bottom line is that we we probably are closer to agreeing on this than that fox news asked some people about biden's accomplishments before we do this let me tell you something i wasn't sure if i was going to talk about today at least in this forum so last night i decided that i would see if i could recreate an experience that i had in my twenties and it was an experience with mushrooms and i've talked about it often and i said it was one of the most well first of all is one of the most enjoyable days of my whole life not i mean just off the charts but secondly i said that i felt it changed me permanently in a positive way and i wasn't sure if i were to do it again many years later if i would feel the same because i thought to myself what if what if the benefits of this the first experience sort of settled in and just became who i am would i then be immune in other words would the experience just try to make me what i already was and i would just sit there saying i don't think anything's happening or would i just have another profound experience i had no idea so first of all kids don't do drugs so you're going to get a cautionary tale here if you think this is going to end with a delightful delightful story of how much fun i had well it didn't go that way did not go that way here's what i think happened but i'm not positive um the specific forum was in chocolate right it was an edible and it was sort of packaged and you know professional looking thing and i thought well that's going to be safe because i knew people who had experienced exactly the same product from the same box literally and you have nobody had a especially bad experience i think one mildly bad ones but but basically so i knew this was a relatively safe kind of thing relative to things that are not safe it's not a safe let me be clear it's not safe it's just a little bit safer than it could have been you know if you just found a mushroom in the forest and started chomping on it i guess that would be the least safe and so you're contradicting yourself all the time now what would be an example of that all right um so here was my experience i had no cognitive um let's say psychedelic experience i i took the low end of the highest dose and i felt physically uncomfortable like i couldn't sit down and i didn't want to be touched you know it just i just needed to be standing and walking and a stomach ache like a digestive problem that was actually pretty bad um so he says the dose was too low uh well if the dose had been higher wouldn't have no i didn't have an empty stomach so i intentionally ate eight beforehand like right beforehand so here's the thing if you think that i had a mushroom experience i disagree because having experienced it once i can tell you that this wasn't it so i don't believe this was actually actually mushrooms i think that and i did a little googling to find out sure enough there are counterfeit there are counterfeit mushroom chocolate products now i don't know if i had one but i do know that i know what it should have felt like and it wasn't it wasn't like a small version of that there was nothing so there wasn't any psychological effect except that i was uncomfortable i was uncomfortable with my physical feeling which i guess had a mental effect but there wasn't any cognitive change it just made me unbalanced and it felt like a stimulant actually if i had to guess i would say a stimulant uh and i don't think mushrooms ever act like that are they uh no i wouldn't do that alone so you know i was i was in a safe environment blah blah blah yeah so uh did they have any memories from the old types yeah i have a very specific memory of the first time and i could tell you that was dramatic the the the experience is not um subtle so here's my only warning the the toughest thing with anything in this category is you don't know what you're getting that's the problem yeah if somebody said fentanyl and i actually that's one of my suspicions i i have a suspicion that it was something that would make you feel like you wanted to do it again yeah i'm actually wondering if the only people who would do it twice are people would never experience the real thing because if you experience the real thing i don't think you would do this again but if you hadn't you might say to yourself oh i got some basically intoxication was out i would i would describe it as intoxication and stimulation at the same time it was a bad combo somebody says the dose was too low well that that's the problem is you don't know what the dose should be i mean if you follow the directions it was on the high end but i i did expect i didn't expect it to be like some some effect there really wasn't any um anyway um fox news asked about biden's accomplishments and so if i act a little uh loopy today i've got like two hours of sleep so i'm probably gonna go to sleep as soon as this is done um people ask about biden's accomplishments and it's funny because if you see the professional democrats answer the question what is biden done usually they go to infrastructure oh he got the infrastructure bill passed but the the public at large doesn't even know what that is so biden's biggest accomplishment is something that literally 95 of his base doesn't know about it's just he passed the budget it just sounds like he passed a budget like it literally sounds like the most nothing that anything could sound like hey he passed a budget for infrastructure okay don't they all do that doesn't every government pass a budget for infrastructure no this is like extra that's it it's a little extra big on the budget for the infrastructure which is basically your normal job that's it and even people don't know that so people say stuff like uh well you know easily we brought back the uh calm sober leadership and what'd that get you how's that calm sober leadership working out um and but the funniest thing is there's i saw fox news mocking a washington post uh editorial in which the writer was saying they couldn't understand why biden uh isn't being more popular and successful and i'm thinking i have a few ideas i can throw into the mix i don't feel like it's that complicated at all honestly all right this old johnny depp story with uh so he's suing a 50 million lawsuit against amber heard his ex because she wrote some article that claimed he was an abuser and now he's suing