not true. So meaning they got it wrong.

They got it wrong. Yeah.

So here's my argument. My argument starts with there are some disciplines that people learn that make them better at determining what's true and what's not in the news. For example, if you're a plumber by training, you're probably good at predicting plumbing, but it's not really a good generalizable skill. If you're a teacher, you're probably great at figuring out what works with your kids in your class, but again it's not super generalizable to the real world.

I would dispute that. I would say many of the lessons that a teacher teaches in a classroom are absolutely generalizable to the real world. Lessons about patience, lessons about listening, lessons about empathy, lessons about curiosity and questioning. I'm keeping it just the news. So for example if your argument is that certain professions make you better able to discern what is real and what is not, it would seem to me that teachers would absolutely have maybe a better than average ability to do that.

Let me back off from that then. Point taken. How about plumbers? I think you'd have to go by the individual plumber. But I agree with you that the skills that one learns in plumbing aren't probably that relevant to media criticism. So I'll give you teachers because you gave some good examples. But let me tell you what I think would be at the top of the stack. An economist would be in much better shape to know if the news about the economy is fake. Yeah. I've got a degree in economics so when I see economic news I'm in pretty good shape to know when it's fake. I've got an MBA which teaches you to know about individual businesses. So if I see an individual business doing something that doesn't look right I can usually.

The degree you have is an MBA in business or do you have a separate MBA?

MBA means Master of Business Administration. Yeah. That's what the B stands for. Master of Business. Right. Right. Right.

I'm also a, I guess I'll say a famous management observer because of my comic strip. So Dilbert is all about the weird things in management. Now I would argue that there's no such thing as a degree in watching management but if you do something for 35 years you end up getting better at it. So observing managers and how they work and what's typical in a big company I'm probably in the top 2% of people who could do that just from experience.

That's totally debatable.

Debatable. But you'd probably put me in the top half. I don't know. I have no idea.

Well I would agree that you have been observing management for 35 years. Yes.

Oh here's the other thing. I also walk dogs. They're annoying. That adds to every podcast. I like a dog in the background. On top of that I've worked for big companies so I've got the real life experience of how corporations work which is how Dilbert was formed. In fact Dilbert is only popular because the things I observe people say oh that's so right on. That's the whole point.

Totally agree.

So then beyond that because I talk about politics for the podcasting etc. on X I make it a habit to watch the news from both sides so I see news that's completely different on the left and right.

I'm sorry go back. You said because I'm an observer of politics I see politics from both sides. Is that what your point was?

Because I talk about it. Because it's incumbent on me to look at both sides. So I know you would agree that you have no expert, let's say, credentialing in politics the way you have in business administration.

That's true. Right.

So here's let me give you some examples. When Fauci, and my general statement is that I'm an expert at determining. I'm not an expert at knowing what's true. So when you say you're an expert at detecting are you credentialed in the same way at detecting as you are at business administration?

I'll say that I have a track record which I'll give you some examples.

Okay. But will you give me the counter examples of when you were wrong?

Yes actually I have those.

So you have been right and you have been wrong as all of us have been.

Yeah. So when you say you're an expert at detecting it seems to me that what you're saying, and correct me if I'm wrong, is you can d