other side was, well, maybe if you were nicer to the Palestinians you wouldn't be in this situation. Both crazy. There are two realities that I don't recognize at all. So let me give you an example. The pro-Israel guy argued that all over the world there are examples of locals who got displaced and should have the right of return like the Palestinians. But his point is why are you only looking at Israel like the one place where the people who got kicked out should have the right to come back when all over the world there are people who have been kicked out of all kinds of places and then nobody's saying right of return for them. So why are you saying it for Israel? Does that sound like a good argument to you? What do all of the other places have to do with this? Nothing. Nothing. It's not even on point. Well, what do you think Israel and the Palestinians should do? Well, there's this totally other situation. No, that's just another situation. To imagine that that's like a leading point or you're winning your argument if you take that out, that's insane.

Let me tell you the only model that makes any sense whatsoever. Whoever has the power to hold land holds it until somebody else has more power and then they take it away from you. That's all it is. To imagine that there's some narrative that we should all accept on either side or anything in the middle is really absurd. You can pick your narrative if you want, but it doesn't make any difference. It's just power. And now let me ask you this. Imagine you're a Palestinian. And by the way, one of the participants, what was her name? Forgot to write it down, but Konstantin later called her DEI Barbie. Apparently things didn't go well toward the end of the debate. He called her DEI Barbie after the fact. They were arguing on X, but that's pretty gutsy to do that anyway. One of the points she made is she said that there are Palestinians, I don't know if this is literally true or it just sounds good, who still have the key to the door where they used to live in Israel and now there's somebody else living there and they weren't compensated. Now what do you do about them? And it's worse. It wasn't even that Israel conquered the land and took it over. Somebody else gave them their house. So just imagine you're a Palestinian and you wake up one day. It's like, hey, the UN decided that Israel owns this land. But do they own my house? Well, no, but things are going to get really tough when they start moving in. What do you mean? Well, I mean legally you could keep your house but things might get a little tense once you're outnumbered. And next thing you know if you're a Palestinian, it looks like, and I'm saying this is how it would feel. I try to put myself in the situation and say how would I feel. Here's what it feels like. The UN gave your house to your enemies and never talked to you about it. Wait a minute. The UN gave my house to my enemy and I wasn't consulted.

Now you could go back and say yes, but before that the Jews lived there forever and then the Arabs kicked them out. And so really it's the Jews coming home. And you could argue with forever. But here's one of the things that Konstantin helpfully tried to inject because both sides wanted to talk about the past, the past grievances. Now your instinct says if you're locked in the past you'll never make progress. So Konstantin is trying to say, all right, all right, we could talk about the past but what should we do today? Like what are you going to do? What should Israel have done differently? And it turns out that neither side was willing to forget the past because they say you're not really going to understand the present without the past. Separating them doesn't make sense. But when they say the past, what they mean is their narrative of the past, which is fiction. Both the narratives are fiction. There's not a true one and a fake one. You knew that, right? In this kind of stuff there's no real one. There's always just the two narratives. And each will leave out the inconvenient things for the other ones.

So I'm just to clarify, I'm pro-Israel being a country and they're our ally and I'm glad that we're supporting them, etc. But there's no truth. Like if you think any of it has to do with truth, I think you're lost. It's power. The Israelis have the power to hold the country. They're going to build it. They're doing lots of good things. And that's the end of the story. I could have an opinion about it but it wouldn't change the fact that they have the power to hold it. That's kind of the whole story. But I don't believe in if you give the Palestinians what they're asking for everything will be good. Because anybody who's pro-Palestinian likes to do the thing where they ignore the we want to kill every Jew and take all your land, which they would say used to be their land. So you can't really negotiate if part of the negotiators want you dead and that's their final offer. So to imagine this is negotiable is just kind of crazy. Kind of crazy.

So I'm going to give Konstantin big props for holding the event. I think PBD did a similar thing with Chris Cuomo and comic Dave Smith and that certainly produced some good entertainment. And I'd like to see more of it. But I would say that there's no point in having a debate where if you're starting from different realities and that's not going to change.

So meanwhile there's some confusion over this so-called ceasefire peace plan roadmap thing that Biden says is Israel's idea but Israel says no, we just tweaked a few things. And then somebody else says, what they say, I've confused two things here. Oh, it's strange that they say it's an Israeli proposal and at the same time they say Israel needs to agree to it. So I guess the Biden administration has said, oh yeah, this is Israel's idea as soon as they agree to it. Wait, if it's their idea, didn't they start with agreeing with their own idea? Or did they have an idea they didn't agree with and they've got to be convinced to agree with their own idea? Or is it possible that Biden has been lying to us the entire time? I'm going to go with lying to us the entire time.

And I like, getting back to Konstantin's debate here, one of the guys on the pro-Israel side said that all Hamas has to do is stop fighting and losing wars and everything will be fine. I used to believe that too. I used to believe that if just the Palestinians would just stop losing wars they could negotiate with the rest of the world and get what they wanted. I don't think there's any chance of that because there's a hardcore faction that will never stop doing it. And it doesn't matter if half of them want peace if the other half doesn't. There's nothing you can do with that. No. So there it seems that there's enough people who want to destroy all of Israel that there's nothing you can do. It's just power. They will keep coming and Israel will keep beating them back as long as they can anyway.

Then it looked like one of the things that Konstantin was complaining about is that the woman who he called the DEI Barbie after the event, not during the event, but that she wouldn't answer a question. But I didn't see that exactly. I know what he was talking about but that she wouldn't answer the question of what Israel should have done or should do. And it sounded like she was just talking about the past. But she did kind of meander back to it. And here was her answer, that Israel should be more like the Unit