and has seems to have proven with audio tapes anyway that she was the abuser so not only was she the abuser but um but she accused him of being the abuser and ruined his life basically in his career and here's the thing that i love about this there are a lot of people learning that amber heard exists and that she has a certain set of personality traits and i believe that there are people well let me ask you how many people are familiar with the the johnny depp amber heard story and you said to yourself oh my god i know amber heard might be a male amber herd or a female amber heard you know so gender doesn't matter but is there anybody who look at the comments so many of you have met her or one like her and here's the thing that you probably thought it can't be two of those right how many of you had that experience and just said to yourself there's no way there are two of these like i don't know what i experienced here but i can tell you one thing there can't be two of these there are a lot of them if you look at the comments it's just filled with people saying yes my ex my blah blah blah now it's men and women right so it's not a gender thing it's it's a personality thing this is if you look at the specific things that amber heard is accused of and since i'm not a doctor i cannot give you a diagnosis i will simply make an observation if you were to make a list of all the things that describe a vulnerable narcissist and i think there are some other things like some personality disorders that also overlap but if you just made a list of all the things they do amber heard checks off all the lists and one of the weirdest ones is that projection thing where they blame you even in public in this case of doing the crime that only they were doing that's the weirdest part believing you of a crime that only they are doing like that one you don't think could happen with more than one person but it does so here's the thing you need to know amber heard is genetically a human being you know if you checked your dna it would be human but if you treat her like a human and assume that she will act like a human she will destroy you one of the things that johnny depp said that just really blew my mind was um he said that something like he thought that she'd been put there to take take everything from him like like she was just an evil force who wasn't being like selfishly evil but rather just evil it didn't it was like she didn't have anything to gain it was just evil and so i think that's what he was responding to is like i don't even see what was in it for like it just looked evil and if you've had experience with one person like this in your life and so many if you have i can see in the comments just know that you're that wasn't one now do you know what the solution is that the experts say if you run into one of these one of these people i'm just going to say one of these people and again i'm not going to label it as vulnerable narcissism as if i could diagnose it because you need a doctor to diagnose i'm just going to say that is there's a very clear checklist of behaviors and that she hits them all right down the list boop and that's all i can say if you if you meet somebody who fits the checklist and what would the checklist be it would be like the emotional outburst the here's here's the most incredible part is that they'll minimize their awfulness like it's no big deal when you hear her on the audio tapes like she was throwing things and basically physically abusing him he was literally hiding and she treated it like he was a huge and it was no big deal and he should man up that's like you almost can't even believe it it's like unbelievable but that's on the checklist right that you know that you'd expect that one the uh you know the having affairs the um the projection it's just all there so some this seemed like a small story but i think it's a big story here's the thing you need to learn the experts give you one recommendation if you accidentally get into a relationship with such a person do you know through do you know what that one piece of advice is and it's all the same no expert there's nobody who disagrees wrong right because they if you imagine that they're like people they are humans but if you if you imagine they act like a person then you'll just be destroyed because they're not there to act like a person they're there to destroy you and it once you get destroyed they'll move to the next person and destroy them they don't stop destroying they just keep destroying so just run and so uh i think johnny depp has done a national service of extraordinary value if if we come to see it this way if we can see what he's telling us he's teaching us to run he's telling us what to look for and he's saying run if you see it i mean that's how i interpret the story now of course he's probably has you know a gigantic personal stake in this he's trying to you know suing for 50 million dollars doesn't make any sense because i don't think she has 50 million dollars um but i feel like he's he's it feels more like he's doing it for us doesn't it i'm not even sure i'm not even sure that johnny depp thinks he'll get anything personally out of this except the satisfaction of you know the truth i guess all right um speaking of the truth uh so truth social now is on the rumble cloud i guess and people are being brought on on greater numbers so some of the technical problems seem to be perhaps resolved but i saw i'm seeing some activism now to ask the apple store the app store to drop the app which basically puts you in a business you know i mean you could still have the platform but if you don't have the apple app you're you're not going to thrive so how do you succeed when apple can just say okay you're gone and what would it take it wouldn't take anything all they'd have to do is say um looks like you got a bunch of right-wing extremists on there uh you're done right and won't there be a lot of right-wing extremists on there i i would think you know probably some so it seems to me that apple has every ability to just delete them whenever they want so how exactly do you succeed that way i mean i guess you don't know until you have the fight and so that's that's the risk of an entrepreneur is you got to take that fight but that's a pretty big risk now here's my um here's my take on trump running for 2024.

