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Episode 446 Scott Adams - Press Secretary Sanders Botched “Fine People” Hoax Question From CNN

Episode #446 Mar 11, 2019 11:10 9,167 views

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Opening General Commentary

Hey, it's a bonus Coffee with Scott Adams. I got my coffee. It's the afternoon version. You might have your early evening version. But I had to come to you for this special occasion because there's news.

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SimultaneousSip General Commentary

Let's drink to news. Grab your mug, your cup, your glass, your stein, your chalice, your thermos, and join me for this simultaneous sip. Delicious.

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MainContent Media & Fake News

Well, if you watched the press conference today, you know that Sarah Sanders totally blew a chance to lock down Trump's reelection in 2020. And I mean that literally. Probably one of the biggest mistakes I have ever seen live. Now it's a mistake in the sense that it was a missed opportunity. And her…

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Whiteboard Persuasion

Now what should she have done? Well luckily I've got a whiteboard with two sides. And on this side, here's how you convince people that this is a hoax. People are going to say, my God, I saw it with my own eyes. I heard it with my own ears. It's not a hoax. It's what he actually said on television.…

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MainContent Persuasion

Now here's the fun part. Because CNN brought this up and they were obviously looking for some programming. They were generating news. I've told you before that the news business, they stopped reporting the news and now they're more in the business of manufacturing it. That press conference you watch…

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Closing General Commentary

So I'm going to keep it short to make this more viral in case you want to pass it around. And that is all I have today, and I'll talk to you later.

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Hey, it's a bonus Coffee with Scott Adams. I got my coffee. It's the afternoon version. You might have your early evening version. But I had to come to you for this special occasion because there's news. Let's drink to news. Grab your mug, your cup, your glass, your stein, your chalice, your thermos, and join me for this simultaneous sip. Delicious.

Well, if you watched the press conference today, you know that Sarah Sanders totally blew a chance to lock down Trump's reelection in 2020. And I mean that literally. Probably one of the biggest mistakes I have ever seen live. Now it's a mistake in the sense that it was a missed opportunity. And here's what I mean.

The biggest problem for this president is the lingering accusations that he's a big old white supremacist racist. And the biggest part of that story is the Charlottesville fine people hoax. Now the hoax is the idea that CNN is trying to sell you that Trump said in public — in public, they say — that he said that the neo-Nazis at Charlottesville were fine people. That didn't happen. That never happened.

He was talking about the context of the statue topic, and he said there were fine people on both sides. And when asked to clarify, he clarified and said these guys, hell no, those guys are all bad. I condemn them totally. Not talking about them.

So CNN's Jim Acosta, and then April Ryan, followed up with a question in which they stated it as fact again in the setting up their question for the press conference, that the president had called the neo-Nazis fine people. Sarah Sanders' response was a huge mistake. She said accurately that the president had disavowed these groups, and she was very specific. He has disavowed this group, this white supremacist group. Now that part is true.

And it so misses the opportunity because it let stand the possibility that he'd really said those things. She didn't even address the question. So the question with the premise was that he'd really said those things. Her response did not attack the fact that he had never said those things. It was the worst mistake I've ever seen any politician make in public. Literally, it's the worst mistake I've ever seen in public.

Now what should she have done? Well luckily I've got a whiteboard with two sides. And on this side, here's how you convince people that this is a hoax. People are going to say, my God, I saw it with my own eyes. I heard it with my own ears. It's not a hoax. It's what he actually said on television.

And then you say to them, well compare that to the hypothesis that instead of an extraordinary, mind-blowing, incredible, shockingly bad thing, maybe it was a completely ordinary thing. And that he was just talking about the statue controversy and said there are good people on both sides, which is completely consistent with everything he's ever said about that topic.

But if you want to believe in the extraordinary version that CNN is selling as the fine people hoax, you would also necessarily have to believe all of this. Let me run you through it. You would have to believe that a sitting president who knew what the topic was going to be — so this wasn't a surprise question. He watched the news like everybody else. And when he was asked about it, obviously he'd thought about it before he answered because it was already in the news. He knew what the news was.

Do you think it's reasonable to assume that a sitting president decided to throw down with the neo-Nazis after one of them had just killed somebody? Do you think that's even a little bit credible sounding? Right, we're not done yet, but just start there. That should be enough to dissuade any reasonable person from thinking that he was talking about the neo-Nazis, because nobody would do that under any circumstance.

