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← Previous segment →ss what? It turns out that Congress can pass anything it wants as fast as it wants. Does that make you happy? What have we been doing up to this point? Are you serious? You're telling me that the Congress can do things really fast and very efficiently sometimes but not all the time. So this is the thing that we got right in terms of speed. But the only reason it went fast is because it took us years to get to this point. Like we found a way, or Congress did, to make even an efficient process, which if it had been a standalone process probably would impress you how fast it went. But no, no. Years later, it goes fast.
So now we have the Senate and the House have approved it. It's going to go to Trump's desk. So how many of you think that that means you're going to see some more Epstein files? Do you think that's what that means? Or there's always a reason to not see the Epstein files. One would be if there's an open court case such as the one Trump was just trying to open against the Democrats for their connection to Epstein. Oh, that's a nice coincidence. Just at the time that everybody agreed to see it, there's this legal action. Well, I guess we're going to have to wait till the end of that. It's going to be another five years. So good luck if you're just waiting for all that information that you know is going to come any minute. Because if there's one thing I can tell you about the Epstein files, it's the only thing I know about them for sure. There's always a reason to not show you. Always. We'll find out what the reason is this time, but not expecting it.
All right. So it's on its way to the president's desk. And if he signs it, it really doesn't mean much, does it? If he signs it, it doesn't mean it's more likely that people will see the files. Probably doesn't mean anything because again, it's going to be one of these process things.
All right. So it wasn't a normal vote. It went through all kinds of weird things you don't need to know about. But what is the strongest type of denial? If you were going to deny an accusation, what's the weakest form and the strongest form? Well, the weak form would be, "No, I didn't do that. No, no, we didn't do that." Slightly stronger than that would be, "Not only did I not do that, you're the one who did it. You're the one who did it." And then that diverts attention from you. So that's even better than just denying it. It's like you did it and it was stronger than you did it.
Well, not only did the Democrats, they would be you in this case, not only did the Democrats do it, whatever it is, but you're going to prove it. That's kind of what Trump said because if he wants the Department of Justice to look into these top Democrats, he's going after Bill Clinton and Larry Summers and Reid Hoffman. So those are the ones he's going after.
Now, I'm going to give you a little persuasion lesson on how well Trump is handling this. I know that doesn't sound possible, does it? Does it look like he's handled it well up to this point? No. No. If you're not paying attention too much, it really doesn't look like he's handled it well. It looks like he was flailing around a little bit, didn't it? But he's now settled into a groove that is such a strong groove that I feel like all the rest of the stuff was just testing. He was just saying, "How about this? Suppose I said this. What would happen if I said this?"
So his current approach is that it's a Democrat problem and he's going to put three faces on it instead of the hundreds of faces. He's going to pick three rich guys that probably even the left doesn't love because they're rich guys and he's just going to paint them over and over again.
Now, what does Trump say about talking about this? Trump says, well, it's a Democrat problem and we Republicans should stop talking about it because it just takes attention away from all of our accomplishments. And then because he doesn't want the left to talk about it, what do they do? Well, everybody on the left asks some questions about it every single time he's out. Every time. What does Trump do every time now? Every time now going forward, he's going to say it's a Democrat problem. It's Larry Summers. It's Bill Clinton. It's Reid Hoffman.
Now, I don't have an opinion about what those three people did or did not do. We're only talking about Trump's persuasion game. If he continues to do nothing but that, what are you going to think about whenever it comes up? You're going to think about three rich Democrats. That's what you'll think about. Now, that's sort of a home run if he can do that.
Now, the only way this could fail is if the Democrat press, you know, the left-leaning press, all got together and said, you know, we're going to kill ourselves on this because every time we bring it up now, he just mentions these three Democrats and says it's a Democrat problem. Now, if you're a regular consumer of news, not like us, probably none of us are ordinary people, you know, we pay a little more attention about politics, which is why you'd be watching this podcast in the first place. But think about the average person. How much do they know about Epstein? Well, he was a pedo. He was on an island. They know the basics, but they don't know any of the details because it's something that only the news nerds seem to be involved in.