number one i think he could win and probably would be the um yeah i think he could win so and i think that if he gets in he'd probably win but here's the problem given that january 6 was such a black eye to the republicans and a trump administration would be looking to staff up with republicans how can he possibly staff up like how could a trump 2024 victory how can he attract a talent pool when he's suffering under that january 6 brainwashing thing that was really effective you know half of the country thinks that he's a traitor and even if he wins because you know he gets enough votes from his own people the um i i feel like people would be afraid to associate because it would feel like oh another one joins the traitors party or something i mean it was bad enough when he was only being called a racist which by the way stopped happening have you noticed that as soon as they had this new thing trump stopped being a racist it just hasn't come up it doesn't matter anymore i guess you know as if it were ever true in any in any meaningful way um he needs to make a point of destroying the fbi well i i think that this is the the kill shot uh you have to ask yourself how he would staff up and to me i don't know the answer to it do you can can you think of how he could accomplish that or do you think people would just say oh it's a good job i'll take it because that didn't happen the first term the first term there were a lot of people who didn't want you know a job in that administration it feels like it would be twice as hard in the second term because even if even if there were a lot of people who agreed with trump so they were willing to work with him even though same people don't agree with him about january 6 in most cases well you're always going to get somebody to apply i'm not i'm not saying that there wouldn't be any applicants i'm saying that you're not going to get the the top cream of the crop that's a problem isn't it now what about desantis descent is good right because desantis is actually developing a um almost bulletproof really it is bulletproof i think desantis is as the best bulletproof set of you know conservative policies and actions that i've seen and it looks pretty solid so um as much as i like a lot of what trump has done and could do you'd have to ask yourself if desantis would be more of a trump than trump it's a fair question so um by the way does anybody uh disagree with me about the staffing thing no i get that he'll staff up so he could staff up somehow i've got a little disagreement there a lot of disagreement yeah i mean we don't really know it's just one of those factors disagree no okay all right ladies and gentlemen uh normally when it's a faster news day or there's more news i would stay on here longer but oh we've got 45 minutes that's pretty good and um you prefer schellenberger you know maybe schellenberger will be president someday he's got to make it uh as governor first of california and by the way i haven't heard anybody who's looked at his um his platform this is michael shellenberger running as an independent for governor of california uh and what's different is he's bringing very specific specific plans he's written books about it researched it so he's the most qualified in terms of knowing how to fix these specific problems and i'd love to see if that model ever catches on like if he wins i think think of the precedent imagine the president if michael schellenberger wins first president precedent is that you know an independent can win i mean jesse ventura did but that was i think that was a special case so it's unusual i mean they can they could do it but it's unusual uh so it'd make that more likely that might be good but it would also make the idea of uh capable leadership based on knowing how to get things done and you know really researching and stuff it might make that a thing what if that becomes a thing wouldn't that be good yeah i i want to just i saw a comment on locals i'm pretty sure that i did not have a bad mushroom trip what i had was something that probably wasn't mushrooms that's what i think happened so if you're thinking that i had a bad trip i don't think i did i just had a bad experience with something that probably wasn't what i thought it was all right um a rasmussen poll about uh really or you're out you you think there should be one it was a deliriant i don't know what that means exactly all right that's all for now and i'll head decaf they're decaf mushrooms all right uh we talked about elon's tweet about bill gates yesterday all right that's it for now i'll talk to you tomorrow