Secondly, do we believe that he would publicly take sides against Ivanka, Jared, and his own grandchildren with them because they're all Jewish? Ivanka has converted and his grandchildren are born into it. Do we believe that he would do that? And if he did take sides with the neo-Nazis who were chanting anti-Semitic slogans — he didn't, but here's the fantasy version — do we believe that Israel didn't notice? Israel didn't notice that according to CNN the president of the United States threw down with the neo-Nazis who were chanting in public anti-Semitic slogans? Israel never noticed. Didn't bother him. Didn't need to condemn it or anything. They were just okay with it.

In fact this president's the most pro-Israel president Israel has ever known. I guess you would also have to believe that tens of millions of Trump supporters who were not the few racists saw this, or either they didn't see it. That somehow it's reported as news and fact, and it's one of the biggest headlines. It's one of the most repeated pieces of news in the last two years. But somehow tens of millions of Trump supporters either didn't notice, didn't hear the news, or were okay with it.

Now of course the racists themselves, if they believed it really happened, they'd be okay with it. But tens of millions of Trump supporters all looked at it and said, oh this is true. He's saying good things about white supremacists and neo-Nazis and I'm fine with it. That didn't happen. It's because those Trump supporters don't see it. They don't see it. That's because it doesn't exist.

You'd have to also believe, if you believe the CNN version of events, that he said there were fine people among the Nazis, that the very next day when he was asked to clarify he said clearly no, no, I'm not talking about those guys. I condemn them totally. And nobody doubts he said that. But would this be the one time he changed his opinion on a controversial thing? Is this a president who changes his opinion? He's not really the change-your-opinion kind of president.

If he said it the first time and meant to say it in public, I'm pretty sure he would have said it a second time. But he didn't. He clarified that of course that's not what he was saying. It was the ordinary interpretation.

If you believed that he praised fine people on quote both sides, you would also have to believe that in addition to praising neo-Nazis, which didn't happen, you would have to believe that he also praised Antifa, who were his sworn enemies, who wanted him deposed from office prematurely. Do you think this president praised Antifa for anything? Do you think that he said there were fine people in the group protesting to have him removed from office? Because you would have to believe that to believe that when he said they were fine people on both sides, he was talking about Antifa and the neo-Nazis as being the two sides.

And then more generally, you would have to believe the most extraordinary version of events when right in front of you there's an ordinary interpretation. And the ordinary interpretation is both sides of the statue issue, just like he has consistently said all along.

Now here's the fun part. Because CNN brought this up and they were obviously looking for some programming. They were generating news. I've told you before that the news business, they stopped reporting the news and now they're more in the business of manufacturing it. That press conference you watched right in front of your eyes, if you saw it, and if you saw the replay, you'll know you watched CNN attempting to manufacture news where there was none. That was the type that was good for their ratings, and so they created this.

But most of you have already been weaponized on this topic and you know that this is a hoax and you know exactly what to say about it. So what's different is they managed to raise this topic at their worst possible time. Because at this point there are thousands of Trump supporters who have been exposed to the strong argument as opposed to Sarah Sanders' completely failed attempt of just saying, well that one time he disavowed these groups. That's not persuasive because it still allows the possibility that he said it in the first place, which just didn't happen. And that's the part you need to persuade against.

So it may be that they've created a monster that they didn't want to create. Had this never become another headline story, people would have just gone on believing it was true if they believed it in the first place, because there was nothing in the headlines to say, hey, give this a second thought. Hey, you didn't interpret this right. But now it's a national story. Now there are thousands of people armed with the kill shot. And this is the kill shot.

So try that with your friends. You will find that it works almost every time. They will almost certainly end up changing the topic to some other perceived evil that they think the president did once you have totally annihilated this argument.