So now Trump has done something that is brilliant, which is he's filled in that gap for the low-information voters. If you wanted to have something to say that would sort of capture the whole situation, it would be this: "Well, looks like a Democrat problem. I don't know why you're even talking to Republicans. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah. But it's kind of a Democrat problem. So when the Democrats work this out, why don't you get back to us?" Well, but there was that time and Trump and then Trump has the floor. You know, they've accused him and then he says, "Yeah, it's a Democrat problem. Larry Summers, Bill Clinton." And every time he repeats it, it gets stronger.
So they're going to give him, because they can't help themselves. You know, the news is the news. They're going to act the way they always act. They're going to give Trump unlimited opportunities to do the thing that he says, "Please don't do this to me. Please don't throw me in the briar patch." If you throw me in the briar patch, what am I going to do except talk about endlessly how it's these three Democrats who are the obscene people you need to know about and that maybe the Department of Justice needs to look into them. No, don't make me talk about that three times a day. No, he's sort of in a perfect situation now.
As I said when I started, he was kind of flailing in the early stages of, you know, we're going to have to figure out this Epstein thing. But when he finally went from, no, we don't want to see the files, a complete flip to, yep, let's see them all, that's when you knew he had a grasp of the situation because you can't really reverse "show them all."
Now, this would presume that we see anything. I'm not sure that that's going to happen. So there are a few things that are going to happen. One, we might see some files that tell us something new. Probably not. But at the very least, it's going to give Trump endless possibilities for blaming the Democrats and saying Epstein's just a Democrat problem until everybody believes it.
You know, I've told you that persuasion is mostly repetition. And he's going to have the biggest repetition opportunity anybody ever had and he's just going to lean into it until you're so tired of hearing him say that Epstein is a Democrat problem that you stop asking him questions about Epstein and that's fine too.
So Trump has now created a situation where he kind of wins in every direction, right? Because now he's for full transparency. So he's invulnerable on that and he's just repeating over and over the Democrat, you know, it's a Democrat thing. It's a Democrat hoax. It's just going to get stronger and stronger as he does it. So good luck with that, Democrats.
Let's see what else. There's also the visual part. You know how I often say that if you're looking at the strongest elements of persuasion, repetition is probably the top because if you repeat enough anybody will believe anything. But also visual. Now the Epstein is not a visual story per se. But if you imagine these three specific people, Hoffman, Summers and Bill Clinton, most of you can picture them. Maybe you don't know Larry Summers, but you know who Bill Clinton is. So you've got a little picture to put in your head to place on the island. That helps Trump too.
So if you start imagining the three of them, now the thing I wondered is I feel like Trump's meme archers are a little slow because you know the next thing that happens is that the Republican memers are going to start producing pictures, probably AI, that would show the three of them together maybe on the island. So it's going to turn visual very fast, you know, through memes, etc. So he's going to have repetition. He's going to have visual. He's got now control of the narrative because it's just an interesting thing to talk about. Is it a Democrat problem or not? And I think he is successfully branding this as a Democrat problem.
Do you feel that if you take Trump out of the equation, he's always a special case. Do you feel this is a Republican problem at all? It really doesn't feel like one, does it? It feels entirely like it's just that. Yeah.
Anyway, the Democrats, they decided to drop a video that looks like some kind of a psyop to me. So there are six of them. One of them's a senator, Mark Kelly, and then Jimmy Panetta, Mikie Sherrill, a woman, Adam Smith, Ruben Gallego, Mark Kelly, and Elissa Slotkin. So they do this video. Sort of came out of nowhere. Like, it's hard to know what inspired
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it unless it was just obviously the CIA. So it looks like sort of a color revolution thing that you'd get these people who are in the government, people who are credible, to do a video that says, and here's what they said, that they're asking the military to not obey any illegal orders from Trump, but they don't mention what these so-called illegal orders would be. Why are they even doing this? W…
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