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it's called the simultaneous sip

best thing that's ever happened to you

today go

oh i've just been welcomed to someone

else's simulation

what if our dreams are the real world

and this is the simulation whoa

whoa okay that wasn't very deep

but we're going deep

so

uh this this disney and desantis thing

is way more interesting

than it should be

meaning that i started out thinking it

was sort of a thin story that there

wasn't much to it

but there's really a lot of interesting

elements to it

and i don't know they're fully

appreciated so let's talk about that

so uh just an update if you don't know

disney years ago in the 60s

negotiated a deal with the state of

florida where they would have some

autonomy

in a certain uh part of the the state

that they owned so it was their own

property and they could put in uh

their own

city services you know water sewage

roads

stuff like that

as well as other powers but that's

mainly what they wanted to do was take

care of the infrastructure and

i guess they got tax breaks or no taxes

or something like that and in return

they they built

the disney properties

and the state would benefit from the

people coming in and having a big

business where there had been nothing

but

you know unused land before

and then disney would benefit from the

you know the efficiency in the tax

breaks

and that was a good idea until disney

opened his mouth about the uh

poorly labeled don't say gay law that

really wasn't about that was more about

not having

having teachers

teach little kids

things about sexuality

and um or even even things about gender

identity stuff like that so that was the

basic idea

so then

governor desantis um retaliated and

we'll talk about whether that word

really fits i don't think it does

he retaliated so to speak

by revoking um

disney's

special deal

and

and what and it was just because disney

spoke up about the law

now

all right that's the setup just so

everybody's up to speed

here are the things that people have

been saying about it

one is that

it's disney had an unfair deal

because they weren't paying taxes

unlike other corporations they weren't

paying taxes

and so why is that good for florida

if florida is giving up some you know

autonomy

and they're not getting taxes

it's a bad deal for florida right

no

no there's a reason that florida made

the deal

no i don't i don't own disney stock

except that it's a component of an index

fund good question

by the way you should always ask that

question if you see me mention any

product

or even a ceo

ask it just remind me because i don't i

just don't remember to do it because

there are some of these companies that

that i have some stock in and i do think

it influences me even when i don't feel

it of course it does money always does

but i don't have any specific

stake in disney

so

um

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here's the thing

disney employs 60 000 people in florida

so that's 60 000 employees who get a

paycheck

and then what happens with their

paycheck

money comes out of it that's called

taxes and it goes to florida

now that's 60 000 people who

either wouldn't be there to work or

would have had

we're competing with other jobs would

have been higher unemployment

it would have been something different

but 60 000 employees is quite a few

people

how about the tourists

all those tourists who come into florida

they're paying hotel taxes

right so a hotel tax is almost like an

income tax on somebody who doesn't live

there

it's just sort of an indirect

income tax so florida actually has a way

to to

in a conceptual way

to levy because it's a it's a

destination state

everybody wants to go there

for vacation anyway

they can essentially put an income tax

on other states

because if you make some money in

another state and you want to spend it

in florida on a vacation

some of that money is going to go into

the hotel tax and go into florida's

pocket

so how how how many millions of people

go to disney every year

and they're filling florida's coffers

through the hotel tax

and then all these people are eating and

drinking and buying goods and

uh there's this ripple effect

the the size of

the footprint of disney's you know

economic benefit to florida

is kind of enormous isn't it am i wrong

if you're talking to actual commercial

successful economist

would they say if you said to an

economist disney doesn't pay taxes in

florida

would they just laugh at you

i'm pretty sure that disney

creates more taxable situations

which is different

they create more taxable situations than

anybody

in florida i don't know who's the

biggest employer in florida

besides the government outside the

government who's the biggest

and maybe schools outside of government

and schools

is it disney

no military could be military but that

doesn't count

well disney's one of them

somebody says nasa

i would think disney's the bigger one in

terms of tax impact

so

now that's not counting the fact that

disney built their own infrastructure

so instead of the

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town paying for roads disney paid for