So I'm going to keep it short to make this more viral in case you want to pass it around. And that is all I have today, and I'll talk to you later.

hey it's a bonus coffee with Scott Adams I got my coffee it's the afternoon version you might have your early uh early evening version but I had to come to you for this special occasion because there's news let's drink to news grab your mug your cup your glass your Stein your jealous your thermos and join me for this simultaneous SI delicious well if you watch the press conference today you know that um Sarah Sanders totally blew a chance to lock down uh Trump's reelection in 2020 and I mean that literally probably one of the biggest mistakes I have ever seen live now it's a mistake in the sense that it was a missed opportunity and here's what I mean the biggest problem for this President is the lingering accusations that he's a big old white supremacist uh racist and the biggest part of that story is the Charlottesville fine people hoax now the hoax is the idea that CNN is trying to sell you that Trump said in public in public they say that he said that the neo-nazis at Charlottesville were fine people people that didn't happen that never happened he was talking about the context of the uh the statue topic and he said there were fine people on both sides and when asked to clarify he clarified and said these guys hell no those guys are all bad I condemn them totally not talking about them so CNN's uh Jim aasta and then April Ryan followed up with a question in which they stated it as fact again in the setting up their question for the press conference that the president had called the neo-nazis fine people Sarah Sanders response was a huge mistake she said accurately that the president had disavowed these groups and she was very specific he has disavowed this group this white supremacist dis out now that part is true and it's so misses the opportunity because it let stand that the possibility that he'd really said those things she didn't even address the question so the question with the the premise was that he'd really said those things her response did not attack the fact that he had never said those things it was the worst mistake I've ever seen of any politician make in public literally it's the worst mistake I've ever seen in public public now what should she have done well luckily I've got a whiteboard with two sides and on this side here's how you convince people that this is a hoax people are going to say my God I saw it with my own eyes I heard it with my own ears it's not a hoax it's what he actually said on television and then you you say to them well compare that to the hypothesis that instead of an extraordinary mindblowing incredible shockingly bad thing maybe it was a completely ordinary thing and that he was just talking about the Statue controversy and said they're good people on both sides which is completely consistent with everything he's ever said about that topic but if you want to believe in the extraordinary uh version the CNN is selling as the fine people hoax you would also necessarily have to believe all of this let me run you through it you would have to believe that a sitting president who knew what the topic was going to be so this wasn't a surprise question he watched the news like everybody else and when he was asked about it obviously he'd thought about it before he answered because it was already in the news he knew what the news was do you think it's reasonable to assume that a sitting president president decided to throw down with the neo-nazis after one of them had just killed somebody do you think that's even a little bit credible sounding right we're not done yet but just start there that should be enough to dissuade any reasonable person from thinking that he was talking about the the neo-nazis because nobody would do that under any circumstance secondly do we believe that he would publicly take sides against aanka Jared and his own grandchildren with them because they're all Jewish aanka has converted and his Grand grandchildren are are born into it do we believe that he would do that and if he did take sides with the neo-nazis who were chanting anti-semitic slogans he didn't but here here's the fantasy version um do we believe that Israel didn't notice that Israel didn't notice that according to CNN the president of the United States threw down with the neo-nazis who were chanting in public anti-semitic slogans Israel never noticed didn't bother him didn't didn't need to condemn it or anything they they were just okay with it in fact This president's the most popular president Israel has ever cared about I guess you would also have to believe that tens of millions of Trump supporters who were not the few racists saw this or either they didn't see it that somehow it's reported as news and fact and it's one of the biggest headlines it's one of the the most repeated pieces of news in the last two years but somehow tens of millions of trump supporters either didn't notice didn't hear the news or were okay with it now of course the some racist themselves if they believed it really happened they'd be okay with it but tens of millions of trump supporters all looked at it and said oh this is this is true he's he's saying good things about white supremacists and neo-nazis and I'm fine with it that didn't happen it's because those Trump supporters don't see it they don't see it that's because it doesn't exist you'd have to also believe if you believe the CNN version of events that he said there were fine people among the Nazis that the very next day when he was asked to clarify he said clearly no no I'm not talking about those guys I condemn them totally and nobody nobody doubts he said that but would this be the one time he changed his he changed his opinion uh on a controversial thing is this a President Who changes his opinion he's not really the change your opinion kind of president if he said it the first time and meant to say it in public I'm pretty sure he would have said it a second time but he didn't he clarified that of course that's not what he was saying it was the ordinary interpretation if you believed that he praised fine people on quote both sides you would also have to believe that in addition to to praising neo-nazis which didn't happen you would have to believe that he also praised antifa who were his sworn enemies who wanted him deposed from Office prematurely do you think this President praised antifa for anything do you think that he said there were fine people in the group protesting to have him removed from office because you would have to believe that to believe that when he said they were fine people on both sides he was talking about antifa and the neo-nazis as being the two sides and then more generally you would have to believe the most extraordinary version of events when right in front of you there's an ordinary interpretation and the ordinary interpretation is both sides of the statue issue just like he is consistently said all along now here's the fun part because CNN brought this up and they were obviously looking for some programming they were they were generating news I've told you before that the news business they stopped reporting the news and now they're more in the business of manufacturing it that press conference you watched right in front of your eyes if you saw it and if you saw the the replay you'll know you watched CNN attempting to manufacture news where there was none that was the type that was good for their ratings and so they they created this but most of you have already been weaponized on this topic and you know that this is a hoax and you know exactly what to say about it so what's different is they managed to raise this topic at their worst possible time because at this point there are thousands of trump supporters who have been exposed to the strong argument as opposed to Sarah Sanders completely failed attempt of just saying well that one time he he you know he disavowed these groups that's not persuasive because it still allows the possibility that he said it in the first place which just didn't happen and that's the part you need to persuade against so it may be that they've created a monster that they didn't want to create had this never become another headline story people would have just gone on believing it was true if they believed it in the first in the first place because there was nothing in the headlines to say hey hey give this a second thought hey hey hey you didn't interpret this right but now it's a national story now there are thousands of people armed with the killshot and this is the killshot so try that with your friends you will find that it works almost every time uh they will almost certainly end up changing the topic to some other perceived evil that they think the president did once you have totally annihilated this argument so I'm going to keep it short to make this more viral in case you want to pass it around and that is all I have today and I'll talk to you later

