going to say it again. I want to see if you can go the extra distance. I don't think you can so this is sort of a challenge to your mental flexibility. Could you go all the way to at the moment because we need the workers that the illegal immigration is not a problem in the way that it normally would be? Can you go there? Who can go there with me? It's a tough place to go because if your entire political opinion has been no no no illegal immigration. Now if you could release on the fact that they're illegal for a moment and just concentrate on the fact that it's either good or bad for the economy. Is it good or is it bad for the US economy? Mostly no. Okay mostly no's. Almost all those actually.

All right well all right here's my proposition. At the moment without doing a deep dive and the deep dive could change my opinion. On the surface it looks like this is when I would have opened the doors. On the surface. But there might be more to the story. How many go on welfare? I'll bet not nearly as many are sucking up resources as are adding to it but that's what you need the economist for. You need the experts in this field.

All right let me ask you the question in a different way. Are you ready for this? Let's say hypothetically and this has not happened. Let's say the best economist that you know... Oh okay I'll give you a specific one. This is hypothetical. Suppose Thomas Sowell who is one of the most respected economists on the Republican side, suppose, and he has not said this right, this is just hypothetical, suppose he said all right I've looked into it and while I hate illegal immigration, I imagine he'd say that, I'm just speculating, he'd agree with you. I hate illegal immigration. First choice would be controlling our border. But on this narrow question of whether it helps the economy or hurts it is my opinion that it helps it at the moment. Suppose he said that. Now in this hypothetical he knows more about the economy than you do and you agree. If Thomas