them isn't that like a tax

is it's in place of a tax which was the

whole idea

we won't you know you won't have lot a

lot of taxes

but

those taxes would have paid for the

roads but you're going to pay for the

roads

so just like attacks

you just have more flexibility to put

the roads where you want them

and who knew better where to put them

i mean disney knew where to put the

roads and what kind and when they needed

them and it was their priority so

wouldn't you prefer disney build the

roads

to make it exactly what they wanted and

built for the customers impact

all right

um

so he says you're really trying hard

scott you know when somebody says that

like i know i know i've

sort of made some inroads

look for how many generic

criticisms i get on this topic

watch how generic there

and that'll be that'll be a topic coming

up

all right so

the first thing i would say is that the

reason that florida made the deal with

disney is not because disney was so

clever

that they put one over on

florida

that didn't happen

i mean there's no evidence that that

happened

the evidence is that

two sophisticated entities

disney

and the government of florida

got together and they said all right

what's good for you what's good for us

how do we make a deal that's good for

all of us

and by the way when you decide how long

a deal lasts

you know if you if you decide it's sort

of a forever deal

that's part of your initial calculation

right if it's a bad deal

what happens well in in my view a deal

is deal so that's a bigger factor for me

than it is for some of you and i'll talk

about that in a minute

um so let me start with that it's easier

i'm going to go to the whiteboard so

would you would you agree that some of

you have different opinions than i do

about the disney desantis thing right

starting with the fact that we have

different opinions of it

but why

is it because of the logic

or some knowledge

probably not

i think i think how you command on this

has to do with

your priorities

in other words

there are a lot of things in play

so some people have sort of an

anti-corporate power

bias

you know it's just sort of it's a filter

they see the world in and so they say

hey why should disney have a special

deal

maybe that's a high priority for you

it wouldn't be for me

but i could see why that would be for

somebody else

parental rights now of course this is

the central

the central issue right the parental

rights

so i would say that for many of you

this is the number one thing

and whatever it is whatever it is that

gets to support that

even if it's a little extreme even if

it's breaking a deal

it's just the most important thing

so you might say to yourself you know

i could be kind of flexible about

everything everything

if i if i can get this one thing

i just want to have parental rights

about how to raise my kid

reasonable

but and i don't have any pushback on

that any anybody who has that opinion

i'd say

it's a good opinion

um some people say that it's about

winning you know it's more important to

win other people say it's deterrence by

the way

uh i was debating

the word retaliation

and i said that if retaliation is what

you're doing

like

just retaliation

you should be impeached

because we don't you don't hire people

to retaliate

that's not really the job

but here's what i realized

here's what i realized

um

the comments are going crazy because you

want me to use the word grooming

to make you that'll make you happy yes

if if you believe that the issue is

grooming i'm putting that under parental

rights

right

so i i acknowledge

that the issue is that

people thought that their kids were

getting groomed

but that's all that all comes into the

category of you want control of what

your kids hear right i mean

wouldn't you do you agree that's the

catch-all for that

somebody says i'm wrong where am i wrong

uh issue is disney lying

okay

so there are other issues people say

disneyland i would say that if you use

the word deterrence

instead of retaliation then i'll agree

with you

watch this

watch us all agree

you probably didn't think i would that

we we could find a way to agree but

watch this

if i asked you to replace the word

retaliation

with the word deterrence

the desantis

pushed back in what you could call an

unrelated area

to create a deterrence

for not only disney but anybody else who

would get into this realm

and maybe interfere with parental rights

or be

you know promoting grooming or whatever

it is you think is happening

did that work right

as soon as i said deterrence you all

said okay that's what i was thinking

right

but it was it was just retaliation that

wasn't working for me as a word

and so i think we were not i think we

were not disagreeing

on the concept

i think we only disagreed on the word

and so i would i would blame the

journalists

uh well no i blame myself

allow me to take responsibility for my

own opinions i blame myself

for being let's say a little bit duped

by the journalists calling it

retaliation now keep in mind that the

word retaliation was used on both sides

right cnn and fox news

have both used that term

so it wasn't like i was biased by one

side

i was biased by both sides

and the way the journalists chose to

treat it

but it's but as long as you say the the

purpose of it was to

set up a precedent

and say look if you mess with parents

or you mess with politics in a way that

the people on the right don't like

there will be consequences

you won't like them and they'll be

fairly immediate

and that that would that would form a

counterbalance

to the fact that the left is really good

at

getting pressure on corporations

so corporations already have pressure

from the left

they have had far less pressure from the

right

desantis is creating the first

uh let's say memorable counter balance

because keep in mind from a persuasion

perspective it doesn't mind that he's it

doesn't matter so much that he's doing

it

it matters that you remember it

it's the remembering it that's the

important part

that's right you can do stuff all day

long but if people don't remember you

did it it will have no future effect

so if you're looking for a deterrence

you're looking for a future effect

you got to remember it

and as

desantis pulled that off

would you say that census has succeeded

at least for the people who pay

attention to politics i'm not sure

everybody's paying attention to this

this is probably like a 10 at tops

but wouldn't you say that he succeeded

totally right the people who have any

kind of political memory

will always go back to this example

and the very next time a corporation

speaks out everybody's going to say whoa

you better pull that back

because you saw what happened to disney

you saw what desantis did to them

so

i would agree this works as a deterrence

and i would also agree with the people

who are saying that

the right had not yet established a you

know mutually assured destruction that

would keep the

keep the corporations on the sideline

and if you think that that's a good

thing

and many of you do and that's a

reasonable opinion right

if you if your politics aligns with the

right

and you think the right has been bullied

and pushed around

and you see desantis as

essentially

you know landing a blow for your side

but also creating a deterrence

then i accept that as

as a trade-off that makes sense

but let me tell you where you and i are

probably different

and it's not in the logic of it and it

has nothing to do with

you know i don't have a different

opinion about parental rights

i'm pretty sure we i think probably all