hey it's a

bonus coffee with Scott

Adams I got my coffee it's the afternoon

version you might have your early uh

early evening

version but I had to come to you for

this special occasion because there's

news let's drink to news grab your mug

your cup your glass your Stein your

jealous your thermos and join me for

this simultaneous

SI delicious well if you watch the press

conference today you know that um Sarah

Sanders totally blew a chance to lock

down uh Trump's reelection in 2020 and I

mean that literally probably one of the

biggest mistakes I have ever seen live

now it's a mistake in the sense that it

was a missed

opportunity and here's what I mean the

biggest problem for this President is

the lingering accusations that he's a

big old white supremacist uh racist and

the biggest part of that story is the

Charlottesville fine people hoax now the

hoax is the

idea that CNN is trying to sell you that

Trump said in public in public they say

that he said that the neo-nazis at

Charlottesville were fine people people

that didn't

happen that never happened he was

talking about the context of the uh the

statue topic and he said there were fine

people on both sides and when asked to

clarify he clarified and said these guys

hell no those guys are all bad I condemn

them totally not talking about

them so CNN's uh Jim aasta and then

April Ryan followed up with a question

in which they stated it as fact again in

the setting up their question for the

press conference that the president had

called the neo-nazis fine people Sarah

Sanders response was a huge mistake she

said accurately that the president had

disavowed these groups and she was very

specific he has disavowed this group

this white supremacist dis out now that

part is

true and it's so misses the opportunity

because it let stand that the

possibility that he'd really said those

things she didn't even address the

question so the question with the the

premise was that he'd really said those

things her response did not attack the

fact that he had never said those things

it was the worst mistake I've ever seen

of any politician make in public

literally it's the worst mistake I've

ever seen in public

public now what should she have done

well luckily I've got a whiteboard with

two

sides and on this side here's how you

convince people that this is a

hoax people are going to say my God I

saw it with my own eyes I heard it with

my own ears it's not a hoax it's what he

actually said on television and then you

you say to them well compare that to the

hypothesis that instead of an

extraordinary

mindblowing incredible shockingly bad

thing maybe it was a completely ordinary

thing and that he was just talking about

the Statue controversy and said they're

good people on both sides which is

completely consistent with everything

he's ever said about that topic but if

you want to believe in the

extraordinary uh version the CNN is

selling as the fine people hoax you

would also necessarily have to believe

all of this let me run you through it

you would have to believe that a sitting

president who knew what the topic was

going to be so this wasn't a surprise

question he watched the news like

everybody else and when he was asked

about it obviously he'd thought about it

before he answered because it was

already in the news he knew what the

news

was do you think it's reasonable to

assume that a sitting president

president decided to throw down with the

neo-nazis after one of them had just

killed

somebody do you think that's even a

little bit credible sounding right we're

not done yet but just start there that

should be enough to dissuade any

reasonable person from thinking that he

was talking about the the neo-nazis

because nobody would do that under any

circumstance secondly do we believe that

he would publicly take sides against

aanka Jared and his own grandchildren

with them because they're all Jewish

aanka has converted and his Grand

grandchildren are are born into it do we

believe that he would do that and if he

did take sides with the neo-nazis who

were chanting anti-semitic slogans he

didn't but here here's the fantasy

version um do we believe that Israel

didn't notice

that Israel didn't

notice that according to CNN the

president of the United States threw

down with the neo-nazis who were

chanting in public anti-semitic slogans

Israel never noticed didn't bother him

didn't didn't need to condemn it or

anything they they were just okay with

it in fact This president's the most