of you watching for the most part

have a very similar opinion you know the

parents have to be in charge

you know as much as is practical they

need to be in charge

but here's where you and i differ

i haven't

perhaps irrational

if i if i were to look at my own

thinking

perhaps irrational

um but it's there

i keeping a deal is a big deal to me

it's a big deal and here's why

i'll give you the rationality but maybe

there's some irrational thing that's

driving me for this

it's the only thing that holds society

together

the reason the united states works

relative to say some country that the

government never works

is that in the united states you have a

reasonable expectation

of people keeping their deal

and if not

and if not

then yeah there's some consequences

yeah i was always impressed that china

as much as i criticized them i always

was impressed that they just waited for

the 99-year lease in in hong kong to run

out

because clearly they could have forced

the issue earlier right clearly but

they just

they kept to the deal

and what about the uk

right they owned this thing for a

hundred years

had you know this great value

and they said

um deals a deal

so

i always appreciated that because that

every time you have a big example of

somebody keeping a deal even when it's

really not cool for them it's just

really hard for them but they kept the

deal

that's what keeps everything together

like it's the most

basic glue of society

is that you keep your deal

so

does that apply to this special case

i think a reasonable person could say

scott i get what you're saying that

that's important to keep your deals and

that that's the glue that holds america

together and really makes us special

i would say because our court system

will chase you if you don't keep a deal

we do have that working

more or less better than other countries

but if you said this is a special case

i would say oh you got me

because i'm always willing to treat

anything like a special case i'm never

the person who says there's no special

cases

there's always a special case and would

this be one

if you're going to pick a special case

of all the reasons you could pick a

special case

this special case would be if you think

you're protecting your children

right isn't that the ultimate special

case

well a deal's a deal

normally normally i would not be in

favor of somebody grooming my child

but a deal's a deal and i don't want to

go back on a deal

because it's a very important principle

it holds society together

no

you're going to break any deal

if you think your child's well-being is

at stake right

you'd break it immediately

so

i think i have some irrational

irrational connection to this

for this topic

so if you and i disagree and you want to

say scott you're being irrational

uh here's where i'm being irrational in

the deal's a deal that really bothered

me

i have to say

strangely enough it really bothered me

that that anybody would

now let me say it another way

it bothered me that the government would

break a deal

that bothered me the most

now

if you say hey the deal was made when it

made sense but now time has gone by

and disney is doing so well that you

know they don't need that special deal

okay

but i don't know if anybody did the

analysis

did did desantis do the analysis and

know that they really make money on this

deal

does the state of florida really cabana

head

because they're going to be paying for

the infrastructure now instead of disney

do they i don't know did anybody do that

math

all right well here are some of the

answers that i got when i ask people be

specific

what do you think desantis got in terms

of the benefit

and here are the things that people

answered and i want to show you how

sort of muddy people's thinking is

everybody who said he created a

deterrence

i think is a clean thinker

that's a clean answer you could disagree

with it you could say i don't think it

was enough of a deterrence or something

like that but it's a clean

specific answer

that that's a benefit

everybody would understand what that

means

and it can be explained in one word

deterrence so that's like a good good

answer

here are the other answers

so these are people who maybe

are feeling something about the issue

but the thinking process hasn't

gelled yet

people said that the benefit that

desantis got was it's a principle you

know he's upholding a principle he said

obedience

keeps disney out of politics

but does it

i don't i don't know will it keep

anybody out of politics because remember

the left is pushing people to be in

politics

so

corporations are going to be damned as

they do and damned if they don't

i don't know it won't keep anybody out

of politics but it might actually be a

little deterrence

disney loses its monopoly power i don't

even know what that means something

about losing their special control some

people were

um

pointed out that disney should lose that

deal anyway

so it you know it doesn't matter that

it's being used as a deterrence

should lose it anyway

um there's things like fairness and

attention and blah blah blah so

um i think the bottom line is that we we

probably are closer to agreeing on this

than that

fox news asked some people about biden's

accomplishments

before we do this

let me tell you something i wasn't sure

if i was going to talk about today at

least in this forum

so last night

i decided that i would see if i could

recreate an experience

that i had in my twenties

and it was an experience with mushrooms

and

i've talked about it often and i said it

was one of the most well first of all is

one of the most enjoyable days of my

whole life not i mean just off the

charts

but secondly i said that i felt it

changed me permanently

in a positive way

and i wasn't sure if i were to do it

again many years later

if i would feel the same

because i thought to myself what if what

if the benefits of this the first

experience

sort of settled in and just became who i

am

would i then be immune

in other words

would the experience just try to make me

what i already was and i would just sit

there saying i don't think anything's

happening

or

would i just have another profound

experience i had no idea

so

first of all kids

don't do drugs

so you're going to get a cautionary tale

here

if you think this is going to end

with a delightful delightful story of

how much fun i had

well it didn't go that way

did not go that way

here's what i think happened

but i'm not positive

um

the specific forum was in chocolate

right it was an edible

and it was sort of packaged and you know

professional looking thing and i thought

well that's going to be safe

because i knew people who had

experienced exactly the same product

from the same box literally

and

you have nobody had a especially bad

experience i think one mildly bad ones

but but basically so i knew this was a

relatively safe kind of thing relative

to things that are not safe it's not a

safe

let me be clear it's not safe

it's just

a little bit safer than it could have

been you know if you just found a

mushroom in the forest and started

chomping on it i guess that would be the

least safe

and so

you're contradicting yourself all the

time now what would be an example of

that

all right um

so here was my experience

i had no cognitive

um let's say

psychedelic experience

i

i took

the low end of the highest dose

and i felt physically uncomfortable

like i couldn't sit down

and i didn't want to be touched

you know it just i just needed to be

standing and walking

and

a stomach ache

like a digestive problem that was

actually pretty bad

um

so he says the dose was too low

uh

well if the dose had been higher

wouldn't have

no i didn't have an empty stomach

so i intentionally ate eight beforehand

like right beforehand

so here's the thing

if you think that i had a mushroom

experience i disagree

because having experienced it once

i can tell you that

this wasn't it

so i don't believe this was actually

actually mushrooms

i think that and i did a little googling

to find out sure enough

there are counterfeit

there are counterfeit mushroom chocolate

products now i don't know if i had one

but i do know that i know what it should

have felt like

and it wasn't

it wasn't like a small version of that

there was nothing

so there wasn't any psychological effect

except that i was uncomfortable i was

uncomfortable with my physical feeling

which i guess had a mental effect but

there wasn't any cognitive change it

just made me

unbalanced

and it felt like a stimulant actually

if i had to guess

i would say a stimulant

uh and i don't think mushrooms ever act

like that are they

uh no i wouldn't do that alone

so you know i was i was in a safe

environment blah blah blah

yeah so

uh did they have any memories from the

old types yeah i have a very specific

memory of the first time and i could

tell you that was dramatic

the the the experience

is not um subtle

so here's my only warning

the the toughest thing with

anything in this category is you don't

know what you're getting

that's the problem

yeah if somebody said fentanyl and i

actually that's one of my suspicions

i i have a suspicion

that it was

something that would make you feel like

you wanted to do it again yeah i'm

actually wondering

if the only people who would do it twice

are people would never experience the

real thing

because if you experience the real thing

i don't think you would do this again

but if you hadn't you might say to

yourself oh i got

some basically intoxication was out i

would i would describe it as

intoxication

and stimulation at the same time it was

a bad combo

somebody says the dose was too low

well

that that's the problem is you don't

know what the dose should be i mean if

you follow the directions

it was on the high end

but i i did expect i didn't expect it to

be like some

some effect there really wasn't any um

anyway

um fox news asked about biden's

accomplishments

and so if i act a little uh loopy today

i've got like two hours of sleep

so i'm probably gonna go to sleep as

soon as this is done

um people ask about biden's

accomplishments and it's funny because

if you see the professional

democrats answer the question what is

biden done

usually they go to infrastructure oh he

got the infrastructure bill passed

but the

the public at large doesn't even know

what that is

so biden's biggest accomplishment is

something that literally

95 of his base

doesn't know about it's just he passed

the budget it just sounds like he passed

a budget

like it literally sounds like the most

nothing that anything could sound like

hey

he passed a budget for infrastructure

okay

don't they all do that

doesn't every government

pass a budget for infrastructure

no this is like extra

that's it it's a little extra big on the

budget for the infrastructure which is

basically your normal job that's it

and even people don't know that

so

people say stuff like uh well

you know easily we brought back the uh

calm sober leadership

and

what'd that get you

how's that calm sober leadership

working out

um and but the funniest thing is there's

i saw fox news mocking a washington post

uh editorial in which the writer was

saying they couldn't understand

why biden uh

isn't being more popular and successful

and i'm thinking

i have a few ideas i can throw into the

mix

i don't feel like it's that complicated

at all

honestly all right

this old johnny depp story with uh

so he's suing a 50 million lawsuit

against amber heard his ex

because she wrote some article that

claimed he was an

abuser and now he's suing and has seems

to have proven with audio tapes anyway

that she was the abuser

so not only was she the abuser

but um

but she accused him of being the abuser

and ruined his life basically in his

career

and here's the thing that i love about

this

there are a lot of people learning

that amber heard exists

and that she has a certain set of

personality traits

and i believe that there are people well

let me ask you

how many people are familiar with the

the johnny depp amber heard story and

you said to yourself

oh my god i know amber heard might be a

male amber herd or a female amber heard

you know so gender doesn't matter but

is there anybody who

look at the comments

so many of you

have met her

or one like her

and here's the thing that you probably

thought

it can't be two of those

right

how many of you had that experience and

just said to yourself there's no way

there are two of these

like i don't know what i experienced

here

but i can tell you one thing

there can't be two of these

there are a lot of them if you look at

the comments it's just filled with

people saying yes my ex my blah blah

blah now it's men and women right so

it's not a gender thing

it's

it's a personality thing

this is if you look at the specific

things that amber heard is accused of

and since i'm not a doctor

i cannot give you a diagnosis

i will simply make an observation

if you were to make a list of all the

things that describe a

vulnerable narcissist and i think there

are some other things like

some personality disorders that also

overlap but if you just made a list of

all the things they do

amber heard checks off all the lists

and one of the weirdest ones is that

projection thing

where they blame you even in public in

this case of doing the crime that only

they were doing

that's the weirdest part

believing you of a crime that

only they are doing

like that one you don't think could

happen with more than one person

but it does

so

here's the thing you need to know

amber heard

is genetically a human being

you know if you checked your dna it

would be human

but if you treat her like a human

and assume that she will act like a

human

she will destroy you

one of the things that johnny depp said

that just really blew my mind was um

he said that something like he thought

that she'd been put there to

take take everything from him

like like she was just an evil force

who wasn't being like selfishly evil

but rather just evil

it didn't it was like she didn't have

anything to gain

it was just evil and so i think that's

what he was responding to is like i

don't even see what was in it for like

it just looked evil

and

if you've had experience with one person

like this in your life and so many if

you have i can see in the comments

just know that you're that wasn't one

now do you know what the solution is

that the experts say if you run into one

of these

one of these people

i'm just going to say one of these

people and again i'm not going to label

it

as vulnerable narcissism as if i could

diagnose it because you need a doctor to

diagnose

i'm just going to say that is there's a

very clear checklist of behaviors and

that she hits them all

right down the list boop

and that's all i can say if you if you

meet somebody who fits the checklist

and what would the checklist be it would

be like the emotional outburst the

here's here's the most incredible part

is that they'll minimize their awfulness

like it's no big deal

when you hear her on the audio tapes

like she was throwing things and

basically physically abusing him he was