popular president Israel has ever cared

about I

guess you would also have to believe

that tens of millions of Trump

supporters who were not the few

racists saw this or either they didn't

see it that somehow it's reported as

news and fact and it's one of the

biggest headlines it's one of the the

most repeated pieces of news in the last

two years but somehow tens of millions

of trump supporters either didn't notice

didn't hear the

news or were okay with

it now of course the some racist

themselves if they believed it really

happened they'd be okay with it but tens

of millions of trump supporters all

looked at it and said oh this is this is

true he's he's saying good things about

white supremacists and neo-nazis and I'm

fine with it that didn't happen it's

because those Trump supporters don't see

it they don't see it that's because it

doesn't

exist you'd have to also believe if you

believe the CNN version of events that

he said there were fine people among the

Nazis that the very next day when he was

asked to clarify he said clearly no no

I'm not talking about those guys I

condemn them totally and nobody nobody

doubts he said that but would this be

the one time he changed his he changed

his

opinion uh on a controversial thing is

this a President Who changes his opinion

he's not really the change your opinion

kind of president if he said it the

first time and meant to say it in public

I'm pretty sure he would have said it a

second time but he didn't he clarified

that of course that's not what he was

saying it was the ordinary

interpretation if you believed that he

praised fine people on quote both sides

you would also have to believe that in

addition to to praising neo-nazis which

didn't happen you would have to believe

that he also praised

antifa who were his sworn enemies who

wanted him deposed from Office

prematurely do you think this

President praised antifa for anything do

you think that he said there were fine

people in the group protesting to have

him removed from office because you

would have to believe that to believe

that when he said they were fine people

on both sides he was talking about

antifa and the neo-nazis as being the

two sides

and then more generally you would have

to believe the most extraordinary

version of events when right in front of

you there's an ordinary interpretation

and the ordinary interpretation is both

sides of the statue issue just like he

is consistently said all along

now here's the fun part because CNN

brought this up and they were obviously

looking for some programming they were

they were generating news I've told you

before that the news business they

stopped reporting the news and now

they're more in the business of

manufacturing it that press conference

you watched right in front of your eyes

if you saw it and if you saw the the

replay you'll know you watched CNN

attempting to manufacture

news where there was none that was the

type that was good for their ratings and

so they they created this but most of

you have already been weaponized on this

topic and you know that this is a hoax

and you know exactly what to say about

it so what's different is they managed

to raise this topic at their worst

possible time because at this point

there are thousands of trump supporters

who have been exposed to the strong

argument as opposed to Sarah Sanders

completely failed attempt of just saying

well that one time he he you know he

disavowed these groups that's not

persuasive because it still allows the

possibility that he said it in the first

place which just didn't happen and

that's the part you need to persuade

against so it may be that they've

created a monster that they didn't want

to create had this never become another

headline story people would have just

gone on believing it was true if they

believed it in the first in the first

place because there was nothing in the

headlines to say hey hey give this a

second thought hey hey hey you didn't

interpret this right but now it's a

national

story now there are thousands of people

armed with the

killshot and this is the killshot so try

that with your friends you will find

that it works almost every time uh they

will almost certainly end up changing

the topic to some other perceived evil

that they think the president did once

you have totally annihilated this

argument

so I'm going to keep it short to make

this more viral in case you want to pass

it around and that is all I have today

and I'll talk to you later