literally hiding

and she treated it like he was a huge

and it was no big deal and he

should man up

that's like you almost can't even

believe it it's like unbelievable but

that's on the checklist

right that

you know that you'd expect that one the

uh you know the having affairs the

um the projection

it's just all there

so some this seemed like a small story

but i think it's a big story here's the

thing you need to learn

the experts give you one recommendation

if you accidentally get into a

relationship with such a person

do you know through do you know what

that one piece of advice is and it's all

the same

no expert there's nobody who disagrees

wrong right because they

if you imagine that they're like people

they are humans

but if you if you imagine they act like

a person

then you'll just be destroyed

because they're not there to act like a

person they're there to destroy you

and it once you get destroyed

they'll move to the next person and

destroy them

they don't stop destroying

they just keep destroying

so

just run

and so

uh i think johnny depp

has done a national service of

extraordinary value if

if we come to see it this way

if we can see what he's telling us

he's teaching us to run

he's telling us what to look for

and he's saying run

if you see it i mean that's how i

interpret the story now of course he's

probably has you know a gigantic

personal stake in this he's trying to

you know

suing for 50 million dollars doesn't

make any sense because i don't think she

has 50 million dollars

um

but

i feel like he's he's

it feels more like he's doing it for us

doesn't it

i'm not even sure

i'm not even sure that johnny depp

thinks he'll get anything personally out

of this

except

the satisfaction of you know the truth i

guess

all right

um

speaking of the truth

uh so truth social now is on the rumble

cloud i guess and people are being

brought on on greater numbers so some of

the technical problems seem to be

perhaps resolved

but i saw

i'm seeing some activism now

to ask the apple store the app store to

drop the app

which basically puts you in a business

you know i mean you could still have the

platform but if you don't have the apple

app

you're you're not going to thrive

so

how do you succeed when apple can just

say

okay

you're gone

and what would it take it wouldn't take

anything all they'd have to do is say um

looks like you got a bunch of right-wing

extremists on there uh you're done

right

and won't there be a lot of right-wing

extremists on there

i i would think

you know

probably some

so it seems to me that

apple has every ability to just delete

them

whenever they want so

how exactly do you succeed that way i

mean i guess you don't know until you

have the fight and so that's that's the

risk of an entrepreneur is you got to

take that fight

but that's a pretty big risk

now here's my um

here's my take on trump running for

2024.

number one i think he could win

and probably would be the um

yeah i think he could win

so

and i think that if he gets in he'd

probably win

but here's the problem

given that january 6 was such a black

eye to the republicans

and a trump administration would be

looking to staff up with republicans

how can he possibly staff up

like how could a trump 2024 victory

how can he attract a talent pool

when he's suffering under that january 6

brainwashing thing that was really

effective

you know half of the country

thinks that he's a traitor

and even if he wins because you know he

gets enough votes from his own people

the

um

i i feel like

people would be afraid to associate

because it would feel like oh another

one joins the traitors party or

something

i mean it was bad enough when he was

only being called a racist

which by the way stopped happening have

you noticed that

as soon as they had this new thing

trump stopped being a racist it just

hasn't come up

it doesn't matter anymore i guess

you know as if it were ever true in any

in any meaningful way

um

he needs to make a point of destroying

the fbi well i i think that this is the

the kill shot

uh

you have to ask yourself how he would

staff up and to me i don't know the

answer to it do you

can can you think of how he could

accomplish that

or do you think people would just say oh

it's a good job i'll take it because

that didn't happen the first term

the first term there were a lot of

people who didn't want

you know a job in that administration

it feels like it would be twice as hard

in the second term because even if even

if there were a lot of people who agreed

with trump so they were willing to work

with him

even though same people don't agree with

him about january 6 in most cases

well you're always going to get somebody

to apply i'm not i'm not saying that

there wouldn't be any applicants i'm

saying that you're not going to get the

the top cream of the crop that's a

problem isn't it

now what about desantis

descent is good

right because desantis is actually

developing a

um

almost bulletproof

really it is bulletproof i think

desantis is

as the best bulletproof

set of you know conservative policies

and actions that i've seen

and it looks pretty solid

so

um

as

much as i like a lot of what trump has

done and could do

you'd have to ask yourself

if desantis would be more of a trump

than trump

it's a fair question

so um

by the way does anybody uh disagree with

me

about the staffing thing no i get that

he'll staff up so he could staff up

somehow

i've got a little disagreement there a

lot of disagreement

yeah i mean we don't really know it's

just one of those factors

disagree no okay

all right ladies and gentlemen

uh

normally when it's a faster news day

or there's more news

i would stay on here longer

but oh we've got 45 minutes that's

pretty good

and um

you prefer schellenberger

you know maybe schellenberger will be

president someday he's got to make it uh

as governor first of california

and by the way i haven't heard anybody

who's looked at his um

his platform this is michael

shellenberger running as an independent

for governor of california

uh and what's different is he's bringing

very specific

specific plans he's written books about

it researched it so he's the most

qualified in terms of knowing how to fix

these specific problems

and i'd love to see if that model ever

catches on

like if he wins

i think think of the precedent

imagine the

president if michael schellenberger wins

first president precedent is that

you know an independent can win i mean

jesse ventura did but that was i think

that was a special case

so it's unusual i mean they can

they could do it but it's unusual

uh so it'd make that more likely that

might be good

but it would also

make the idea of uh

capable leadership based on knowing how

to get things done and you know really

researching and stuff it might make that

a thing

what if that becomes a thing wouldn't

that be good

yeah

i i want to just i saw a comment on

locals

i'm pretty sure that i did not have a

bad mushroom trip

what i had was something that probably

wasn't mushrooms

that's what i think happened so if

you're thinking that i had a bad trip i

don't think i did

i just had a bad experience with

something that probably wasn't what i

thought it was

all right

um

a rasmussen poll about uh really

or you're out you you think there should

be one

it was a deliriant

i don't know what that means exactly

all right that's all for now and i'll

head decaf

they're decaf mushrooms all right

uh we talked about elon's tweet about

bill gates yesterday

all right that's it for now i'll talk to

you tomorrow